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lululu
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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by LuckyStar

The latest IHME model puts NY at May 25-May 31.

http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updates

Yes, I know this is not definitive.



That would be great if that turns out to be accurate...

Posted 4/22/20 11:56 AM
 
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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

I'll follow the rules.
We are fortunate to not have to deal with children, so we only have to entertain ourselves.

Posted 4/22/20 12:55 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by alli3131

I could do it. I’m working from home and while I don’t love being the teacher to my son I’d do it for the greater good. And as for staying home,I’m fine with it. We have plenty to do around the house that will never end!!



I feel the same. I work from home anyway, my days and the same as before.

they are merging more into on another. I'm not a a shopper never felt the need to aimlessly wander around target, Walmart or buy on amazon eyc, just to buy stuff.

I buy for need, struggle to buy for want items so this reduces some stress for me with regard to needing to buy new cloth since I put on wt. I have an excuse not to go shopping LOL


Posted 4/22/20 2:16 PM
 

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How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

I will follow it as long as they say. This makes me sound like a loser but I honestly don’t have a ton of friends locally and my family lives over three hours away so our life hasn’t changed much with the exception of working from home and having to teach my son. I do miss the aimless Target runs and bringing my son to the grocery store as he loves going with me.

I will be sad if the pool and parks do not open this summer but we’ll have fun at home.

Posted 4/22/20 2:25 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

It will stink, but if we need to stay home longer, we will. I may buy an above ground pool for the summer though.

Posted 4/22/20 2:39 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by LSP2005

It will stink, but if we need to stay home longer, we will. I may buy an above ground pool for the summer though.



can we all come over and play in your pool LOL

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Posted 4/22/20 2:44 PM
 

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How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

I honestly can’t take it much anymore. My parents asked if they could come by this past Sunday and bring my kids ice cream. I was hesitant but I couldn’t say no. We hadn’t seen them since March 7th. We stood around in the backyard got about an hour and kept our distance. No hugs or kisses. It was weird. We have been home and have not had any close physical contact with anyone outside of our home. My husband went to the grocery store a couple times with masks and gloves and washed up when he got home.

Posted 4/22/20 4:53 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

I have left the house once since March 16, and that was to go to a grocery store on March 20 (this is except for my neighborhood walks I should add). I am divorced so about the 40 percent of the time I’m alone, the other 60 it’s just me with my small children. One of them is disabled and hasn’t been to his special needs school in weeks or receiving therapy bc he, like many severe kids, is NOT a candidate for teletherapy. He is regressing terribly. I don’t know what I will do if his summer session doesn’t open. I haven’t seen my boyfriend of two years since March 1. I have gone all in with distancing, no cheating or pushing it at all, but I am done May 15. No, I’m not going to restaurants, concerts, etc, but I’ll put my mask on and hope for the best. I have to resume my child’s therapies and I need adult companionship, of any kind. I miss my mom and my sister. I wish this was a hearthy Netflix vacation for me, but it isnt.

Posted 4/22/20 5:08 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by Hopefulmama

I have left the house once since March 16, and that was to go to a grocery store on March 20 (this is except for my neighborhood walks I should add). I am divorced so about the 40 percent of the time I’m alone, the other 60 it’s just me with my small children. One of them is disabled and hasn’t been to his special needs school in weeks or receiving therapy bc he, like many severe kids, is NOT a candidate for teletherapy. He is regressing terribly. I don’t know what I will do if his summer session doesn’t open. I haven’t seen my boyfriend of two years since March 1. I have gone all in with distancing, no cheating or pushing it at all, but I am done May 15. No, I’m not going to restaurants, concerts, etc, but I’ll put my mask on and hope for the best. I have to resume my child’s therapies and I need adult companionship, of any kind. I miss my mom and my sister. I wish this was a hearthy Netflix vacation for me, but it isnt.



I think we will see more and more of this around that time. People are done with having the carrot dangled and constantly pulled back.
There won't be many places to go but i see more families meeting up, etc, than now

Posted 4/22/20 5:10 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by Hopefulmama

I have left the house once since March 16, and that was to go to a grocery store on March 20 (this is except for my neighborhood walks I should add). I am divorced so about the 40 percent of the time I’m alone, the other 60 it’s just me with my small children. One of them is disabled and hasn’t been to his special needs school in weeks or receiving therapy bc he, like many severe kids, is NOT a candidate for teletherapy. He is regressing terribly. I don’t know what I will do if his summer session doesn’t open. I haven’t seen my boyfriend of two years since March 1. I have gone all in with distancing, no cheating or pushing it at all, but I am done May 15. No, I’m not going to restaurants, concerts, etc, but I’ll put my mask on and hope for the best. I have to resume my child’s therapies and I need adult companionship, of any kind. I miss my mom and my sister. I wish this was a hearthy Netflix vacation for me, but it isnt.



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Posted 4/22/20 5:13 PM
 

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How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

If restaurants, bars, movie theaters open May 15th, I will not feel comfortable going just yet. But, yes, at that point I will start meeting friends for walks, seeing my family, and allow my kids to ride bikes with the kids next door- who have also been 100% home since March 15th, like we have. I will keep a safe distance and have a mask on- but my mental health is rapidly declining. My almost 9 yr old told me tonight he would rather get the virus than have to live like this. I am not willing to do this for 18 months. It is not because I don't care about the greater good, it is not because I want to go get my hair & nails done. It is because I am on the brink of not mentally surviving this.
All I want is for my kids to go to school, and us to be able to safely see some people outside of our immediate family. I don't need shopping malls, restaurants, nail salons, hair salons, movie theaters, vacations, or museums. My son's mental health matters to me. I tell him why we are doing this, I tell him why we have to. He gets it, but he is about to be 9. He can't comprehend it the way adults can. He cries himself to sleep every single night. Has lost interest in eating and face timing with family & friends.
We can't reopen now. I know that. But my family will not survive much longer than another 2 months or so. My own house is collapsing under the weight of this. Mental illness is not easy. Not everyone is savoring every second with their children, making homemade baked treats, and loving homeschooling. Some people are barely surviving each day.

