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sometimesmommy
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I dont think its the end. There's going to be a twist with Jon.

Posted 6/14/15 11:16 PM
 
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rugratmama
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Re: Game of Thrones (spoilers)

Ok. So I was discussing on FB with another LIFer....not sure if she's still on here. Theory is Jon is a Targayen and that the Red Woman went back for a reason. They will burn his body and he will be reborn.

There's still hope!

Posted 6/14/15 11:54 PM
 

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That's what I was thinking, Melisandre will do something.

But according to this interview, he is done. (Tried 3 times to insert weblink on iPhone didn't work, but here is the website) :

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/14/game-thrones-jon-dies-interview

Message edited 6/15/2015 7:12:53 AM.

Posted 6/15/15 7:10 AM
 

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I don't believe it. They made a point of showing his dire wolf last episode in the scene with Sam, which I totally forgot was even there, so I feel like they reminded us the wolf was there for a reason, and then Melisandre went back there and she's been obsessed with Jon.

Either Jon will warg (I had to look up what they called that possessing their animals thing… LOL) into his wolf or Melisandre will bring him back or some combination.

Posted 6/15/15 9:38 AM
 

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Part of me wonders if they actually told Kit he died off the show just so that it's plausible deniability, and as time gets closer to season 6, he will be told otherwise. There is no way Melisandre just 'happened' to go back to Castle Black after realizing Stanis was not the one the Lord of Light was referencing. It's too much of a set up. I am fully confident he will be resurrected at some point next season and that she will be the one to do it.

Posted 6/15/15 9:39 AM
 

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Re: Game of Thrones (spoilers)

Posted by starlitdragon

Part of me wonders if they actually told Kit he died off the show just so that it's plausible deniability, and as time gets closer to season 6, he will be told otherwise. There is no way Melisandre just 'happened' to go back to Castle Black after realizing Stanis was not the one the Lord of Light was referencing. It's too much of a set up. I am fully confident he will be resurrected at some point next season and that she will be the one to do it.



That's what I'm starting to think. I sort of feel like there's no way this is it - George RR even says that he might not be gone... plus, George RR keeps stressing the "truth of jon's father".... there has to be something more with him!

Once we're all done losing our sh!t over Jon, can we discuss the whole Cersi "atonement"? When she got back and was picked up by (the mountain?) she had this look like yeah, I'm back, and you all are gonna be f$#@ed!

OMG, and Myrcella telling Jamie she knows he's her father, and them having this amazing father daughter bonding moment just to be ended by her death?!?!?

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Posted 6/15/15 10:09 AM
 

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Re: Game of Thrones (spoilers)

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Posted by starlitdragon

Part of me wonders if they actually told Kit he died off the show just so that it's plausible deniability, and as time gets closer to season 6, he will be told otherwise. There is no way Melisandre just 'happened' to go back to Castle Black after realizing Stanis was not the one the Lord of Light was referencing. It's too much of a set up. I am fully confident he will be resurrected at some point next season and that she will be the one to do it.



That's what I'm starting to think. I sort of feel like there's no way this is it - George RR even says that he might not be gone... plus, George RR keeps stressing the "truth of jon's father".... there has to be something more with him!

Once we're all done losing our sh!t over Jon, can we discuss the whole Cersi "atonement"? When she got back and was picked up by (the mountain?) she had this look like yeah, I'm back, and you all are gonna be f$#@ed!

OMG, and Myrcella telling Jamie she knows he's her father, and them having this amazing father daughter bonding moment just to be ended by her death?!?!?



They never told us who Jon's real lineage is...makes me agree this is not over. It was still shocking nonetheless.

On a lighter note, DH was bummed when I told him I read that Cersei's naked body was actually a body double's Chat Icon

Posted 6/15/15 10:20 AM
 

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She does go nude, she's done it for other parts, so I wouldn't be surprised if it actually was her... it was a little on the gratuitous side for me, and I normally don't care on GoT.

