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ChrisDee
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by WishingforBaby

Posted by Erica

I'll preface this by saying that some of these salaries do seen high for me, but superintendents negotiate their salaries with the board and it is based on performance. There's not a profit, so their salaries can't be comparable, but they do create areas where tax payers want to move in. I've worked in SDs where the superintendent has really been instrumental to the success.
QUOTE]

Let me preface by saying I agree some superintendent's salaries are a bit outrageous, however who's to blame for that?? I don't think enough people are focusing on this point....superintendent's salaries are negotiated by your board of ed - your elected residents! I realize people are outraged seeing these salaries however, what have you done to stop them from getting this high? Your local board of ed approved the salaries for the superintendent, administration, teachers and all other employees of the school district.

If you feel passionately about this topic, talk to your board of ed...they're the ones that approved these decisions.



As who is on these boards..........


IN MY DISTRICT IT IS MOSTLY TEACHERS. We have one police officer and one Dr.
SO.... Obviously they are going to approve these salaries. Most teachers do not live in the district they teach in, so these increases will not negatively effect them. Our Superintendent last year made $432,000+Chat Icon TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS. Oh and at this meeting the assist super told us how they are revamping the math program because our district was about 44% behind the state average for mathChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Bravo, Great Job, Let's pay you more money.

ETA: I am in Comsewogue SD, not the best, not the worst reputation. I pay just about $8,000 in taxes for my 3 bed raised ranch.

sidenote: Our old Superintentent retired with a one time windfall payment of over $750,000. They changes the whole system because of this. IT IS CRIMINAL IMO. This is why we are broke, huge salaries for the higher ups and giant pensions.

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Posted 3/3/11 8:01 AM
 
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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

I stink at quoting people, but you DO NOT have to be an educator to be a board member.

Board members are elected too. So if you don't like the decisions being made in your school district don't vote for them. Chat Icon

It all trickles down to us. We elect the board members who negotiate with the unions to decide salary scales.

I personally don't feel it is the governors place to cap a salary. I think it sets a dangerous precedent. JMO

Posted 3/3/11 8:11 AM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by firsttimer

I stink at quoting people, but you DO NOT have to be an educator to be a board member.

Board members are elected too. So if you don't like the decisions being made in your school district don't vote for them. Chat Icon

It all trickles down to us. We elect the board members who negotiate with the unions to decide salary scales.

I personally don't feel it is the governors place to cap a salary. I think it sets a dangerous precedent. JMO



WOW, I am shocked that our superintendent gave us false info. But to be honest with you, I did not like anyone that was running for the board. Just like when I voted for the president, I felt like I chose the lesser of 2 evils. I happen to be a pretty involved parent, I attend these meeting. However, you and I both know that I am in the minority and can do little to effect change.

Posted 3/3/11 8:51 AM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by melbalalala

Posted by morgie124

While that is true since only 6% of the list are public schools it still means that LI does not have some of the best school in the nation.



I'm so glad people are saying this now... whenever I see people justify ridiculously high teacher/admin salaries on LI with this I Chat Icon

Yes, the schools are very good.. but top in the nation? Not so much..



Okay, I know this is not the point of the post but I can't help wondering how people do not understand how good Long Island public schools are. Let me give you the statistics since you are all referring to Newsweeks top high school list. There are 1623 schools on that list. ONLY 6% are PUBLIC high schools - the rest are private. So that means that roughly 97 schools on the list are public. I just went thru and counted - there are 50 public high schools from long island on that list. That means more than HALF of the public schools in the ENTIRE country that made that list are on Long Island. I am well aware that this might not be the best way to judge schools - however, if you think that using this report to say that Long Island doesn't have some of the best schools - there is something VERY WRONG with your logic.

Posted 3/3/11 9:59 AM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by ChrisDee

Posted by firsttimer

I stink at quoting people, but you DO NOT have to be an educator to be a board member.

Board members are elected too. So if you don't like the decisions being made in your school district don't vote for them. Chat Icon

It all trickles down to us. We elect the board members who negotiate with the unions to decide salary scales.