Posted 4/22/20 6:05 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by Hopefulmama

I have left the house once since March 16, and that was to go to a grocery store on March 20 (this is except for my neighborhood walks I should add). I am divorced so about the 40 percent of the time I’m alone, the other 60 it’s just me with my small children. One of them is disabled and hasn’t been to his special needs school in weeks or receiving therapy bc he, like many severe kids, is NOT a candidate for teletherapy. He is regressing terribly. I don’t know what I will do if his summer session doesn’t open. I haven’t seen my boyfriend of two years since March 1. I have gone all in with distancing, no cheating or pushing it at all, but I am done May 15. No, I’m not going to restaurants, concerts, etc, but I’ll put my mask on and hope for the best. I have to resume my child’s therapies and I need adult companionship, of any kind. I miss my mom and my sister. I wish this was a hearthy Netflix vacation for me, but it isnt.



In the same boat with my son. I’m praying at this point that at least summer session is open.

Posted 4/22/20 6:15 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by Hopefulmama

I have left the house once since March 16, and that was to go to a grocery store on March 20 (this is except for my neighborhood walks I should add). I am divorced so about the 40 percent of the time I’m alone, the other 60 it’s just me with my small children. One of them is disabled and hasn’t been to his special needs school in weeks or receiving therapy bc he, like many severe kids, is NOT a candidate for teletherapy. He is regressing terribly. I don’t know what I will do if his summer session doesn’t open. I haven’t seen my boyfriend of two years since March 1. I have gone all in with distancing, no cheating or pushing it at all, but I am done May 15. No, I’m not going to restaurants, concerts, etc, but I’ll put my mask on and hope for the best. I have to resume my child’s therapies and I need adult companionship, of any kind. I miss my mom and my sister. I wish this was a hearthy Netflix vacation for me, but it isnt.



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Posted 4/22/20 6:18 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by Naturalmama

If restaurants, bars, movie theaters open May 15th, I will not feel comfortable going just yet. But, yes, at that point I will start meeting friends for walks, seeing my family, and allow my kids to ride bikes with the kids next door- who have also been 100% home since March 15th, like we have. I will keep a safe distance and have a mask on- but my mental health is rapidly declining. My almost 9 yr old told me tonight he would rather get the virus than have to live like this. I am not willing to do this for 18 months. It is not because I don't care about the greater good, it is not because I want to go get my hair & nails done. It is because I am on the brink of not mentally surviving this.
All I want is for my kids to go to school, and us to be able to safely see some people outside of our immediate family. I don't need shopping malls, restaurants, nail salons, hair salons, movie theaters, vacations, or museums. My son's mental health matters to me. I tell him why we are doing this, I tell him why we have to. He gets it, but he is about to be 9. He can't comprehend it the way adults can. He cries himself to sleep every single night. Has lost interest in eating and face timing with family & friends.
We can't reopen now. I know that. But my family will not survive much longer than another 2 months or so. My own house is collapsing under the weight of this. Mental illness is not easy. Not everyone is savoring every second with their children, making homemade baked treats, and loving homeschooling. Some people are barely surviving each day.



There comes a point, in a case like this, where you have to weigh the risks vs benefits. Like when you are prescribed a drug...there are side effects and risks, but if the benefits of taking it outweigh the risks, you take it.
As a low risk individual there is going to come a point where the benefits to my mental state of doing things like you describe outweigh the risks of the virus to me. That time is coming soon I feel

Message edited 4/22/2020 6:23:07 PM.

Posted 4/22/20 6:22 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by Naturalmama

If restaurants, bars, movie theaters open May 15th, I will not feel comfortable going just yet. But, yes, at that point I will start meeting friends for walks, seeing my family, and allow my kids to ride bikes with the kids next door- who have also been 100% home since March 15th, like we have. I will keep a safe distance and have a mask on- but my mental health is rapidly declining. My almost 9 yr old told me tonight he would rather get the virus than have to live like this. I am not willing to do this for 18 months. It is not because I don't care about the greater good, it is not because I want to go get my hair & nails done. It is because I am on the brink of not mentally surviving this.
All I want is for my kids to go to school, and us to be able to safely see some people outside of our immediate family. I don't need shopping malls, restaurants, nail salons, hair salons, movie theaters, vacations, or museums. My son's mental health matters to me. I tell him why we are doing this, I tell him why we have to. He gets it, but he is about to be 9. He can't comprehend it the way adults can. He cries himself to sleep every single night. Has lost interest in eating and face timing with family & friends.
We can't reopen now. I know that. But my family will not survive much longer than another 2 months or so. My own house is collapsing under the weight of this. Mental illness is not easy. Not everyone is savoring every second with their children, making homemade baked treats, and loving homeschooling. Some people are barely surviving each day.



Exactly. It’s not about urgently needing to get your hair done. It’s about understanding that not everyone lives in a utopian fairytale of steady paychecks, packed second freezers in the basement, supportive partners, neurotypical children, and backyards that may as well be playgrounds. Some people are isolating in tiny apartments and don’t want people who live in huge houses screaming at them to stay home. I had a telemedicine appointment with my sons physiatrist who is concerned that he is developing a contracture in his left foot. This would be devastating and would require orthopedic surgery and a long recovery. He is also at higher risk of an adverse outcome from anesthesia. I am going to have to resume his therapy and at that point I may as well be radioactive. I am terrified of Covid. Terrified. But I don’t have the LUXURY of putting my life on hold much longer. Good for you if you do. The sanctimony and unchecked privilege is insane.

Message edited 4/22/2020 10:00:08 PM.

