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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by LittleDiva
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The more I sit and think about minimum wage the more I wonder how it will help.
As someone suggested raising it to $20 would just in turn raise the cost of doing business and in turn raise prices on everything. Thus putting the person struggling to make ends meet on minimum wage in the same position. I’m fact, I would think initially that many small business would have to let go of employees and bigger companies would just replace them with automated computers. Now unemployment is up. I just don’t get how raising the minimum wage sooo high is beneficial. Yes, it should be raised but not too much.
Some jobs don’t warrant $20 an hour. Sorry, I don’t see it. There will be no drive to work your way up to be a CEO one day.
Exactly and while I would love to stand at the door at Walmart and greet people, that job does not warrant $20/hour. Why wouldn’t someone with a lot of responsibilities want to stay at their job when they could do that instead?
And to add, that’s going to take those type of jobs away from people with special needs. Teens. Etc....
I’d sign up to be a greeter at Walmart for $20 an hour! Sorry I stole your job that you needed but I don’t want to bust my butt for $5 more an hour.
Exactly. What are you going to get in trouble for, missing saying hi to one customer?
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by MC09
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https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-compensation-2018/
CEO compensation has grown 940% since 1978
Typical worker compensation has risen only 12% during that time
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I think we should be focusing on the top tier salaries, not the bottom tier salaries....
Very true but many deserve what they make.
Why is it when this discussion comes up that the CEO deserves to make $50M salary, but the guy who cleans the toilets and stocks the shelves and packs the online orders deserves to eat out of a dumpster? Can the CEO not live a nice life on $5M or is that slumming it? The difference sure would go a long way towards keeping the lower workers who keep the company afloat from splitting a cardboard box under a bridge with 4 roommates and needing public assistance just to eat.
And why does all the money for increased wages have to come from the consumer? The consumer already paid the wages for the company's employees. It's just that like vultures the top tier management pulled up to the buffet first and ate it all and left the scraps for the lower workers and then passed the buck to keep their employees from starving on to the tax payer. Then they turned around and bought the politicians to eat the whole public assistance system. You can't have it both ways.
If the CEO can't survive on $5M salary then maybe he/she needs to buy fewer Starbucks lattes and pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
ITA some salaries are just insane but then on the other hand, many of us run out the door at 5pm while people who might make a lot more are working many hours later, maybe leaving their families for extended periods of time. Do you think a 15 year old flipping fries should make the same as a CEO or even just a manager who is working many more hours and have more responsibilities? Where is the line then how much we all make? Just like all kids get trophies. No one gets the best this or improved that. No one wants competition anymore and that is why motivation goes down as why should I put in more time at work when Joey at Wendy’s is going to make the same amount of money as me who for the majority of teens (as I see some have had to support their families) are working for some spending money and some savings?
So, you're saying that everyone will just want to work at McDonald's flipping burgers being yelled at by the public for thinking extra pickles meant 8 slices instead of 12 because where's the incentive now that minimum wage would be so lucrative what with it being brought to a livable standard over the course of 6 years for the first time since 1970whatever? Interesting theory.
By the way there are a lot, like A LOT of workers putting in a ton of hours with very little or nothing to show for it. At least the minimum wage earner is getting paid OT for the extra hours worked. But there are a lot, again A LOT, of salaried employees working round the clock without additional compensation. It's a fantasy to think that everyone working 80 hours a week at their corporate job will somehow be rewarded for that work. Do you know how many people slaving away at their desk are rewarded? By getting EVEN MORE work piled on for a job well done. "You've done such an excellent job here. Here's 75 more accounts to manage. I'm confident you can handle it. What's that? You haven't had a raise in 4 years? Well make it 5. It's just not in the budget. We've had to make a lot of cut backs. Actually, come to think of it, you could do with a little less pay." And no amount of travel or hours worked or high stakes decision making is worth the ceo making 1000x more than the company's employees.
Has Clark Griswald taught you nothing about how corporate bonuses work?
I have gone years without a raise and more worked piled on me so experienced with that.
Sorry but getting yelled at for extra pickles is not the same as getting yelled for possibly loosing a huge account that could make or break a company.
