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Dog with Bite History
I just need some reassurance that I'm not crazy (or told that I am I guess).
My BIL and his wife adopted an older dog about a month ago. Medium sized, athletic, and about 5 years old. She had been in the shelter a while but seemed sweet and they said they played around with her and she was really nice and laid back. Yesterday, my MIL tells my DH that they found the old owner on facebook and found out the dog was dog aggressive so we shouldn't introduce our dogs. OK.
Then today my ILs call to see if we mind if BIL brings the dog over while they're watching my 3 year old. I start with saying I'm not really comfortable because I don't know the dog, but I guess if they don't have any concerns and they're really careful then it's ok.
Then I got on facebook, find the old owner, her posts are public, and I discover she returned the dog because the dog attacked her other dog and drew blood. She didn't go into detail but it sounded bad and it didn't sound like she was one quickly give up on a dog. The woman had the dog on anti-anxiety drugs and was working with a trainer before the attack. I called my DH and had him tell his parents that we don't feel comfortable, so the dog isn't coming over tonight.
Now, knowing the dog has the capacity to bite, even if it was a dog and not a human, I don't think I'm EVER going to feel comfortable having my kids (currently 10 months and 3 years old) around this dog. Is that unreasonable?
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MissJones
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No. Not unreasonable at all.
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MichLiz213
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Not unreasonable at all.
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| Posted 3/30/18 5:10 PM |
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Michi
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Nope, not unreasonable at all. A child always comes before a dog in any situation so I would never allow the dog near my kids.
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| Posted 3/30/18 5:24 PM |
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Michi
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Nope, not unreasonable at all. A child always comes before a dog in any situation so I would never allow the dog near my kids.
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| Posted 3/30/18 5:33 PM |
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nycgirl
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Re: Dog with Bite History
We have a dog aggressive dog living behind us. It bit someone walking a dog a year ago and then mauled a neighbor’s hand very recently. I wouldn’t trust my young kids with a dog that bit anything.
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| Posted 3/30/18 6:00 PM |
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I'm a big dog lover and I wouldn't trust it at all! My friends dog randomly bit me and i knew her since she was an 8 week old puppy. I never saw the dog again. They had to put her outside when I came over. I would keep my kids away.
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| Posted 3/30/18 7:26 PM |
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I love animals and have a small dog but if there was even a sign of any type of aggression around my kids or others, I would have to give the dog up for adoption or at least place her in a foster home or have someone in the family care for her. I love my dog more than anything and she’s so wonderful but I couldn’t subject my kids to an aggressive dog. So no, I don’t think you are being unreasonable. I also wouldn’t ask someone if I could bring my dog to my house, I kind of feel that may be over stepping. My dog goes with us to my parents every Sunday but she slags since we got her a few years ago and she will go over with my kids if my mom watches them there, it’s like a second home to her but I would never even think of bringing her anywhere including my in laws
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| Posted 3/30/18 9:39 PM |
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Wait, so your ILs were watching your kid or your BIL
was watching them? Were they asking for you to take the dog so it would not be present while they were taking care of your child? Or were they asking you to teach to dog while you didn’t have a child around? I think I am misunderstanding.
Ultimately, no I would not have a dog with a history of aggressive behavior around my children. Non-negotiable.
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| Posted 3/31/18 6:01 AM |
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My ILs were watching my son. My BIL and his wife were coming over for dinner at my ILs while my son was there. We always take our dog over to ILs house when we go for dinner, so I think BIL (their son) was expecting to be able to do the same.
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| Posted 3/31/18 7:15 AM |
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Thank you for all your responses and reassurance. I felt much better after talking to my ILs and realizing they agreed the dog could never be around the kids. I was worried they would act like I was overreacting. Now we just need BIL and his wife to understand how careful they need to be/What they're talking on.
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Not now. This is a new dog that you don't know. I do have a pit mix and she can be aggressive with other dogs. I also have a collie mix. They have fought but never drawn blood. Now while the pit isn't great with other dogs, she's never been even remotely aggressive towards a human. She's never so much as curled her lip or growled at any person... ever. And we've had her for 12 years. I don't really leave my 2 y/o alone with her... or any dog, but more because she's big and dopey and more likely to knock her over than bite her. But I wouldn't chance it anyway since a 2 y/o doesn't really understand boundaries and when to leave the dogs alone. But it IS possible to have a dog that is aggressive towards other dogs but not towards people. But there's nothing wrong with caution. Like you said, it's a new dog, in a new environment, I would tread carefully. Even after years, I'd never leave my kids alone with the dog. But then again, I feel that way about ANY dog.
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I really wouldn't trust any dog completely around a 3 year old. Even the most docile dog could potentially be provoked by an unpredictable toddler. So a dog with a history of aggression, nope, no way. I'm not sure I'd ever being ok letting my child interact with that dog.
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| Posted 4/2/18 11:20 AM |
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KarenK122
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Not over reacting at all. I have a lovable golden doodle and I won't even let him be around young children because you never know. Especially with biting history and not knowing the pet, there is no way I would have the dog over my house with my kids without me there.
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Not at all. My dog is aggressive and a biter. We have had her medicated, in sleep away bootcamp, worked with a behaviorist, we have spent THOUSANDS on her, shes just wired that way. She is a super tiny breed, so I dont worry about her mauling anyone but she will bite and draw blood....she is best friends with my kids, she is VERY protective of them and anyone (aside from DH, me or my mom) being near them is her biggest trigger, she sees them as her puppies so-to-speak. We had rescued her and she started off fine and just became more aggressive towards strangers and will bite them as she bonded with my kids. Like I said, I dont worry about her at all around MY kids, but when I have company over (especially nieces and nephews), she gets locked in the bedroom, she just cant be around people and I would never expect people to be comfortable having her around or offended if they said please dont bring your dog (not that I ever would). So not, you are not being unreasonable and as the owner of an aggressive dog it is MY responsibility to know her limitations and not bring her around people, especially other animals and children.