I personally don't feel it is the governors place to cap a salary. I think it sets a dangerous precedent. JMO



WOW, I am shocked that our superintendent gave us false info. But to be honest with you, I did not like anyone that was running for the board. Just like when I voted for the president, I felt like I chose the lesser of 2 evils. I happen to be a pretty involved parent, I attend these meeting. However, you and I both know that I am in the minority and can do little to effect change.




She is right - most of BOE members are not teachers or related to education at all!

If you are an involved parent, get your name out there in the PTA circuit and I bet you will be able to make a good run to be a board member.

Posted 3/3/11 11:21 AM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

I am not necessarily opposed to this, but it makes me wonder if we'll see caps for other admins and principals (and eventually teachers) as well. For example, I was looking at one district's info and saw that a principal made about $145k. If that's in a district that caps at $165k, for example, what incentive is there to move up? Why not keep the easier job that does not pay that much less? I know it's not about money, but it seems like people think being a sup't is easy (not from here, from other places) when I am sure it is not. If teacher salaries and admin salaries are going to continue to rise, why try to advance? I realize it's not about money, but there is something about being in your field's top job and seeing lots of people under you make more or close to it for less responsibility, that might be demoralizing.

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Posted 3/3/11 8:53 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

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Yes but the tax payers are not paying the inventor of silly bands his salary?? KWIM. I think the greed running rampant within the education system is intolerable and I am glad Cuomo has the balls to address it. It is clearly broken and needs to be fixed. JMHO


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Posted 3/3/11 9:11 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by ChrisDee

Posted by WishingforBaby

Posted by Erica

I'll preface this by saying that some of these salaries do seen high for me, but superintendents negotiate their salaries with the board and it is based on performance. There's not a profit, so their salaries can't be comparable, but they do create areas where tax payers want to move in. I've worked in SDs where the superintendent has really been instrumental to the success.
QUOTE]

Let me preface by saying I agree some superintendent's salaries are a bit outrageous, however who's to blame for that?? I don't think enough people are focusing on this point....superintendent's salaries are negotiated by your board of ed - your elected residents! I realize people are outraged seeing these salaries however, what have you done to stop them from getting this high? Your local board of ed approved the salaries for the superintendent, administration, teachers and all other employees of the school district.

If you feel passionately about this topic, talk to your board of ed...they're the ones that approved these decisions.



As who is on these boards..........


YOU GOT IT! TEACHERS
Correct me if I am wrong but do you not have to be a teacher to be on the board of ed? At our budget meeting the other night, our super gave this info. SO.... Obviously they are going to approve these salaries. Most teachers do not live in the district they teach in, so these increases will not negatively effect them. Our Superintendent last year made $432,000+Chat Icon TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS. Oh and at this meeting the assist super told us how they are revamping the math program because our district was about 44% behind the state average for mathChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Bravo, Great Job, Let's pay you more money.

ETA: I am in Comsewogue SD, not the best, not the worst reputation. I pay just about $8,000 in taxes for my 3 bed raised ranch.

sidenote: Our old Superintentent retired with a one time windfall payment of over $750,000. They changes the whole system because of this. IT IS CRIMINAL IMO. This is why we are broke, huge salaries for the higher ups and giant pensions.



No teachers are not on the board of education. YOU as a taxpayer elect people to represent you. On the board of education where I teach, I do not believe that any of the board members are teachers. Several of them are lawyers. My cousin is a board member in a school district upstate. He is in no way a teacher and as a teacher, I would never want him to run my school district. As much as I love him, the only reason he ran for the BOE is because he wanted more pull for his children's interests.

Posted 3/3/11 9:23 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by Jacksmommy

Posted by ChrisDee

Posted by WishingforBaby

Posted by Erica

I'll preface this by saying that some of these salaries do seen high for me, but superintendents negotiate their salaries with the board and it is based on performance. There's not a profit, so their salaries can't be comparable, but they do create areas where tax payers want to move in. I've worked in SDs where the superintendent has really been instrumental to the success.
QUOTE]

Let me preface by saying I agree some superintendent's salaries are a bit outrageous, however who's to blame for that?? I don't think enough people are focusing on this point....superintendent's salaries are negotiated by your board of ed - your elected residents! I realize people are outraged seeing these salaries however, what have you done to stop them from getting this high? Your local board of ed approved the salaries for the superintendent, administration, teachers and all other employees of the school district.