Posted 4/22/20 9:55 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by Naturalmama

If restaurants, bars, movie theaters open May 15th, I will not feel comfortable going just yet. But, yes, at that point I will start meeting friends for walks, seeing my family, and allow my kids to ride bikes with the kids next door- who have also been 100% home since March 15th, like we have. I will keep a safe distance and have a mask on- but my mental health is rapidly declining. My almost 9 yr old told me tonight he would rather get the virus than have to live like this. I am not willing to do this for 18 months. It is not because I don't care about the greater good, it is not because I want to go get my hair & nails done. It is because I am on the brink of not mentally surviving this.
All I want is for my kids to go to school, and us to be able to safely see some people outside of our immediate family. I don't need shopping malls, restaurants, nail salons, hair salons, movie theaters, vacations, or museums. My son's mental health matters to me. I tell him why we are doing this, I tell him why we have to. He gets it, but he is about to be 9. He can't comprehend it the way adults can. He cries himself to sleep every single night. Has lost interest in eating and face timing with family & friends.
We can't reopen now. I know that. But my family will not survive much longer than another 2 months or so. My own house is collapsing under the weight of this. Mental illness is not easy. Not everyone is savoring every second with their children, making homemade baked treats, and loving homeschooling. Some people are barely surviving each day.



This exactly. I would rather take the chance than live like this another year. I just can't do it for that long. We will all crumble from depression, anxiety, economic strain, etc. And I just won't do it that long, because what kind of life is it then? Always living in fear of death from a virus that isn't a guaranteed death sentence?

Posted 4/22/20 10:21 PM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by Hopefulmama

Exactly. It’s not about urgently needing to get your hair done. It’s about understanding that not everyone lives in a utopian fairytale of steady paychecks, packed second freezers in the basement, supportive partners, neurotypical children, and backyards that may as well be playgrounds. Some people are isolating in tiny apartments and don’t want people who live in huge houses screaming at them to stay home. I had a telemedicine appointment with my sons physiatrist who is concerned that he is developing a contracture in his left foot. This would be devastating and would require orthopedic surgery and a long recovery. He is also at higher risk of an adverse outcome from anesthesia. I am going to have to resume his therapy and at that point I may as well be radioactive. I am terrified of Covid. Terrified. But I don’t have the LUXURY of putting my life on hold much longer. Good for you if you do. The sanctimony and unchecked privilege is insane.



Chat Icon I am with you. I am so tired of hearing how it is selfish to not want to be quarantined much longer.

Posted 4/22/20 10:23 PM
 

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Posted 4/23/20 5:19 AM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by Hopefulmama

Posted by Naturalmama

If restaurants, bars, movie theaters open May 15th, I will not feel comfortable going just yet. But, yes, at that point I will start meeting friends for walks, seeing my family, and allow my kids to ride bikes with the kids next door- who have also been 100% home since March 15th, like we have. I will keep a safe distance and have a mask on- but my mental health is rapidly declining. My almost 9 yr old told me tonight he would rather get the virus than have to live like this. I am not willing to do this for 18 months. It is not because I don't care about the greater good, it is not because I want to go get my hair & nails done. It is because I am on the brink of not mentally surviving this.
All I want is for my kids to go to school, and us to be able to safely see some people outside of our immediate family. I don't need shopping malls, restaurants, nail salons, hair salons, movie theaters, vacations, or museums. My son's mental health matters to me. I tell him why we are doing this, I tell him why we have to. He gets it, but he is about to be 9. He can't comprehend it the way adults can. He cries himself to sleep every single night. Has lost interest in eating and face timing with family & friends.
We can't reopen now. I know that. But my family will not survive much longer than another 2 months or so. My own house is collapsing under the weight of this. Mental illness is not easy. Not everyone is savoring every second with their children, making homemade baked treats, and loving homeschooling. Some people are barely surviving each day.



Exactly. It’s not about urgently needing to get your hair done. It’s about understanding that not everyone lives in a utopian fairytale of steady paychecks, packed second freezers in the basement, supportive partners, neurotypical children, and backyards that may as well be playgrounds. Some people are isolating in tiny apartments and don’t want people who live in huge houses screaming at them to stay home. I had a telemedicine appointment with my sons physiatrist who is concerned that he is developing a contracture in his left foot. This would be devastating and would require orthopedic surgery and a long recovery. He is also at higher risk of an adverse outcome from anesthesia. I am going to have to resume his therapy and at that point I may as well be radioactive. I am terrified of Covid. Terrified. But I don’t have the LUXURY of putting my life on hold much longer. Good for you if you do. The sanctimony and unchecked privilege is insane.



I am so sorry you are going through all of this. I know people who have lost loved ones. A friend of mine lost a friend last month, a cousin last week, and has another friend in ICU, but he did just come off the ventilator on Sunday and is making progress, so everyone is hopeful. I do get how serious this is. I also don't believe the media is making it into less than it is. Cuomo says every single day how horrible this is, and how reopening has to be extremely slow and calculated.
The news shows us the insides of hospitals & ICU's, both here in the US, and in Italy. The woman across the street is an ER nurse at a well respected LI hospital. If I am out in the front yard with my kids when she is coming home from work, she will update me. The loss of life beyond painful, horrific, and tragic. That is not lost on me. I do have hope because she has said that for the past week, the hospital strain has been easing, and less people are coming into the ER, less people are being intubated, and more people are recovering and being discharged. I cry daily for the loss of life. I am scared for my health, and the health of all those I care about.
But, guess what? 11 years ago, before I got married and had my children, I attempted suicide. My depression & anxiety is very, very real. I worked incredibly hard to get myself into a place where I enjoyed my life and did not want to die. People suffering in mental anguish, those with children who need extra attention & therapies that they are not receiving, who are not getting a paycheck, and when they go to food banks, there is no more food. Those who are ill with other ailments that are not being pushed to the side, children who are suffering depression from being closed off from school, their friends, their grandparents. Those who spent their whole lives building up a business, only to now have it possibly be gone forever.
People are suffering. From Covid, from having loved ones with Covid, and from a whole host of other things. I'm tired of those saying that if we really knew, we would happily sit in our homes if we really knew. No. I know. But that doesn't stop all of the other problems in the world from continuing as well.
There was a meme going around that said something to the effect of how easy this is- we can save lives by just sitting on our couch and binge watching Netflix. Um, no. Let's see how everyone would still be so happy to do this in 18 months...because, guess what? There would be no country to reopen. Homelessness, starvation, drug addiction, financial ruin, suicide...we will have eradicated Covid, but at what cost?
Sorry, vent over. I just can't take it anymore.