Posted 6/15/15 10:21 AM
 

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I'm definitely in the "jon snow is not really dead for good" camp. Mellisandre will do something.

I don't understand why the high sparrow just takes her word for it when he asks her if she was also sleeping with her brother. She is still supposed to have a trial, correct?

They had too many storylines to cover in one hour and I feel like it was a little bit too all over the place.

Posted 6/15/15 11:02 AM
 

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Posted by ohbaby08

I'm definitely in the "jon snow is not really dead for good" camp. Mellisandre will do something.

I don't understand why the high sparrow just takes her word for it when he asks her if she was also sleeping with her brother. She is still supposed to have a trial, correct?

They had too many storylines to cover in one hour and I feel like it was a little bit too all over the place.



I don't know if he's necessarily believing her, or just placating her until the trial. She will be requiring a trial for the accusations of being with her brother.

I disagree, I felt as though they hit on the different storylines very well, I didn't feel like it bounced at all, as they covered each story one by one. DH and I actually said they really closed a lot of gaps AND left a ton of cliff hangers.

Posted 6/15/15 11:09 AM
 

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Also, while we are discussing "deaths", I don't think Myrcella will die and I'll be really surprised if they kill her off this way. They have Trystane Martell on the ship with her. if Arienne really managed to do this, may as well kiss the prince goodbye as well. Although books and the show seem so different now, I have no idea what to believe anymore.

And anyone else get really excited when Theon pushed Ramsey's lover over the ledge? Because I literally cheered with delight.

Posted 6/15/15 11:11 AM
 

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I screamed at the tv "finally!" when Theon actually did something to help Sansa. lol. But it was so cruel to have Brienne walk away from watching the tower at the very moment that Sansa lights the candle. I was like, "come on!"

I don't know about Myrcella. Oberyn's widow is filled with so much hate for the Lannisters that I wouldn't be surprised if she could care less what happens to Trystane.

Posted 6/15/15 11:44 AM
 

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OMG< I know! That was amazing! I was like, yes, Theon is back, and it's old Theon, the Theon that really regrets what he did to the Starks.

I agree, Arienne I think probably considered Trystane to be as much of a traitor to Oberyn as anyone, since he loved and was to marry Myrcella. I don't know...

Posted 6/15/15 11:56 AM
 

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I love that bec so much was going on that I keep forgetting Brienne killed Stannis.

Posted 6/15/15 12:50 PM
 

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I love that bec so much was going on that I keep forgetting Brienne killed Stannis.



we didn't see her kill him, just raise a sword
and
we didn't see Myrcella actually die

just food for thought Chat Icon

Posted 6/15/15 1:11 PM
 

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Posted by TheWhiteRabbit

I love that bec so much was going on that I keep forgetting Brienne killed Stannis.



we didn't see her kill him, just raise a sword
and
we didn't see Myrcella actually die

just food for thought Chat Icon



Those are very true points... and I said that to DH the second they cut away from Brienne and Stannis... I said I would hate it if she was actually the one who just died....

Posted 6/15/15 1:14 PM
 

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And where the hell is Dany? Are those Dothraki?



That's what i assumed as well - but wouldn't they be welcoming of her if that's who they are?
Or am i forgetting how the whole thing with them ended?

Posted 6/15/15 1:28 PM
 

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Posted by rugratmama

And where the hell is Dany? Are those Dothraki?



That's what i assumed as well - but wouldn't they be welcoming of her if that's who they are?
Or am i forgetting how the whole thing with them ended?



Well, I mean, the only Dothraki that were on her side were the ones that went with her. The only reason the others really were OK with her was because of Drogo. I'm going to guess they'll treat her like any other foreigner.

Posted 6/15/15 2:08 PM
 

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Re: Game of Thrones (spoilers)

According to his interview, Jon Snow is dead for good.

EW interview

Did Tyrion and Sansa commit suicide???

That is the Mountain who picked Cersei up after her shame walk right?

