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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by CookiePuss
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The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by CookiePuss
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Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
I don't follow the numbers everyday anymore but they never will give you the breakdown of people who are vaccinated or unvaccinated in the hospital or died.
I can tell you from the people I know, the unvaccinated who got it didn't have it any worse than the vaccinated. I know that is not always true but many people are hypochondriacs and will run to the hospital for anything so those people are taking up beds that could be used for others.
using the people you know as a basis is limited and bias and does not help to show a real picture.
Also skewed since hospitals are not admitting those that don’t require admission. So they aren’t taking up beds by running to the hospital as you claim.
Oh please. People have been running to hospitals forever for things that are not needed and overwhelming them. I used to have a neighbor that was constantly calling for an ambulance. Once for a toothache. No lie, can't make this stuff up.
Many ER's are packed on Sunday nights for people not wanting to go to work and need something to say they can have the day off. Saw it with my own eyes and while this was not in NY, it happens all over.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by NervousNell
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Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Well if it's evolving into something that feels like allergies or a cold and lasts a day or 2 than disappears than that's a good thing
Exactly. That is the goal that this virus is nothing more than a cold and that is what it appears to be with MOST cases now.
The goal???? How is this a goal? And what exactly have you don’t to achieve this goal?
Since viruses never go away, yes, the goal is to have them become milder as time goes on so that you can live with them and walk amongst them and live a normal life. Like we did prior to 2020.
The goal can't be to have Covid not exist. Because that will never happen.
Even the vaccines don't stop the spread or stop people from getting it
So isn't the goal for it to be manageable?
If not, than what IS the goal?
Clearly the goal is to continue living in fear and cause panic and mass hysteria every Covid/Flu season.
I'm starting to see that this is truly the goal.
Why, I don't know.
Signed,
The captain.
The signature. Dead.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
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Sash
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by ali120206
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
My friend who is a nurse is so sick, she couldn’t go to urgent care around us because all of them are so over booked with people getting tested due to exposure. She had to go to Newark and is still waiting 5 days for her PCR results because they are so backed up. She also had to wait hours to get antibiotics. It’s really ridiculous. She is actually sick and can’t get help or the results she needs because of the hysterics.
She also said her doctors said the flu is horrible this year, crazy bad strain. She thinks she has the flu because the rapid was negative but she wants to confirm.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by Sash
Posted by ali120206
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
My friend who is a nurse is so sick, she couldn’t go to urgent care around us because all of them are so over booked with people getting tested due to exposure. She had to go to Newark and is still waiting 5 days for her PCR results because they are so backed up. She also had to wait hours to get antibiotics. It’s really ridiculous. She is actually sick and can’t get help or the results she needs because of the hysterics.
She also said her doctors said the flu is horrible this year, crazy bad strain. She thinks she has the flu because the rapid was negative but she wants to confirm.
Totally agree, many are in hysterics.
My DH's friend is a nurse in a local hospital, and they are overwhelmed with Covid patients(NOT bed or respirator)
They are just sick and want that anti-viral, so they can feel better quicker.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by ali120206
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
Sad as I am sure many don't even need to test.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by Sash
Posted by ali120206
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
My friend who is a nurse is so sick, she couldn’t go to urgent care around us because all of them are so over booked with people getting tested due to exposure. She had to go to Newark and is still waiting 5 days for her PCR results because they are so backed up. She also had to wait hours to get antibiotics. It’s really ridiculous. She is actually sick and can’t get help or the results she needs because of the hysterics.
She also said her doctors said the flu is horrible this year, crazy bad strain. She thinks she has the flu because the rapid was negative but she wants to confirm.
THIS is the reason WE care because it could always be one of us that is in the situation. People need to chill out and stop listening to the hysteria around them.
People are starting to drive alone with masks on again and I saw a man riding his bike past my house this morning with a mask on. I truly want to know, and not being snarky WHY you find the need to wear a mask when you are all alone and not going to be near anyone. I truly think so many people are so misinformed and that is why everyone is in panic mode and hysterical.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by Diane
Posted by Sash
Posted by ali120206
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
My friend who is a nurse is so sick, she couldn’t go to urgent care around us because all of them are so over booked with people getting tested due to exposure. She had to go to Newark and is still waiting 5 days for her PCR results because they are so backed up. She also had to wait hours to get antibiotics. It’s really ridiculous. She is actually sick and can’t get help or the results she needs because of the hysterics.
She also said her doctors said the flu is horrible this year, crazy bad strain. She thinks she has the flu because the rapid was negative but she wants to confirm.