If you feel passionately about this topic, talk to your board of ed...they're the ones that approved these decisions.



As who is on these boards..........


YOU GOT IT! TEACHERS
Correct me if I am wrong but do you not have to be a teacher to be on the board of ed? At our budget meeting the other night, our super gave this info. SO.... Obviously they are going to approve these salaries. Most teachers do not live in the district they teach in, so these increases will not negatively effect them. Our Superintendent last year made $432,000+Chat Icon TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS. Oh and at this meeting the assist super told us how they are revamping the math program because our district was about 44% behind the state average for mathChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Bravo, Great Job, Let's pay you more money.

ETA: I am in Comsewogue SD, not the best, not the worst reputation. I pay just about $8,000 in taxes for my 3 bed raised ranch.

sidenote: Our old Superintentent retired with a one time windfall payment of over $750,000. They changes the whole system because of this. IT IS CRIMINAL IMO. This is why we are broke, huge salaries for the higher ups and giant pensions.



No teachers are not on the board of education. YOU as a taxpayer elect people to represent you. On the board of education where I teach, I do not believe that any of the board members are teachers. Several of them are lawyers. My cousin is a board member in a school district upstate. He is in no way a teacher and as a teacher, I would never want him to run my school district. As much as I love him, the only reason he ran for the BOE is because he wanted more pull for his children's interests.



And just like with political interests. . . if you don't like it . . .start a change. Go out and run for a board position, be an active member in your PTA, go to board meetings every month.

Posted 3/3/11 9:25 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by Jacksmommy

Posted by Jacksmommy

Posted by ChrisDee

Posted by WishingforBaby

Posted by Erica

I'll preface this by saying that some of these salaries do seen high for me, but superintendents negotiate their salaries with the board and it is based on performance. There's not a profit, so their salaries can't be comparable, but they do create areas where tax payers want to move in. I've worked in SDs where the superintendent has really been instrumental to the success.
QUOTE]

Let me preface by saying I agree some superintendent's salaries are a bit outrageous, however who's to blame for that?? I don't think enough people are focusing on this point....superintendent's salaries are negotiated by your board of ed - your elected residents! I realize people are outraged seeing these salaries however, what have you done to stop them from getting this high? Your local board of ed approved the salaries for the superintendent, administration, teachers and all other employees of the school district.

If you feel passionately about this topic, talk to your board of ed...they're the ones that approved these decisions.



As who is on these boards..........


YOU GOT IT! TEACHERS
Correct me if I am wrong but do you not have to be a teacher to be on the board of ed? At our budget meeting the other night, our super gave this info. SO.... Obviously they are going to approve these salaries. Most teachers do not live in the district they teach in, so these increases will not negatively effect them. Our Superintendent last year made $432,000+Chat Icon TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS. Oh and at this meeting the assist super told us how they are revamping the math program because our district was about 44% behind the state average for mathChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Bravo, Great Job, Let's pay you more money.

ETA: I am in Comsewogue SD, not the best, not the worst reputation. I pay just about $8,000 in taxes for my 3 bed raised ranch.

sidenote: Our old Superintentent retired with a one time windfall payment of over $750,000. They changes the whole system because of this. IT IS CRIMINAL IMO. This is why we are broke, huge salaries for the higher ups and giant pensions.



No teachers are not on the board of education. YOU as a taxpayer elect people to represent you. On the board of education where I teach, I do not believe that any of the board members are teachers. Several of them are lawyers. My cousin is a board member in a school district upstate. He is in no way a teacher and as a teacher, I would never want him to run my school district. As much as I love him, the only reason he ran for the BOE is because he wanted more pull for his children's interests.



And just like with political interests. . . if you don't like it . . .start a change. Go out and run for a board position, be an active member in your PTA, go to board meetings every month.