Posted 4/23/20 5:59 AM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

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Posted by Hopefulmama

Posted by Naturalmama

If restaurants, bars, movie theaters open May 15th, I will not feel comfortable going just yet. But, yes, at that point I will start meeting friends for walks, seeing my family, and allow my kids to ride bikes with the kids next door- who have also been 100% home since March 15th, like we have. I will keep a safe distance and have a mask on- but my mental health is rapidly declining. My almost 9 yr old told me tonight he would rather get the virus than have to live like this. I am not willing to do this for 18 months. It is not because I don't care about the greater good, it is not because I want to go get my hair & nails done. It is because I am on the brink of not mentally surviving this.
All I want is for my kids to go to school, and us to be able to safely see some people outside of our immediate family. I don't need shopping malls, restaurants, nail salons, hair salons, movie theaters, vacations, or museums. My son's mental health matters to me. I tell him why we are doing this, I tell him why we have to. He gets it, but he is about to be 9. He can't comprehend it the way adults can. He cries himself to sleep every single night. Has lost interest in eating and face timing with family & friends.
We can't reopen now. I know that. But my family will not survive much longer than another 2 months or so. My own house is collapsing under the weight of this. Mental illness is not easy. Not everyone is savoring every second with their children, making homemade baked treats, and loving homeschooling. Some people are barely surviving each day.



Exactly. It’s not about urgently needing to get your hair done. It’s about understanding that not everyone lives in a utopian fairytale of steady paychecks, packed second freezers in the basement, supportive partners, neurotypical children, and backyards that may as well be playgrounds. Some people are isolating in tiny apartments and don’t want people who live in huge houses screaming at them to stay home. I had a telemedicine appointment with my sons physiatrist who is concerned that he is developing a contracture in his left foot. This would be devastating and would require orthopedic surgery and a long recovery. He is also at higher risk of an adverse outcome from anesthesia. I am going to have to resume his therapy and at that point I may as well be radioactive. I am terrified of Covid. Terrified. But I don’t have the LUXURY of putting my life on hold much longer. Good for you if you do. The sanctimony and unchecked privilege is insane.



I am so sorry you are going through all of this. I know people who have lost loved ones. A friend of mine lost a friend last month, a cousin last week, and has another friend in ICU, but he did just come off the ventilator on Sunday and is making progress, so everyone is hopeful. I do get how serious this is. I also don't believe the media is making it into less than it is. Cuomo says every single day how horrible this is, and how reopening has to be extremely slow and calculated.
The news shows us the insides of hospitals & ICU's, both here in the US, and in Italy. The woman across the street is an ER nurse at a well respected LI hospital. If I am out in the front yard with my kids when she is coming home from work, she will update me. The loss of life beyond painful, horrific, and tragic. That is not lost on me. I do have hope because she has said that for the past week, the hospital strain has been easing, and less people are coming into the ER, less people are being intubated, and more people are recovering and being discharged. I cry daily for the loss of life. I am scared for my health, and the health of all those I care about.
But, guess what? 11 years ago, before I got married and had my children, I attempted suicide. My depression & anxiety is very, very real. I worked incredibly hard to get myself into a place where I enjoyed my life and did not want to die. People suffering in mental anguish, those with children who need extra attention & therapies that they are not receiving, who are not getting a paycheck, and when they go to food banks, there is no more food. Those who are ill with other ailments that are not being pushed to the side, children who are suffering depression from being closed off from school, their friends, their grandparents. Those who spent their whole lives building up a business, only to now have it possibly be gone forever.
People are suffering. From Covid, from having loved ones with Covid, and from a whole host of other things. I'm tired of those saying that if we really knew, we would happily sit in our homes if we really knew. No. I know. But that doesn't stop all of the other problems in the world from continuing as well.
There was a meme going around that said something to the effect of how easy this is- we can save lives by just sitting on our couch and binge watching Netflix. Um, no. Let's see how everyone would still be so happy to do this in 18 months...because, guess what? There would be no country to reopen. Homelessness, starvation, drug addiction, financial ruin, suicide...we will have eradicated Covid, but at what cost?
Sorry, vent over. I just can't take it anymore.



I agree with this word for word. I understand what is happening out there. And I do have somewhat of a privilege in that I have some work left, a decent savings for 6 months, working on getting my stimulus and unemployment, etc.

But 18 months is too long. It isn’t feasible for most of the population. I’m not really sure what will happen to me in 6 months’ time...

Posted 4/23/20 6:08 AM
 

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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

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Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by Hopefulmama

Posted by Naturalmama

If restaurants, bars, movie theaters open May 15th, I will not feel comfortable going just yet. But, yes, at that point I will start meeting friends for walks, seeing my family, and allow my kids to ride bikes with the kids next door- who have also been 100% home since March 15th, like we have. I will keep a safe distance and have a mask on- but my mental health is rapidly declining. My almost 9 yr old told me tonight he would rather get the virus than have to live like this. I am not willing to do this for 18 months. It is not because I don't care about the greater good, it is not because I want to go get my hair & nails done. It is because I am on the brink of not mentally surviving this.
All I want is for my kids to go to school, and us to be able to safely see some people outside of our immediate family. I don't need shopping malls, restaurants, nail salons, hair salons, movie theaters, vacations, or museums. My son's mental health matters to me. I tell him why we are doing this, I tell him why we have to. He gets it, but he is about to be 9. He can't comprehend it the way adults can. He cries himself to sleep every single night. Has lost interest in eating and face timing with family & friends.
We can't reopen now. I know that. But my family will not survive much longer than another 2 months or so. My own house is collapsing under the weight of this. Mental illness is not easy. Not everyone is savoring every second with their children, making homemade baked treats, and loving homeschooling. Some people are barely surviving each day.