The extra pickles was just in reference to your argument that suddenly flipping fast food burgers would become a highly sought-after job.
Ok how about the greeter at Walmart? I would seek that out if they made a few dollars less than I do working after hours to not be overwhelmed. Leave the job at the job and not check emails. Making sure customers are happy and not looking to go elsewhere. Making minimal mistakes or your boss who is getting reemed out from their boss reems you out. Yeah I would seek that job then to make the same.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by LittleDiva
I believe in giving them the tools they need to succeed....education, training in a trade, childcare so they can go to school or work until they get their feet on the ground.
By voting for people that demonize poor people and want to cut all services?
And I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but $7 is garbage in this day and age. A box of cereal and a pint of ice cream costs more than that. This barely covers a gallon of milk and a carton of eggs.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by MC09
Posted by LittleDiva
I believe in giving them the tools they need to succeed....education, training in a trade, childcare so they can go to school or work until they get their feet on the ground.
By voting for people that demonize poor people and want to cut all services?
And I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but $7 is garbage in this day and age. A box of cereal and a pint of ice cream costs more than that. This barely covers a gallon of milk and a carton of eggs.
Places that have $7 minimum wage also have cheap housing and taxes and many other things. Food stores though, I agree are not much less.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Some of these comments are   
Trust me when I say, NOBODY is satisfied making minimum wage and even if they increase it, it will still always be $hit money compared to other jobs and careers. Even with an increase MOST people will always continue to strive for more and better because whether we like it or not, money makes the world go round.
Also, keeping others down and in poverty hurts ALL OF US. Guess where your tax money is going when people cannot afford to keep a roof over their head or food on the table? However, give people a reasonable wage and they will be better able to take care of themselves without having to tap the system. You can't have it both ways, you can't complain about funding social programs but in the next breath also complain about giving people even a semblance of a livable wage.
As for working hard, I mean seriously? This idea that nobody deserves better because you have worked hard yourself is insanity. My DH busts his a$$ every day at work as did I when I was teaching BUT I would not for one second begrudge anyone a boost if it helps them to improve their situation. Why would I? An increase isn't about me, it won't affect me, it doesn't upset me BUT for someone else who is struggling to get by it could be the difference between keeping their heads above water or going on welfare.
We need to consider more than ourselves, we should want better for all because that is how society functions at its best. Take a look at how many other countries operate compared to here, they look out for ALL of their citizens and they are consistently ranked among the happiest places to live in the world.
Americans are dong it ALL wrong. We are consumed by the rat race, we are selfish and completely lacking in empathy for our fellow neighbor.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by MC09
Posted by LittleDiva
I believe in giving them the tools they need to succeed....education, training in a trade, childcare so they can go to school or work until they get their feet on the ground.
By voting for people that demonize poor people and want to cut all services?
And I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but $7 is garbage in this day and age. A box of cereal and a pint of ice cream costs more than that. This barely covers a gallon of milk and a carton of eggs.
Places that have $7 minimum wage also have cheap housing and taxes and many other things. Food stores though, I agree are not much less.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE $7/HOUR IS A LIVABLE WAGE,
I do not care where you are or how cheap the COL is, $7 is a joke! You can NOT support a mortgage, car, food, clothing, medical bills, electricity, water, kids etc on $7/hr.
I am horrified that anyone would think this is an acceptable amount of money to pay anyone!
Message edited 1/15/2021 7:19:04 PM.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by Hofstra26
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Trust me when I say, NOBODY is satisfied making minimum wage and even if they increase it, it will still always be $hit money compared to other jobs and careers. Even with an increase MOST people will always continue to strive for more and better because whether we like it or not, money makes the world go round.
Also, keeping others down and in poverty hurts ALL OF US. Guess where your tax money is going when people cannot afford to keep a roof over their head or food on the table? However, give people a reasonable wage and they will be better able to take care of themselves without having to tap the system. You can't have it both ways, you can't complain about funding social programs but in the next breath also complain about giving people even a semblance of a livable wage.