Totally agree, many are in hysterics.
My DH's friend is a nurse in a local hospital, and they are overwhelmed with Covid patients(NOT bed or respirator)
They are just sick and want that anti-viral, so they can feel better quicker.
Always an easy fix people want and they are clogging up the doctors offices and hospitals. STAY.HOME.
Again, didn't they just say you can go back to your normal life after 5 days with covid now?
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Re: Covid at home test kits
I think if we did a 2 week lock down of the media we'd definitely flatten that curve
Just saying
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Diane
Posted by Sash
Posted by ali120206
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
My friend who is a nurse is so sick, she couldn’t go to urgent care around us because all of them are so over booked with people getting tested due to exposure. She had to go to Newark and is still waiting 5 days for her PCR results because they are so backed up. She also had to wait hours to get antibiotics. It’s really ridiculous. She is actually sick and can’t get help or the results she needs because of the hysterics.
She also said her doctors said the flu is horrible this year, crazy bad strain. She thinks she has the flu because the rapid was negative but she wants to confirm.
Totally agree, many are in hysterics.
My DH's friend is a nurse in a local hospital, and they are overwhelmed with Covid patients(NOT bed or respirator)
They are just sick and want that anti-viral, so they can feel better quicker.
Always an easy fix people want and they are clogging up the doctors offices and hospitals. STAY.HOME.
Again, didn't they just say you can go back to your normal life after 5 days with covid now?
If asymptomatic. If symptoms persist, you need to continue to isolate.
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CookiePuss
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by NervousNell
I think if we did a 2 week lock down of the media we'd definitely flatten that curve
Just saying
That is not a bad idea.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by NervousNell
I think if we did a 2 week lock down of the media we'd definitely flatten that curve
Just saying
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by CookiePuss
You can absolutely find numbers of those who have died and the status of their vaccination.
Link
I am sure you can find more detailed information if you research it.
U do realized that many vaccinated people who have only received one shot or have not yet gotten the booster can be considered unvaccinated, right?
Yes I do. The link I provided even breaks that down in the data.
Reason why saying the unvaccinated are overwhelming hospitals is silly since according to those terms, a whole lot of people fall under that category. And there’s also the misconception that if u don’t get the latest booster, u’ll end up in the hospital or death. 
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| Posted 12/28/21 2:22 PM |
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The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
My friend who is a nurse is so sick, she couldn’t go to urgent care around us because all of them are so over booked with people getting tested due to exposure. She had to go to Newark and is still waiting 5 days for her PCR results because they are so backed up. She also had to wait hours to get antibiotics. It’s really ridiculous. She is actually sick and can’t get help or the results she needs because of the hysterics.
She also said her doctors said the flu is horrible this year, crazy bad strain. She thinks she has the flu because the rapid was negative but she wants to confirm.
Totally agree, many are in hysterics.
My DH's friend is a nurse in a local hospital, and they are overwhelmed with Covid patients(NOT bed or respirator)
They are just sick and want that anti-viral, so they can feel better quicker.
Always an easy fix people want and they are clogging up the doctors offices and hospitals. STAY.HOME.
Again, didn't they just say you can go back to your normal life after 5 days with covid now?
If asymptomatic. If symptoms persist, you need to continue to isolate.
Yes but it seems from here people are getting tested with symptoms and they have disappeared by the next day.
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| Posted 12/28/21 2:22 PM |
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You can absolutely find numbers of those who have died and the status of their vaccination.
Link
I am sure you can find more detailed information if you research it.
U do realized that many vaccinated people who have only received one shot or have not yet gotten the booster can be considered unvaccinated, right?
Yes I do. The link I provided even breaks that down in the data.
Reason why saying the unvaccinated are overwhelming hospitals is silly since according to those terms, a whole lot of people fall under that category. And there’s also the misconception that if u don’t get the latest booster, u’ll end up in the hospital or death.
I want to know if people will not be considered fully vaccinated unless they have the booster after so many months? Then it will be the 4th shot and not the booster and then the 5th..on and on.
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| Posted 12/28/21 2:24 PM |
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Naturalmama
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If you are fully vaccinated and you are not experiencing symptoms on day 5, you no longer have to isolate, even if you had symptoms earlier. This is what I was told when I was diagnosed.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
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I think if we did a 2 week lock down of the media we'd definitely flatten that curve
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| Posted 12/28/21 2:27 PM |
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I don't think anyone needs to be tested if they aren't showing symptoms, at least not now when so many are sick and actually need the tests. But I don't agree with not getting tested if you have minor symptoms. I woke up yesterday with a headache and stuffy nose. Was able to get tested at city md- positive. I'm happy I know because now I was able to cancel my kids playdates this week and keep them home and away from others. If I assumed it was just a stuffy nose, I would have had kids in my house this week and exposed them.