Exactly. It’s not about urgently needing to get your hair done. It’s about understanding that not everyone lives in a utopian fairytale of steady paychecks, packed second freezers in the basement, supportive partners, neurotypical children, and backyards that may as well be playgrounds. Some people are isolating in tiny apartments and don’t want people who live in huge houses screaming at them to stay home. I had a telemedicine appointment with my sons physiatrist who is concerned that he is developing a contracture in his left foot. This would be devastating and would require orthopedic surgery and a long recovery. He is also at higher risk of an adverse outcome from anesthesia. I am going to have to resume his therapy and at that point I may as well be radioactive. I am terrified of Covid. Terrified. But I don’t have the LUXURY of putting my life on hold much longer. Good for you if you do. The sanctimony and unchecked privilege is insane.



I am so sorry you are going through all of this. I know people who have lost loved ones. A friend of mine lost a friend last month, a cousin last week, and has another friend in ICU, but he did just come off the ventilator on Sunday and is making progress, so everyone is hopeful. I do get how serious this is. I also don't believe the media is making it into less than it is. Cuomo says every single day how horrible this is, and how reopening has to be extremely slow and calculated.
The news shows us the insides of hospitals & ICU's, both here in the US, and in Italy. The woman across the street is an ER nurse at a well respected LI hospital. If I am out in the front yard with my kids when she is coming home from work, she will update me. The loss of life beyond painful, horrific, and tragic. That is not lost on me. I do have hope because she has said that for the past week, the hospital strain has been easing, and less people are coming into the ER, less people are being intubated, and more people are recovering and being discharged. I cry daily for the loss of life. I am scared for my health, and the health of all those I care about.
But, guess what? 11 years ago, before I got married and had my children, I attempted suicide. My depression & anxiety is very, very real. I worked incredibly hard to get myself into a place where I enjoyed my life and did not want to die. People suffering in mental anguish, those with children who need extra attention & therapies that they are not receiving, who are not getting a paycheck, and when they go to food banks, there is no more food. Those who are ill with other ailments that are not being pushed to the side, children who are suffering depression from being closed off from school, their friends, their grandparents. Those who spent their whole lives building up a business, only to now have it possibly be gone forever.
People are suffering. From Covid, from having loved ones with Covid, and from a whole host of other things. I'm tired of those saying that if we really knew, we would happily sit in our homes if we really knew. No. I know. But that doesn't stop all of the other problems in the world from continuing as well.
There was a meme going around that said something to the effect of how easy this is- we can save lives by just sitting on our couch and binge watching Netflix. Um, no. Let's see how everyone would still be so happy to do this in 18 months...because, guess what? There would be no country to reopen. Homelessness, starvation, drug addiction, financial ruin, suicide...we will have eradicated Covid, but at what cost?
Sorry, vent over. I just can't take it anymore.



I agree with this word for word. I understand what is happening out there. And I do have somewhat of a privilege in that I have some work left, a decent savings for 6 months, working on getting my stimulus and unemployment, etc.

But 18 months is too long. It isn’t feasible for most of the population. I’m not really sure what will happen to me in 6 months’ time...



NaturalMama, thank you for sharing your very personal story.
I agree with you. This is not feasible.
This is not a long term solution.
You cannot quarantine (and I hate using that word because it's wrong- quarantine is for people who are sick) an entire country of mainly healthy people indefinitely. It was meant to be temporary to flatten the curve. Which it did.
And I'm scared because our governor doesn't seem to have any plan. Any plan other than pushing the date out every 2 weeks indefinitely because he has no clue what to do.
None.
All he cares about is no one dying. Not one person. But he doesn't talk about the people who die of other things- like suicide, like other diseases that go undetected because everyone is cancelling well visits and routine tests. All lives matter, not just lives lost to this virus.
And we have no say in the matter. We are helpless. It scares me.
And we wonder why people are rising up and protesting in the streets. I expect more of that to come to be honest.

Message edited 4/23/2020 6:16:22 AM.

Posted 4/23/20 6:14 AM
 

lightblue
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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by Hopefulmama

Posted by Naturalmama

If restaurants, bars, movie theaters open May 15th, I will not feel comfortable going just yet. But, yes, at that point I will start meeting friends for walks, seeing my family, and allow my kids to ride bikes with the kids next door- who have also been 100% home since March 15th, like we have. I will keep a safe distance and have a mask on- but my mental health is rapidly declining. My almost 9 yr old told me tonight he would rather get the virus than have to live like this. I am not willing to do this for 18 months. It is not because I don't care about the greater good, it is not because I want to go get my hair & nails done. It is because I am on the brink of not mentally surviving this.
All I want is for my kids to go to school, and us to be able to safely see some people outside of our immediate family. I don't need shopping malls, restaurants, nail salons, hair salons, movie theaters, vacations, or museums. My son's mental health matters to me. I tell him why we are doing this, I tell him why we have to. He gets it, but he is about to be 9. He can't comprehend it the way adults can. He cries himself to sleep every single night. Has lost interest in eating and face timing with family & friends.
We can't reopen now. I know that. But my family will not survive much longer than another 2 months or so. My own house is collapsing under the weight of this. Mental illness is not easy. Not everyone is savoring every second with their children, making homemade baked treats, and loving homeschooling. Some people are barely surviving each day.