As for working hard, I mean seriously? This idea that nobody deserves better because you have worked hard yourself is insanity. My DH busts his a$$ every day at work as did I when I was teaching BUT I would not for one second begrudge anyone a boost if it helps them to improve their situation. Why would I? An increase isn't about me, it won't affect me, it doesn't upset me BUT for someone else who is struggling to get by it could be the difference between keeping their heads above water or going on welfare.
We need to consider more than ourselves, we should want better for all because that is how society functions at its best. Take a look at how many other countries operate compared to here, they look out for ALL of their citizens and they are consistently ranked among the happiest places to live in the world.
Americans are dong it ALL wrong. We are consumed by the rat race, we are selfish and completely lacking in empathy for our fellow neighbor.
It might affect you and that is what people are saying. They are not just thinking of themselves but all who it might affect.
Peoples hours might be cut or even their jobs. Places will find ways to hire computers and robots to do the work for almost free.
It is always great to help people as we have struggled many many times and I know how my husband grew up. I also know that not all people are willing to put in the work to make that salary.
We all need motivation and many times it is money and that money can also help others out, not just ourselves.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by MC09
Posted by LittleDiva
I believe in giving them the tools they need to succeed....education, training in a trade, childcare so they can go to school or work until they get their feet on the ground.
By voting for people that demonize poor people and want to cut all services?
And I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but $7 is garbage in this day and age. A box of cereal and a pint of ice cream costs more than that. This barely covers a gallon of milk and a carton of eggs.
Places that have $7 minimum wage also have cheap housing and taxes and many other things. Food stores though, I agree are not much less.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE $7/HOUR IS A LIVABLE WAGE,
I do not care where you are or how cheap the COL is, $7 is a joke! You can NOT support a mortgage, car, food, clothing, medical bills, electricity, water, kids etc on $7/hr.
I am horrified that anyone would think this is an acceptable amount of money to pay anyone!
I agree but simply stating the COL is less in these places.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
There are many articles like this online but this is just a snippet of why this country is failing. It shows why what is suppose to the "the greatest country on earth" abysmally lags behind so many other nations in happiness and quality of life.
What America Can Learn From Happy Countries
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by MC09
Posted by LittleDiva
I believe in giving them the tools they need to succeed....education, training in a trade, childcare so they can go to school or work until they get their feet on the ground.
By voting for people that demonize poor people and want to cut all services?
And I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but $7 is garbage in this day and age. A box of cereal and a pint of ice cream costs more than that. This barely covers a gallon of milk and a carton of eggs.
Places that have $7 minimum wage also have cheap housing and taxes and many other things. Food stores though, I agree are not much less.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE $7/HOUR IS A LIVABLE WAGE,
I do not care where you are or how cheap the COL is, $7 is a joke! You can NOT support a mortgage, car, food, clothing, medical bills, electricity, water, kids etc on $7/hr.
I am horrified that anyone would think this is an acceptable amount of money to pay anyone!
I agree but simply stating the COL is less in these places.
But the COL doesn't matter when the pay is so low that someone cannot afford to remotely survive even in the cheapest of places.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Some of these comments are
Trust me when I say, NOBODY is satisfied making minimum wage and even if they increase it, it will still always be $hit money compared to other jobs and careers. Even with an increase MOST people will always continue to strive for more and better because whether we like it or not, money makes the world go round.
Also, keeping others down and in poverty hurts ALL OF US. Guess where your tax money is going when people cannot afford to keep a roof over their head or food on the table? However, give people a reasonable wage and they will be better able to take care of themselves without having to tap the system. You can't have it both ways, you can't complain about funding social programs but in the next breath also complain about giving people even a semblance of a livable wage.
As for working hard, I mean seriously? This idea that nobody deserves better because you have worked hard yourself is insanity. My DH busts his a$$ every day at work as did I when I was teaching BUT I would not for one second begrudge anyone a boost if it helps them to improve their situation. Why would I? An increase isn't about me, it won't affect me, it doesn't upset me BUT for someone else who is struggling to get by it could be the difference between keeping their heads above water or going on welfare.
We need to consider more than ourselves, we should want better for all because that is how society functions at its best. Take a look at how many other countries operate compared to here, they look out for ALL of their citizens and they are consistently ranked among the happiest places to live in the world.