I do go to the meeting and after emailing our Super. I found out for sure that our BOE actually has a few educators(not nec. from our district) and a police officer and a retired Dr. Maybe we are the only one. I do not think I am qualified to be on the board but I DO ATTEND AND I DO VOTE! I am NOT the type of person to run my mouth and do nothing about it. I have a 4th grader and that school is my 2nd home!

Message edited 3/3/2011 11:07:50 PM.

Posted 3/3/11 10:58 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by ChrisDee

As who is on these boards..........

YOU GOT IT! TEACHERS
Correct me if I am wrong but do you not have to be a teacher to be on the board of ed?



I am sorry, but I think you must have misunderstood what the Superintendent said.

You CANNOT be on the Board of Ed unless you 1) live in the district and 2) are elected by your community. If there are teachers on the board, it is because they fulfill those two requirements. So, no...it's not the teachers' faults that the Superintendent's salaries were approved.

In my district, NONE of the board members are teachers.




Posted 3/4/11 5:43 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

how did this get blamed on teachers too?

Posted 3/4/11 5:55 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by kgs11

how did this get blamed on teachers too?



I feel like, lately, it all is Chat Icon

Posted 3/4/11 6:12 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog

Posted by kgs11

how did this get blamed on teachers too?



I feel like, lately, it all is Chat Icon



It got blamed on teachers because someone had written that the Board of Ed is made up of teachers that don't live in the district and are approving Sup't salaries, which is absolutely not true.

We're blamed for everything now....Chat Icon

Posted 3/4/11 6:16 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by WishingforBaby

Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog

Posted by kgs11

how did this get blamed on teachers too?



I feel like, lately, it all is Chat Icon



It got blamed on teachers because someone had written that the Board of Ed is made up of teachers that don't live in the district and are approving Sup't salaries, which is absolutely not true.

We're blamed for everything now....Chat Icon



damn you teachers!!
it's ALL your fault!! Don't you know that?
Even global warming!!! Tsunami's... that's the teachers too!! Earthquakes.... it's those darn teachers again!!!!

tsk tsk. can't you do anything right??

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Posted 3/4/11 6:52 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by MrsKS

Posted by WishingforBaby

Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog

Posted by kgs11

how did this get blamed on teachers too?



I feel like, lately, it all is Chat Icon



It got blamed on teachers because someone had written that the Board of Ed is made up of teachers that don't live in the district and are approving Sup't salaries, which is absolutely not true.

We're blamed for everything now....Chat Icon



damn you teachers!!
it's ALL your fault!! Don't you know that?
Even global warming!!! Tsunami's... that's the teachers too!! Earthquakes.... it's those darn teachers again!!!!

tsk tsk. can't you do anything right??



I guess since George Bush is now a private citizen we get the blame for everything nowChat Icon We are public enemy #!!

Posted 3/4/11 7:18 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by WishingforBaby

Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog

Posted by kgs11

how did this get blamed on teachers too?



I feel like, lately, it all is Chat Icon



It got blamed on teachers because someone had written that the Board of Ed is made up of teachers that don't live in the district and are approving Sup't salaries, which is absolutely not true.

We're blamed for everything now....Chat Icon



I corrected myself if you continued to read. Our BOE is made up of mostly teachers, a police officer and a doctor. I found out after contacting the Super. He claims he mis-spoke. I made an error. It happens.

Posted 3/4/11 7:27 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by beautyq115

Posted by MrsKS

Posted by WishingforBaby

Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog

Posted by kgs11

how did this get blamed on teachers too?



I feel like, lately, it all is Chat Icon



It got blamed on teachers because someone had written that the Board of Ed is made up of teachers that don't live in the district and are approving Sup't salaries, which is absolutely not true.

We're blamed for everything now....Chat Icon



damn you teachers!!
it's ALL your fault!! Don't you know that?
Even global warming!!! Tsunami's... that's the teachers too!! Earthquakes.... it's those darn teachers again!!!!

tsk tsk. can't you do anything right??