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Posted 6/15/15 4:54 PM
 

jessnbrian
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that's what I posted before... but I think someone mentioned the idea that maybe they are telling him that for plausible deniability.

Posted 6/15/15 5:06 PM
 

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According to his interview, Jon Snow is dead for good.

EW interview

Did Tyrion and Sansa commit suicide???

That is the Mountain who picked Cersei up after her shame walk right?



well, after reading that interview, i'd say on the show he might really be dead. The books are another story and there is room for possibility there.. But they've all come out and said that the books and show are definitely on different paths so i guess we'll have to wait and see on that one!! argh.

Theon and Sansa jumped from the wall - i didn't see it as suicide, more of a last ditch effort to escape by jumping into giant snow bank.

Yes, that was the Mountain, resurrected by Cersei's Maester (can't remember his name)

Posted 6/15/15 5:26 PM
 

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Re: Game of Thrones (spoilers)

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Posted by TheWhiteRabbit

I love that bec so much was going on that I keep forgetting Brienne killed Stannis.



we didn't see her kill him, just raise a sword
and
we didn't see Myrcella actually die

just food for thought Chat Icon



Those are very true points... and I said that to DH the second they cut away from Brienne and Stannis... I said I would hate it if she was actually the one who just died....



I doubt Stannis has enough fight left in him to kill her... or enough loyal followers left to do it for him.

My thinking is Brienne will have the change of heart. Death is too easy for Stannis and Brienne is too noble to execute an unarmed, dying man for hatred or vengeance or whatever. If she was doing it as a mercy, maybe.

My theory, Brienne will force Stannis back to the wall to take the black/face the wildlings, running into Theon and Sansa along the way.

Melisandre will burn Stannis for his king's blood and resurrect Jon Snow, the real Azor Ahai. "Only death can pay for life."

I really liked this Buzzfeed Article (Did I just say that?!).

Posted 6/15/15 6:00 PM
 

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Re: Game of Thrones (spoilers)

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Posted by MrsDiamondgrlie

According to his interview, Jon Snow is dead for good.

EW interview

Did Tyrion and Sansa commit suicide???

That is the Mountain who picked Cersei up after her shame walk right?



well, after reading that interview, i'd say on the show he might really be dead. The books are another story and there is room for possibility there.. But they've all come out and said that the books and show are definitely on different paths so i guess we'll have to wait and see on that one!! argh.

Theon and Sansa jumped from the wall - i didn't see it as suicide, more of a last ditch effort to escape by jumping into giant snow bank.

Yes, that was the Mountain, resurrected by Cersei's Maester (can't remember his name)




Qyburn... he's actually NOT a Maester. He was but he was... uhh demoted (?)... because of his gruesome experiments. Just like this one! Chat Icon

Posted 6/15/15 6:01 PM
 

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Posted by rugratmama

And where the hell is Dany? Are those Dothraki?



That's what i assumed as well - but wouldn't they be welcoming of her if that's who they are?
Or am i forgetting how the whole thing with them ended?



Well, I mean, the only Dothraki that were on her side were the ones that went with her. The only reason the others really were OK with her was because of Drogo. I'm going to guess they'll treat her like any other foreigner.



I actually think they DO know who she is and that it's NOT a good thing. She was largely responsible for Khal Drogo's death (he fought because of her, he had the witch tend his wounds because of her, she practiced blood magic to try to save him and robbed him of a noble death) and they wanted her dead because of it. OR, if not dead, Khaleesis whose Khals have died (or maybe all Dothraki widows?) are supposed to go to Vaes Dothrak and join the Dosh Khaleen, the Dothraki holy women, which Dany refused to do.

Posted 6/15/15 6:05 PM
 

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She does go nude, she's done it for other parts, so I wouldn't be surprised if it actually was her... it was a little on the gratuitous side for me, and I normally don't care on GoT.



http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/14/game-thrones-walk-shame

Apparently a stunt double was used for some of the scenes. DH was disappointed!

Posted 6/15/15 7:02 PM
 
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