Americans are dong it ALL wrong. We are consumed by the rat race, we are selfish and completely lacking in empathy for our fellow neighbor.
It might affect you and that is what people are saying. They are not just thinking of themselves but all who it might affect.
Peoples hours might be cut or even their jobs. Places will find ways to hire computers and robots to do the work for almost free.
It is always great to help people as we have struggled many many times and I know how my husband grew up. I also know that not all people are willing to put in the work to make that salary.
We all need motivation and many times it is money and that money can also help others out, not just ourselves.
Increasing minimum wage will not affect your quality of life or situation but it may drastically improve someone else's.
As for the rest, automation and computers have been changing the workforce for decades now.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
If this article is true, Biden is a real piece of $hit
https://themighty.com/2021/01/biden-subminimum-wage-disability/?utm_medium=Autism_Page&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR30FOYEQ_WSiXAbvq8DKR_I-c26gw6l4gFoBBbzYQ_amizXvAXo9onEcLQ#Echobox=1610750018
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by MC09
Posted by LittleDiva
I believe in giving them the tools they need to succeed....education, training in a trade, childcare so they can go to school or work until they get their feet on the ground.
By voting for people that demonize poor people and want to cut all services?
And I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but $7 is garbage in this day and age. A box of cereal and a pint of ice cream costs more than that. This barely covers a gallon of milk and a carton of eggs.
Places that have $7 minimum wage also have cheap housing and taxes and many other things. Food stores though, I agree are not much less.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE $7/HOUR IS A LIVABLE WAGE,
I do not care where you are or how cheap the COL is, $7 is a joke! You can NOT support a mortgage, car, food, clothing, medical bills, electricity, water, kids etc on $7/hr.
I am horrified that anyone would think this is an acceptable amount of money to pay anyone!
I agree but simply stating the COL is less in these places.
But the COL doesn't matter when the pay is so low that someone cannot afford to remotely survive even in the cheapest of places.
Well I can tell you a friend who lives in a low COL area works at a job that was paying entry people $14,000/year. Yes $14,000. They had many apply and make that much. Many people here in this COL area make minimum wage and have homes and families and yes, they might not be living in huge homes and have all brand new cars and multiple vacations a year but surprise, they are able to afford living.
I do agree and will always agree that minimum wage should be more but not to the point that others will lose their jobs or their hours get cut as then the increase won’t help anyone.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by Diane
If this article is true, Biden is a real piece of $hit
https://themighty.com/2021/01/biden-subminimum-wage-disability/?utm_medium=Autism_Page&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR30FOYEQ_WSiXAbvq8DKR_I-c26gw6l4gFoBBbzYQ_amizXvAXo9onEcLQ#Echobox=1610750018
You didn't actually read this, did you????
Disability activists have been fighting to end subminimum wage for years, Biden is pushing for EQUAL pay for all regardless of a disability or not.
"On Thursday, Bloomberg Law reported that U.S. President-elect Joe Biden will seek to increase the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour for all workers, including workers with disabilities. Currently, due to Section 14(c) under the Fair Labor Standards Act, companies can apply to pay disabled workers less than the current minimum wage of $7.25 per hour."
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by MC09
Posted by LittleDiva
I believe in giving them the tools they need to succeed....education, training in a trade, childcare so they can go to school or work until they get their feet on the ground.
By voting for people that demonize poor people and want to cut all services?
And I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but $7 is garbage in this day and age. A box of cereal and a pint of ice cream costs more than that. This barely covers a gallon of milk and a carton of eggs.
Places that have $7 minimum wage also have cheap housing and taxes and many other things. Food stores though, I agree are not much less.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE $7/HOUR IS A LIVABLE WAGE,
I do not care where you are or how cheap the COL is, $7 is a joke! You can NOT support a mortgage, car, food, clothing, medical bills, electricity, water, kids etc on $7/hr.
I am horrified that anyone would think this is an acceptable amount of money to pay anyone!
I agree but simply stating the COL is less in these places.
But the COL doesn't matter when the pay is so low that someone cannot afford to remotely survive even in the cheapest of places.