Exactly. It’s not about urgently needing to get your hair done. It’s about understanding that not everyone lives in a utopian fairytale of steady paychecks, packed second freezers in the basement, supportive partners, neurotypical children, and backyards that may as well be playgrounds. Some people are isolating in tiny apartments and don’t want people who live in huge houses screaming at them to stay home. I had a telemedicine appointment with my sons physiatrist who is concerned that he is developing a contracture in his left foot. This would be devastating and would require orthopedic surgery and a long recovery. He is also at higher risk of an adverse outcome from anesthesia. I am going to have to resume his therapy and at that point I may as well be radioactive. I am terrified of Covid. Terrified. But I don’t have the LUXURY of putting my life on hold much longer. Good for you if you do. The sanctimony and unchecked privilege is insane.



Totally agree.

Posted 4/23/20 6:16 AM
 

valentinesbaby
LIF Adult

Member since 2/20

900 total posts

Name:
Valentines

Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by Hopefulmama

Posted by Naturalmama

If restaurants, bars, movie theaters open May 15th, I will not feel comfortable going just yet. But, yes, at that point I will start meeting friends for walks, seeing my family, and allow my kids to ride bikes with the kids next door- who have also been 100% home since March 15th, like we have. I will keep a safe distance and have a mask on- but my mental health is rapidly declining. My almost 9 yr old told me tonight he would rather get the virus than have to live like this. I am not willing to do this for 18 months. It is not because I don't care about the greater good, it is not because I want to go get my hair & nails done. It is because I am on the brink of not mentally surviving this.
All I want is for my kids to go to school, and us to be able to safely see some people outside of our immediate family. I don't need shopping malls, restaurants, nail salons, hair salons, movie theaters, vacations, or museums. My son's mental health matters to me. I tell him why we are doing this, I tell him why we have to. He gets it, but he is about to be 9. He can't comprehend it the way adults can. He cries himself to sleep every single night. Has lost interest in eating and face timing with family & friends.
We can't reopen now. I know that. But my family will not survive much longer than another 2 months or so. My own house is collapsing under the weight of this. Mental illness is not easy. Not everyone is savoring every second with their children, making homemade baked treats, and loving homeschooling. Some people are barely surviving each day.



Exactly. It’s not about urgently needing to get your hair done. It’s about understanding that not everyone lives in a utopian fairytale of steady paychecks, packed second freezers in the basement, supportive partners, neurotypical children, and backyards that may as well be playgrounds. Some people are isolating in tiny apartments and don’t want people who live in huge houses screaming at them to stay home. I had a telemedicine appointment with my sons physiatrist who is concerned that he is developing a contracture in his left foot. This would be devastating and would require orthopedic surgery and a long recovery. He is also at higher risk of an adverse outcome from anesthesia. I am going to have to resume his therapy and at that point I may as well be radioactive. I am terrified of Covid. Terrified. But I don’t have the LUXURY of putting my life on hold much longer. Good for you if you do. The sanctimony and unchecked privilege is insane.



I am so sorry you are going through all of this. I know people who have lost loved ones. A friend of mine lost a friend last month, a cousin last week, and has another friend in ICU, but he did just come off the ventilator on Sunday and is making progress, so everyone is hopeful. I do get how serious this is. I also don't believe the media is making it into less than it is. Cuomo says every single day how horrible this is, and how reopening has to be extremely slow and calculated.
The news shows us the insides of hospitals & ICU's, both here in the US, and in Italy. The woman across the street is an ER nurse at a well respected LI hospital. If I am out in the front yard with my kids when she is coming home from work, she will update me. The loss of life beyond painful, horrific, and tragic. That is not lost on me. I do have hope because she has said that for the past week, the hospital strain has been easing, and less people are coming into the ER, less people are being intubated, and more people are recovering and being discharged. I cry daily for the loss of life. I am scared for my health, and the health of all those I care about.
But, guess what? 11 years ago, before I got married and had my children, I attempted suicide. My depression & anxiety is very, very real. I worked incredibly hard to get myself into a place where I enjoyed my life and did not want to die. People suffering in mental anguish, those with children who need extra attention & therapies that they are not receiving, who are not getting a paycheck, and when they go to food banks, there is no more food. Those who are ill with other ailments that are not being pushed to the side, children who are suffering depression from being closed off from school, their friends, their grandparents. Those who spent their whole lives building up a business, only to now have it possibly be gone forever.
People are suffering. From Covid, from having loved ones with Covid, and from a whole host of other things. I'm tired of those saying that if we really knew, we would happily sit in our homes if we really knew. No. I know. But that doesn't stop all of the other problems in the world from continuing as well.
There was a meme going around that said something to the effect of how easy this is- we can save lives by just sitting on our couch and binge watching Netflix. Um, no. Let's see how everyone would still be so happy to do this in 18 months...because, guess what? There would be no country to reopen. Homelessness, starvation, drug addiction, financial ruin, suicide...we will have eradicated Covid, but at what cost?
Sorry, vent over. I just can't take it anymore.



I agree with this word for word. I understand what is happening out there. And I do have somewhat of a privilege in that I have some work left, a decent savings for 6 months, working on getting my stimulus and unemployment, etc.

But 18 months is too long. It isn’t feasible for most of the population. I’m not really sure what will happen to me in 6 months’ time...



NaturalMama, thank you for sharing your very personal story.
I agree with you. This is not feasible.
This is not a long term solution.
You cannot quarantine (and I hate using that word because it's wrong- quarantine is for people who are sick) an entire country of mainly healthy people indefinitely. It was meant to be temporary to flatten the curve. Which it did.
And I'm scared because our governor doesn't seem to have any plan. Any plan other than pushing the date out every 2 weeks indefinitely because he has no clue what to do.
None.
All he cares about is no one dying. Not one person. But he doesn't talk about the people who die of other things- like suicide, like other diseases that go undetected because everyone is cancelling well visits and routine tests. All lives matter, not just lives lost to this virus.
And we have no say in the matter. We are helpless. It scares me.
And we wonder why people are rising up and protesting in the streets. I expect more of that to come to be honest.