I guess since George Bush is now a private citizen we get the blame for everything nowChat Icon We are public enemy #!!



So instead of reading that I corrected myself, My super MIS-SPOKE! We are going to turn this into LIF teacher martyr syndrome again. I think teachers are paid fairly and most do a great job. My friends that are teachers LOVE their job and feel lucky to have it and sooo happy they chose it. My experience with my 10 year old's teachers has been wonderful. However a lot(not all) of the teachers on LIF seem to have such an issue with feeling attacked. Those handful of teachers only seem to reply to the negative comments and never are greatful to the tons of positive comments about teachers? I know I have said lots of great things about teachers. Those do not get any comments. Hmmmmm???

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Posted 3/4/11 7:35 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by MrsKS

Posted by WishingforBaby

Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog

Posted by kgs11

how did this get blamed on teachers too?



I feel like, lately, it all is Chat Icon



It got blamed on teachers because someone had written that the Board of Ed is made up of teachers that don't live in the district and are approving Sup't salaries, which is absolutely not true.

We're blamed for everything now....Chat Icon



damn you teachers!!
it's ALL your fault!! Don't you know that?
Even global warming!!! Tsunami's... that's the teachers too!! Earthquakes.... it's those darn teachers again!!!!

tsk tsk. can't you do anything right??



Have you seen these 2 links from The Daily Show???

HYSTERICAL!!!!

Everything IS our fault....
Message for Teachers

Ideas for reform....
Angry Curds

Posted 3/4/11 7:36 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

I have NOT read the replies but can tell by the number of them that Cuomo has been successful in his effort to distract from the real issue. That being his refusal to maintain the millionaires tax which would solve the financial crisis. I wish I was a millionaire and could buy politicians on both sides of the aisle!

Posted 3/4/11 10:12 PM
 

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Posted by Angelo26

I have NOT read the replies but can tell by the number of them that Cuomo has been successful in his effort to distract from the real issue. That being his refusal to maintain the millionaires tax which would solve the financial crisis. I wish I was a millionaire and could buy politicians on both sides of the aisle!



It is hard for people to know about this when they read media operated and controlled by Bloomberg.

He has made educators the bad guy.

Honestly if I read only the Post, for example, I would think we WERE the enemy.

It is a sick, twisted situation. How your local teacher, cop and fireman became the bad guy is amazing. It shows that in some ways Bloomberg is brillant.

Posted 3/4/11 10:24 PM
 

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Posted by DiamondGirl

Posted by Angelo26

I have NOT read the replies but can tell by the number of them that Cuomo has been successful in his effort to distract from the real issue. That being his refusal to maintain the millionaires tax which would solve the financial crisis. I wish I was a millionaire and could buy politicians on both sides of the aisle!



It is hard for people to know about this when they read media operated and controlled by Bloomberg.

He has made educators the bad guy.

Honestly if I read only the Post, for example, I would think we WERE the enemy.

It is a sick, twisted situation. How your local teacher, cop and fireman became the bad guy is amazing. It shows that in some ways Bloomberg is brillant.



It's not for nothing he's a multi-millionaire.

You wonder if he really is evil enough to be sabotaging education so people stay stupid and keep voting against their own best interests. Just a thought.

Posted 3/4/11 10:31 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by lululu

Posted by melbalalala

Posted by morgie124

While that is true since only 6% of the list are public schools it still means that LI does not have some of the best school in the nation.



I'm so glad people are saying this now... whenever I see people justify ridiculously high teacher/admin salaries on LI with this I Chat Icon

Yes, the schools are very good.. but top in the nation? Not so much..



Okay, I know this is not the point of the post but I can't help wondering how people do not understand how good Long Island public schools are. Let me give you the statistics since you are all referring to Newsweeks top high school list. There are 1623 schools on that list. ONLY 6% are PUBLIC high schools - the rest are private. So that means that roughly 97 schools on the list are public. I just went thru and counted - there are 50 public high schools from long island on that list. That means more than HALF of the public schools in the ENTIRE country that made that list are on Long Island. I am well aware that this might not be the best way to judge schools - however, if you think that using this report to say that Long Island doesn't have some of the best schools - there is something VERY WRONG with your logic.