Well I can tell you a friend who lives in a low COL area works at a job that was paying entry people $14,000/year. Yes $14,000. They had many apply and make that much. Many people here in this COL area make minimum wage and have homes and families and yes, they might not be living in huge homes and have all brand new cars and multiple vacations a year but surprise, they are able to afford living.
I do agree and will always agree that minimum wage should be more but not to the point that others will lose their jobs or their hours get cut as then the increase won’t help anyone.
Why do you keep insisting that an increase will automatically cause job loss or hours cut?
Can you provide statistics on where that has been shown to be the case because I have never heard of that being an issue with increases?
Most minimum wage increases are minimal at best and barely keep up with inflation so I believe your assessment of the situation and what it means for others in the workforce is inaccurate. That seems to be YOUR fear but that isn't the reality of the situation.
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Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Diane
If this article is true, Biden is a real piece of $hit
https://themighty.com/2021/01/biden-subminimum-wage-disability/?utm_medium=Autism_Page&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR30FOYEQ_WSiXAbvq8DKR_I-c26gw6l4gFoBBbzYQ_amizXvAXo9onEcLQ#Echobox=1610750018
You didn't actually read this, did you????
Disability activists have been fighting to end subminimum wage for years, Biden is pushing for EQUAL pay for all regardless of a disability or not.
"On Thursday, Bloomberg Law reported that U.S. President-elect Joe Biden will seek to increase the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour for all workers, including workers with disabilities. Currently, due to Section 14(c) under the Fair Labor Standards Act, companies can apply to pay disabled workers less than the current minimum wage of $7.25 per hour."
Will they be cutting their disability payments also then?
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by MC09
Posted by LittleDiva
I believe in giving them the tools they need to succeed....education, training in a trade, childcare so they can go to school or work until they get their feet on the ground.
By voting for people that demonize poor people and want to cut all services?
And I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but $7 is garbage in this day and age. A box of cereal and a pint of ice cream costs more than that. This barely covers a gallon of milk and a carton of eggs.
Places that have $7 minimum wage also have cheap housing and taxes and many other things. Food stores though, I agree are not much less.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE $7/HOUR IS A LIVABLE WAGE,
I do not care where you are or how cheap the COL is, $7 is a joke! You can NOT support a mortgage, car, food, clothing, medical bills, electricity, water, kids etc on $7/hr.
I am horrified that anyone would think this is an acceptable amount of money to pay anyone!
I agree but simply stating the COL is less in these places.
But the COL doesn't matter when the pay is so low that someone cannot afford to remotely survive even in the cheapest of places.
Well I can tell you a friend who lives in a low COL area works at a job that was paying entry people $14,000/year. Yes $14,000. They had many apply and make that much. Many people here in this COL area make minimum wage and have homes and families and yes, they might not be living in huge homes and have all brand new cars and multiple vacations a year but surprise, they are able to afford living.
I do agree and will always agree that minimum wage should be more but not to the point that others will lose their jobs or their hours get cut as then the increase won’t help anyone.
Why do you keep insisting that an increase will automatically cause job loss or hours cut?
Can you provide statistics on where that has been shown to be the case because I have never heard of that being an issue with increases?
Most minimum wage increases are minimal at best and barely keep up with inflation so I believe your assessment of the situation and what it means for others in the workforce is inaccurate. That seems to be YOUR fear but that isn't the reality of the situation.
Do you honestly think many companies can increase pay by $8 per person? That is $320 for full time per person. Not a few dollars.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Diane
If this article is true, Biden is a real piece of $hit
https://themighty.com/2021/01/biden-subminimum-wage-disability/?utm_medium=Autism_Page&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR30FOYEQ_WSiXAbvq8DKR_I-c26gw6l4gFoBBbzYQ_amizXvAXo9onEcLQ#Echobox=1610750018
You didn't actually read this, did you????
Disability activists have been fighting to end subminimum wage for years, Biden is pushing for EQUAL pay for all regardless of a disability or not.
"On Thursday, Bloomberg Law reported that U.S. President-elect Joe Biden will seek to increase the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour for all workers, including workers with disabilities. Currently, due to Section 14(c) under the Fair Labor Standards Act, companies can apply to pay disabled workers less than the current minimum wage of $7.25 per hour."