Exactly and yesterday he pushed that reporter away with her question about suicide. Telling people to go get an essential job. He has no clue sitting in his mansion and not doing what he tells others to do as he has gone to dinner with people he doesn’t live with and not wearing a mask.

Posted 4/23/20 6:29 AM
 

NervousNell
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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by valentinesbaby

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by Hopefulmama

Posted by Naturalmama

If restaurants, bars, movie theaters open May 15th, I will not feel comfortable going just yet. But, yes, at that point I will start meeting friends for walks, seeing my family, and allow my kids to ride bikes with the kids next door- who have also been 100% home since March 15th, like we have. I will keep a safe distance and have a mask on- but my mental health is rapidly declining. My almost 9 yr old told me tonight he would rather get the virus than have to live like this. I am not willing to do this for 18 months. It is not because I don't care about the greater good, it is not because I want to go get my hair & nails done. It is because I am on the brink of not mentally surviving this.
All I want is for my kids to go to school, and us to be able to safely see some people outside of our immediate family. I don't need shopping malls, restaurants, nail salons, hair salons, movie theaters, vacations, or museums. My son's mental health matters to me. I tell him why we are doing this, I tell him why we have to. He gets it, but he is about to be 9. He can't comprehend it the way adults can. He cries himself to sleep every single night. Has lost interest in eating and face timing with family & friends.
We can't reopen now. I know that. But my family will not survive much longer than another 2 months or so. My own house is collapsing under the weight of this. Mental illness is not easy. Not everyone is savoring every second with their children, making homemade baked treats, and loving homeschooling. Some people are barely surviving each day.



Exactly. It’s not about urgently needing to get your hair done. It’s about understanding that not everyone lives in a utopian fairytale of steady paychecks, packed second freezers in the basement, supportive partners, neurotypical children, and backyards that may as well be playgrounds. Some people are isolating in tiny apartments and don’t want people who live in huge houses screaming at them to stay home. I had a telemedicine appointment with my sons physiatrist who is concerned that he is developing a contracture in his left foot. This would be devastating and would require orthopedic surgery and a long recovery. He is also at higher risk of an adverse outcome from anesthesia. I am going to have to resume his therapy and at that point I may as well be radioactive. I am terrified of Covid. Terrified. But I don’t have the LUXURY of putting my life on hold much longer. Good for you if you do. The sanctimony and unchecked privilege is insane.



I am so sorry you are going through all of this. I know people who have lost loved ones. A friend of mine lost a friend last month, a cousin last week, and has another friend in ICU, but he did just come off the ventilator on Sunday and is making progress, so everyone is hopeful. I do get how serious this is. I also don't believe the media is making it into less than it is. Cuomo says every single day how horrible this is, and how reopening has to be extremely slow and calculated.
The news shows us the insides of hospitals & ICU's, both here in the US, and in Italy. The woman across the street is an ER nurse at a well respected LI hospital. If I am out in the front yard with my kids when she is coming home from work, she will update me. The loss of life beyond painful, horrific, and tragic. That is not lost on me. I do have hope because she has said that for the past week, the hospital strain has been easing, and less people are coming into the ER, less people are being intubated, and more people are recovering and being discharged. I cry daily for the loss of life. I am scared for my health, and the health of all those I care about.
But, guess what? 11 years ago, before I got married and had my children, I attempted suicide. My depression & anxiety is very, very real. I worked incredibly hard to get myself into a place where I enjoyed my life and did not want to die. People suffering in mental anguish, those with children who need extra attention & therapies that they are not receiving, who are not getting a paycheck, and when they go to food banks, there is no more food. Those who are ill with other ailments that are not being pushed to the side, children who are suffering depression from being closed off from school, their friends, their grandparents. Those who spent their whole lives building up a business, only to now have it possibly be gone forever.
People are suffering. From Covid, from having loved ones with Covid, and from a whole host of other things. I'm tired of those saying that if we really knew, we would happily sit in our homes if we really knew. No. I know. But that doesn't stop all of the other problems in the world from continuing as well.
There was a meme going around that said something to the effect of how easy this is- we can save lives by just sitting on our couch and binge watching Netflix. Um, no. Let's see how everyone would still be so happy to do this in 18 months...because, guess what? There would be no country to reopen. Homelessness, starvation, drug addiction, financial ruin, suicide...we will have eradicated Covid, but at what cost?
Sorry, vent over. I just can't take it anymore.



I agree with this word for word. I understand what is happening out there. And I do have somewhat of a privilege in that I have some work left, a decent savings for 6 months, working on getting my stimulus and unemployment, etc.

But 18 months is too long. It isn’t feasible for most of the population. I’m not really sure what will happen to me in 6 months’ time...



NaturalMama, thank you for sharing your very personal story.
I agree with you. This is not feasible.
This is not a long term solution.
You cannot quarantine (and I hate using that word because it's wrong- quarantine is for people who are sick) an entire country of mainly healthy people indefinitely. It was meant to be temporary to flatten the curve. Which it did.
And I'm scared because our governor doesn't seem to have any plan. Any plan other than pushing the date out every 2 weeks indefinitely because he has no clue what to do.
None.
All he cares about is no one dying. Not one person. But he doesn't talk about the people who die of other things- like suicide, like other diseases that go undetected because everyone is cancelling well visits and routine tests. All lives matter, not just lives lost to this virus.
And we have no say in the matter. We are helpless. It scares me.
And we wonder why people are rising up and protesting in the streets. I expect more of that to come to be honest.



Exactly and yesterday he pushed that reporter away with her question about suicide. Telling people to go get an essential job. He has no clue sitting in his mansion and not doing what he tells others to do as he has gone to dinner with people he doesn’t live with and not wearing a mask.