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no, not unreasonable at all. It was completely irresponsible of the shelter or rescue NOT to disclose this to potential adopters.
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no, not unreasonable at all. It was completely irresponsible of the shelter or rescue NOT to disclose this to potential adopters.
They probably did. Quite a few dogs are extremely friendly with humans, but do not like other dogs. My dog is the same way. She is the gentlest creature around when it comes to people, but there are a lot of dogs that she doesn't doesn't like, so we don't put her in situations with other dogs.
The shelter that we got our dog explained all of that with us.
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I have two big dogs (that we've raised from puppies) and a young child who rolls around and plays with the dogs all day long and even I would not be comfortable with the situation you described.
Truth is even if you didn't know of the dog's previous history of biting another dog I still wouldn't be comfortable with it. Bringing a dog into a home at age 5 and not knowing their history should throw up a proceed-with-caution flag for anyone. Until that dog has acclimated and proven itself over time I would not want my children near it.
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Posted by CookiePuss
no, not unreasonable at all. It was completely irresponsible of the shelter or rescue NOT to disclose this to potential adopters.
They probably did. Quite a few dogs are extremely friendly with humans, but do not like other dogs. My dog is the same way. She is the gentlest creature around when it comes to people, but there are a lot of dogs that she doesn't doesn't like, so we don't put her in situations with other dogs.
The shelter that we got our dog explained all of that with us.
Same with my rescue dog I got from my cousin. He does not like other dogs or "new" dogs. Since I have a Yorkie that he never bites or does anything too. They actually sleep in the same bed sometimes.
But for some reason he hates other dogs and barks at them. He even goes after my BIL's pit when he tries to play with him. Before our home he was around my cousins baby who used to throw her toys at him and pull his tail. Never did anything to her.
OP if you aren't comfortable with the situation, that is perfectly normal.
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It's driving me nuts. Everyone keeps telling me how sweet she is, she's just a big mush, and unfortunately, she just doesn't get along with dogs. Yeah, that's great, but I still don't want my children anywhere hear her.
Both my kids are loud and active, which I feel like is a perfect recipe for a dog bite even if she's the sweetest dog in the world around adults. I made sure I was completely clear to my in-laws that no matter how sweet she is, I don't want her near my children. I just wanted to make sure I was on the record.
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Big dog lover and owner here, NOPE< you are not being unreasonable. Were they not told of the bite history and who did they adopt from? They should contact them asap.
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It's driving me nuts. Everyone keeps telling me how sweet she is, she's just a big mush, and unfortunately, she just doesn't get along with dogs. Yeah, that's great, but I still don't want my children anywhere hear her.
Both my kids are loud and active, which I feel like is a perfect recipe for a dog bite even if she's the sweetest dog in the world around adults. I made sure I was completely clear to my in-laws that no matter how sweet she is, I don't want her near my children. I just wanted to make sure I was on the record.
They don't know the dog and until a lot of time passes and the dog is tested in various situations, none of them should be your kids as the test. Very sucky situation for you.
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The go-to answer on these boards has always been "My kid, my rules", and I think that definitely applies here. If you say your DC aren't going near a dog (or anywhere else), then that's the final decision, until you decide differently.
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Posted by CookiePuss
no, not unreasonable at all. It was completely irresponsible of the shelter or rescue NOT to disclose this to potential adopters.
They probably did. Quite a few dogs are extremely friendly with humans, but do not like other dogs. My dog is the same way. She is the gentlest creature around when it comes to people, but there are a lot of dogs that she doesn't doesn't like, so we don't put her in situations with other dogs.
The shelter that we got our dog explained all of that with us.
Same with my rescue dog I got from my cousin. He does not like other dogs or "new" dogs. Since I have a Yorkie that he never bites or does anything too. They actually sleep in the same bed sometimes.
But for some reason he hates other dogs and barks at them. He even goes after my BIL's pit when he tries to play with him. Before our home he was around my cousins baby who used to throw her toys at him and pull his tail. Never did anything to her.
OP if you aren't comfortable with the situation, that is perfectly normal.
Based on the OP, they only found out about the dog aggression via finding the old owner on Facebook who disclosed it.
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Posted by CookiePuss
no, not unreasonable at all. It was completely irresponsible of the shelter or rescue NOT to disclose this to potential adopters.
They probably did. Quite a few dogs are extremely friendly with humans, but do not like other dogs. My dog is the same way. She is the gentlest creature around when it comes to people, but there are a lot of dogs that she doesn't doesn't like, so we don't put her in situations with other dogs.
The shelter that we got our dog explained all of that with us.
Same with my rescue dog I got from my cousin. He does not like other dogs or "new" dogs. Since I have a Yorkie that he never bites or does anything too. They actually sleep in the same bed sometimes.
But for some reason he hates other dogs and barks at them. He even goes after my BIL's pit when he tries to play with him. Before our home he was around my cousins baby who used to throw her toys at him and pull his tail. Never did anything to her.
OP if you aren't comfortable with the situation, that is perfectly normal.
Based on the OP, they only found out about the dog aggression via finding the old owner on Facebook who disclosed it.
From what I've been told, the shelter did not disclose it to them. They were told she is "dog tolerant" whatever that means, but it would seem to imply that she's fine with other dogs. I don't know if the shelter was hiding it or if they just didn't ask the right questions or if they didn't hear what they were being told.
We had discussed getting our dogs together before the old owner was found, so they definitely didn't know about the history.
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