Will they be cutting their disability payments also then?
They aren't cutting anything. This is a GOOD thing for those with disabilities.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by MC09
Posted by LittleDiva
I believe in giving them the tools they need to succeed....education, training in a trade, childcare so they can go to school or work until they get their feet on the ground.
By voting for people that demonize poor people and want to cut all services?
And I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but $7 is garbage in this day and age. A box of cereal and a pint of ice cream costs more than that. This barely covers a gallon of milk and a carton of eggs.
Places that have $7 minimum wage also have cheap housing and taxes and many other things. Food stores though, I agree are not much less.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE $7/HOUR IS A LIVABLE WAGE,
I do not care where you are or how cheap the COL is, $7 is a joke! You can NOT support a mortgage, car, food, clothing, medical bills, electricity, water, kids etc on $7/hr.
I am horrified that anyone would think this is an acceptable amount of money to pay anyone!
I agree but simply stating the COL is less in these places.
But the COL doesn't matter when the pay is so low that someone cannot afford to remotely survive even in the cheapest of places.
Well I can tell you a friend who lives in a low COL area works at a job that was paying entry people $14,000/year. Yes $14,000. They had many apply and make that much. Many people here in this COL area make minimum wage and have homes and families and yes, they might not be living in huge homes and have all brand new cars and multiple vacations a year but surprise, they are able to afford living.
I do agree and will always agree that minimum wage should be more but not to the point that others will lose their jobs or their hours get cut as then the increase won’t help anyone.
Why do you keep insisting that an increase will automatically cause job loss or hours cut?
Can you provide statistics on where that has been shown to be the case because I have never heard of that being an issue with increases?
Most minimum wage increases are minimal at best and barely keep up with inflation so I believe your assessment of the situation and what it means for others in the workforce is inaccurate. That seems to be YOUR fear but that isn't the reality of the situation.
Do you honestly think many companies can increase pay by $8 per person? That is $320 for full time per person. Not a few dollars.
MOST companies, especially large ones won't even feel it. Smaller companies like mom and pops have such small staffs to begin with that it likely wouldn't hurt that much.
I can see you aren't for an increase, that is fine. I just disagree, I think this benefits us all as a country. It does more good than not.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
I hope he can get it done!!!!
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by Diane
I hope he can get it done!!!!
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Diane
If this article is true, Biden is a real piece of $hit
https://themighty.com/2021/01/biden-subminimum-wage-disability/?utm_medium=Autism_Page&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR30FOYEQ_WSiXAbvq8DKR_I-c26gw6l4gFoBBbzYQ_amizXvAXo9onEcLQ#Echobox=1610750018
You didn't actually read this, did you????
Disability activists have been fighting to end subminimum wage for years, Biden is pushing for EQUAL pay for all regardless of a disability or not.
"On Thursday, Bloomberg Law reported that U.S. President-elect Joe Biden will seek to increase the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour for all workers, including workers with disabilities. Currently, due to Section 14(c) under the Fair Labor Standards Act, companies can apply to pay disabled workers less than the current minimum wage of $7.25 per hour."
Will they be cutting their disability payments also then?
They aren't cutting anything. This is a GOOD thing for those with disabilities.
Interesting so someone who is considered to have a disability, has a job, will get $15/hour, plus disability pay but will get charged less for rent because of the disability?
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by MC09
Posted by LittleDiva
I believe in giving them the tools they need to succeed....education, training in a trade, childcare so they can go to school or work until they get their feet on the ground.
By voting for people that demonize poor people and want to cut all services?
And I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but $7 is garbage in this day and age. A box of cereal and a pint of ice cream costs more than that. This barely covers a gallon of milk and a carton of eggs.
Places that have $7 minimum wage also have cheap housing and taxes and many other things. Food stores though, I agree are not much less.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE $7/HOUR IS A LIVABLE WAGE,
I do not care where you are or how cheap the COL is, $7 is a joke! You can NOT support a mortgage, car, food, clothing, medical bills, electricity, water, kids etc on $7/hr.