Exactly. He's a moron. He's still making a salary. He still has a place to live. Clueless and not any idea on what to do next.

Posted 4/23/20 6:30 AM
 

ChilisWife
God Bless America

Member since 5/05

3570 total posts

Name:
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Re: How long are you willing to adhere to social distancing rules?

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by Hopefulmama

Posted by Naturalmama

If restaurants, bars, movie theaters open May 15th, I will not feel comfortable going just yet. But, yes, at that point I will start meeting friends for walks, seeing my family, and allow my kids to ride bikes with the kids next door- who have also been 100% home since March 15th, like we have. I will keep a safe distance and have a mask on- but my mental health is rapidly declining. My almost 9 yr old told me tonight he would rather get the virus than have to live like this. I am not willing to do this for 18 months. It is not because I don't care about the greater good, it is not because I want to go get my hair & nails done. It is because I am on the brink of not mentally surviving this.
All I want is for my kids to go to school, and us to be able to safely see some people outside of our immediate family. I don't need shopping malls, restaurants, nail salons, hair salons, movie theaters, vacations, or museums. My son's mental health matters to me. I tell him why we are doing this, I tell him why we have to. He gets it, but he is about to be 9. He can't comprehend it the way adults can. He cries himself to sleep every single night. Has lost interest in eating and face timing with family & friends.
We can't reopen now. I know that. But my family will not survive much longer than another 2 months or so. My own house is collapsing under the weight of this. Mental illness is not easy. Not everyone is savoring every second with their children, making homemade baked treats, and loving homeschooling. Some people are barely surviving each day.



Exactly. It’s not about urgently needing to get your hair done. It’s about understanding that not everyone lives in a utopian fairytale of steady paychecks, packed second freezers in the basement, supportive partners, neurotypical children, and backyards that may as well be playgrounds. Some people are isolating in tiny apartments and don’t want people who live in huge houses screaming at them to stay home. I had a telemedicine appointment with my sons physiatrist who is concerned that he is developing a contracture in his left foot. This would be devastating and would require orthopedic surgery and a long recovery. He is also at higher risk of an adverse outcome from anesthesia. I am going to have to resume his therapy and at that point I may as well be radioactive. I am terrified of Covid. Terrified. But I don’t have the LUXURY of putting my life on hold much longer. Good for you if you do. The sanctimony and unchecked privilege is insane.



I am so sorry you are going through all of this. I know people who have lost loved ones. A friend of mine lost a friend last month, a cousin last week, and has another friend in ICU, but he did just come off the ventilator on Sunday and is making progress, so everyone is hopeful. I do get how serious this is. I also don't believe the media is making it into less than it is. Cuomo says every single day how horrible this is, and how reopening has to be extremely slow and calculated.
The news shows us the insides of hospitals & ICU's, both here in the US, and in Italy. The woman across the street is an ER nurse at a well respected LI hospital. If I am out in the front yard with my kids when she is coming home from work, she will update me. The loss of life beyond painful, horrific, and tragic. That is not lost on me. I do have hope because she has said that for the past week, the hospital strain has been easing, and less people are coming into the ER, less people are being intubated, and more people are recovering and being discharged. I cry daily for the loss of life. I am scared for my health, and the health of all those I care about.
But, guess what? 11 years ago, before I got married and had my children, I attempted suicide. My depression & anxiety is very, very real. I worked incredibly hard to get myself into a place where I enjoyed my life and did not want to die. People suffering in mental anguish, those with children who need extra attention & therapies that they are not receiving, who are not getting a paycheck, and when they go to food banks, there is no more food. Those who are ill with other ailments that are not being pushed to the side, children who are suffering depression from being closed off from school, their friends, their grandparents. Those who spent their whole lives building up a business, only to now have it possibly be gone forever.
People are suffering. From Covid, from having loved ones with Covid, and from a whole host of other things. I'm tired of those saying that if we really knew, we would happily sit in our homes if we really knew. No. I know. But that doesn't stop all of the other problems in the world from continuing as well.
There was a meme going around that said something to the effect of how easy this is- we can save lives by just sitting on our couch and binge watching Netflix. Um, no. Let's see how everyone would still be so happy to do this in 18 months...because, guess what? There would be no country to reopen. Homelessness, starvation, drug addiction, financial ruin, suicide...we will have eradicated Covid, but at what cost?
Sorry, vent over. I just can't take it anymore.



I agree with this word for word. I understand what is happening out there. And I do have somewhat of a privilege in that I have some work left, a decent savings for 6 months, working on getting my stimulus and unemployment, etc.

But 18 months is too long. It isn’t feasible for most of the population. I’m not really sure what will happen to me in 6 months’ time...



NaturalMama, thank you for sharing your very personal story.
I agree with you. This is not feasible.
This is not a long term solution.
You cannot quarantine (and I hate using that word because it's wrong- quarantine is for people who are sick) an entire country of mainly healthy people indefinitely. It was meant to be temporary to flatten the curve. Which it did.
And I'm scared because our governor doesn't seem to have any plan. Any plan other than pushing the date out every 2 weeks indefinitely because he has no clue what to do.
None.
All he cares about is no one dying. Not one person. But he doesn't talk about the people who die of other things- like suicide, like other diseases that go undetected because everyone is cancelling well visits and routine tests. All lives matter, not just lives lost to this virus.
And we have no say in the matter. We are helpless. It scares me.
And we wonder why people are rising up and protesting in the streets. I expect more of that to come to be honest.



Thank you Nell! This is so spot on correct on all points. Zero deaths is what he wants (unless of course it is from suicide or heart attack or cancer in which case he could not care less).

And I don’t care if that makes me a “disgusting psycho” as per the other thread. Wait and see. The longer this goes on, the worse it will get and I DON’T mean the virus!

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