I wake up almost every day with these symptoms.
I guess I should have tested. I can't do lines and mass pandemonium though.
But if this is Covid, I'll take it.
Feels a lot like my allergies.
Exactly, not everything is Covid and why would anyone think twice to go and get tested with a runny nose? That could be anything and this is why we have such long lines at testing centers. Treat it like a cold and stay away from others and cancel plans you might have and wait it out a few days.
I honestly think her test was wrong as she feels 100% today. Something doesn’t sound right.
My test was not wrong. My friend had COVID two weeks ago. Had a sore throat which made her get tested, she was positive. The next day her sore throat was gone and it never came back. It happens.
No other symptoms but a sore throat?
Most people have a fever, no sense of taste and/or smell, IME.
Not something normal and it goes away but you have covid.
I would be testing again if this happened to me.
The Omicron variant has different symptoms.
I tested positive on Christmas and had a PCR test on Sunday that confirmed my positive. I had a cough for 2 days and now only head congestion. I’m vaccinated so this has been super mild. No fever, no loss of taste or smell.
So basically a cold. Something that people can avoid others and stay home and treat and then go on their merry way like it used to be, 2 years ago.
Instead of overwhelming doctors offices and hospitals.
Most people are not overwhelming hospitals. I went to urgent care because I could - I had travel plans and didn’t 100 percent trust the at home kit.
Drs offices and urgent cares are definitely overwhelmed. I tested both of my kids this week as they have a bad Cold and I got the last appts calling the second they opened. They are squeezing in more people than usual… i need recs for cough meds for DS and I can’t get through because the phones are ringing off the hook. Urgent cares are turning people away as they are overwhelmed with people testing. Places are running out of tests. I would assume people are going to the hospital as they can’t receive medical care elsewhere.
If you are sick, stay home. Regardless of whether it’s Covid or not
Why is the state setting up drive through testing sites at Jones Beach and Stonybrook again?
if it's that bad why not?
Can't afford to?
Not enough tax money?
Urgent cares should not be used as testing centers
I don’t think there are enough tests available to. But yes, the larger sites should be reopened. They are reopening the Westchester County Center site but they don’t have a lot of availability.
They have to because healthcare resources in westchester cannot support the number of people they need to serve.
Having lived in both westchester and LI I can tell you that there are WAY more urgent cares on LI. In fact, I was sick with a sinus infection weeks ago and had to drive to mineola to go to an urgent care.
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| Posted 12/28/21 2:38 PM |
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The “I got tested to travel” people make me laugh. Thanks for doing your part, buddy. You know what would be even better? NOT TRAVELING UNNECESSARILY DURING A PANDEMIC.
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| Posted 12/28/21 2:39 PM |
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The “I got tested to travel” people make me laugh. Thanks for doing your part, buddy. You know what would be even better? NOT TRAVELING UNNECESSARILY DURING A PANDEMIC.
So people should just stop their entire life and not travel anyplace? You do realize that some need to do so for work also, not just for pleasure.
The cruise industry will go under if they don't continue sailing and with that you need to test. I guess you are ok with all these people losing their jobs and countries losing tons of money from tourists. Just so they are not part of the few that NEED to test.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
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The “I got tested to travel” people make me laugh. Thanks for doing your part, buddy. You know what would be even better? NOT TRAVELING UNNECESSARILY DURING A PANDEMIC.
So people should just stop their entire life and not travel anyplace? You do realize that some need to do so for work also, not just for pleasure.
The cruise industry will go under if they don't continue sailing and with that you need to test. I guess you are ok with all these people losing their jobs and countries losing tons of money from tourists. Just so they are not part of the few that NEED to test.
I meant the people who act like they are doing the greatest favor to humanity by testing constantly before they leave and acting like they are just dripping with caution. If they were that cautious, they wouldn’t be heading to the Maldives with their friends.
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| Posted 12/28/21 2:51 PM |
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People are definitely hoarding tests just like all the shelves are bare again. Can't tell you how many people posted their tests results on fb with their holiday gathering pics.
What we need now is a snowstorm frenzy to help Home Depot unload their entire stock of shovels.
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