I am horrified that anyone would think this is an acceptable amount of money to pay anyone!
I agree but simply stating the COL is less in these places.
But the COL doesn't matter when the pay is so low that someone cannot afford to remotely survive even in the cheapest of places.
Well I can tell you a friend who lives in a low COL area works at a job that was paying entry people $14,000/year. Yes $14,000. They had many apply and make that much. Many people here in this COL area make minimum wage and have homes and families and yes, they might not be living in huge homes and have all brand new cars and multiple vacations a year but surprise, they are able to afford living.
I do agree and will always agree that minimum wage should be more but not to the point that others will lose their jobs or their hours get cut as then the increase won’t help anyone.
Why do you keep insisting that an increase will automatically cause job loss or hours cut?
Can you provide statistics on where that has been shown to be the case because I have never heard of that being an issue with increases?
Most minimum wage increases are minimal at best and barely keep up with inflation so I believe your assessment of the situation and what it means for others in the workforce is inaccurate. That seems to be YOUR fear but that isn't the reality of the situation.
Do you honestly think many companies can increase pay by $8 per person? That is $320 for full time per person. Not a few dollars.
MOST companies, especially large ones won't even feel it. Smaller companies like mom and pops have such small staffs to begin with that it likely wouldn't hurt that much.
I can see you aren't for an increase, that is fine. I just disagree, I think this benefits us all as a country. It does more good than not.
I am absolutely for an increase. You don’t see the obstacles. Even at my own job they had to cut pay for some people when they weren’t doing so well. It happens as not all businesses will be able to afford salaries and overhead, that might go up to pay for salaries elsewhere.
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by Diane
I hope he can get it done!!!!
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Hofstra26
Love to Bake!
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Re: Biden's 1.9 Trillion Dollar Plan
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by MC09
Posted by LittleDiva
I believe in giving them the tools they need to succeed....education, training in a trade, childcare so they can go to school or work until they get their feet on the ground.
By voting for people that demonize poor people and want to cut all services?
And I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but $7 is garbage in this day and age. A box of cereal and a pint of ice cream costs more than that. This barely covers a gallon of milk and a carton of eggs.
Places that have $7 minimum wage also have cheap housing and taxes and many other things. Food stores though, I agree are not much less.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE $7/HOUR IS A LIVABLE WAGE,
I do not care where you are or how cheap the COL is, $7 is a joke! You can NOT support a mortgage, car, food, clothing, medical bills, electricity, water, kids etc on $7/hr.
I am horrified that anyone would think this is an acceptable amount of money to pay anyone!
I agree but simply stating the COL is less in these places.
But the COL doesn't matter when the pay is so low that someone cannot afford to remotely survive even in the cheapest of places.
Well I can tell you a friend who lives in a low COL area works at a job that was paying entry people $14,000/year. Yes $14,000. They had many apply and make that much. Many people here in this COL area make minimum wage and have homes and families and yes, they might not be living in huge homes and have all brand new cars and multiple vacations a year but surprise, they are able to afford living.
I do agree and will always agree that minimum wage should be more but not to the point that others will lose their jobs or their hours get cut as then the increase won’t help anyone.
Why do you keep insisting that an increase will automatically cause job loss or hours cut?
Can you provide statistics on where that has been shown to be the case because I have never heard of that being an issue with increases?
Most minimum wage increases are minimal at best and barely keep up with inflation so I believe your assessment of the situation and what it means for others in the workforce is inaccurate. That seems to be YOUR fear but that isn't the reality of the situation.
Do you honestly think many companies can increase pay by $8 per person? That is $320 for full time per person. Not a few dollars.
MOST companies, especially large ones won't even feel it. Smaller companies like mom and pops have such small staffs to begin with that it likely wouldn't hurt that much.
I can see you aren't for an increase, that is fine. I just disagree, I think this benefits us all as a country. It does more good than not.
I am absolutely for an increase. You don’t see the obstacles. Even at my own job they had to cut pay for some people when they weren’t doing so well. It happens as not all businesses will be able to afford salaries and overhead, that might go up to pay for salaries elsewhere.
I don't think the obstacles are as worrisome as you seem to think.
We shall see. 
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