I think you are misreading the results. It is not that there are only 6% of the list are public schools but rather the total amount of the list 1,600 schools represents only 6% of the nations public schools. Or, to put it another way, this list represent the top 6% of the nations public schools.

I do think that long island has good public schools but honestly I think it has little to do with the superintendents. Long islands school districts are VERY segregated both racially and socioeconimically. The top school districts on LI are also, for the most part, the wealthiest. I think it becomes a self-fulfilling prohecy. You have districts where the kids have every economic opportunity, involved parents, SAT coaching, etc. In my opinion, THAT is why the school districts on LI end up being so great - they are essentially in a vacuum.

Posted 3/4/11 11:02 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by stickydust

Posted by lululu

Posted by melbalalala

Posted by morgie124

While that is true since only 6% of the list are public schools it still means that LI does not have some of the best school in the nation.



I'm so glad people are saying this now... whenever I see people justify ridiculously high teacher/admin salaries on LI with this I Chat Icon

Yes, the schools are very good.. but top in the nation? Not so much..



Okay, I know this is not the point of the post but I can't help wondering how people do not understand how good Long Island public schools are. Let me give you the statistics since you are all referring to Newsweeks top high school list. There are 1623 schools on that list. ONLY 6% are PUBLIC high schools - the rest are private. So that means that roughly 97 schools on the list are public. I just went thru and counted - there are 50 public high schools from long island on that list. That means more than HALF of the public schools in the ENTIRE country that made that list are on Long Island. I am well aware that this might not be the best way to judge schools - however, if you think that using this report to say that Long Island doesn't have some of the best schools - there is something VERY WRONG with your logic.



I think you are misreading the results. It is not that there are only 6% of the list are public schools but rather the total amount of the list 1,600 schools represents only 6% of the nations public schools. Or, to put it another way, this list represent the top 6% of the nations public schools.

I do think that long island has good public schools but honestly I think it has little to do with the superintendents. Long islands school districts are VERY segregated both racially and socioeconimically. The top school districts on LI are also, for the most part, the wealthiest. I think it becomes a self-fulfilling prohecy. You have districts where the kids have every economic opportunity, involved parents, SAT coaching, etc. In my opinion, THAT is why the school districts on LI end up being so great - they are essentially in a vacuum.



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BINGO- if the school is filled with all the above- they are set UP to succeed already...

Posted 3/4/11 11:07 PM
 

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Re: Cuomo wants to cap Superintendent Salaries..

Posted by Angelo26

I have NOT read the replies but can tell by the number of them that Cuomo has been successful in his effort to distract from the real issue. That being his refusal to maintain the millionaires tax which would solve the financial crisis. I wish I was a millionaire and could buy politicians on both sides of the aisle!



I posted this on another thread, but it is relevant here.

"At the height of the fiscal crisis two years ago, staring down the barrel of a $20 billion budget gap, the state imposed an income-tax surcharge on New Yorkers earning more than $200,000 a year -- and called it a "millionaire's tax." I voted for it as a temporary solution, expecting that the economy would have turned the corner by now. But a tax isn't temporary if we keep re-authorizing it. Unfortunately, some of my colleagues want to do just that -- arguing that we should extend the tax before it expires this year.
If the surcharge were truly a millionaire's tax, maybe it would be worth discussing. But since when do hard-working two-income middle-class families count as millionaires?

And the surcharge hasn't even raised the revenue it was supposed to -- falling well short of the projected $4 billion a year." - Micah Kellner

I feel that the teachers on this board and in real life do a great job of painting a picture that makes it seem like cutting the amount of money that education gets will greatly impact the job they do and the way kids turn out. I find that many non-teachers I talk to are tired of paying out the nose when we are making less money now then a few years ago. Things need to change and passing the buck is not the way. We are all tested and challenged to do a great job with less resources in this economy, why is that not acceptable in the education department?

Message edited 3/4/2011 11:45:15 PM.

Posted 3/4/11 11:45 PM
 
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