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gsgirls1
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Is this a "spoiled child"

First time mom, DD is almost 5 months. Personally, I do not like to let her cry too long depending on the cry. I never let her cry herself to sleep as my DH will do. Just doesn't sit right with me.

I tried to follow the parenting of responding to a cry so baby will be secure in surroundings and her parents.

SOOO, my DD has a temper big time. If not picked up her cry escalates and she stiffens her body with legs straight out. She has tears and once picked up she takes a few minutes to calm down. She doesn't like the car seat/stroller straps and screams like crazy. Walks are a challenge.

So, while in the store, I wheel her around and she is ok . SOmetimes, she begins to scream and I take her out of the stroller to carry her. She likes to be carried and look around. I am concerned that I might be spoiling her because she knows I will pick her up if she cries/screams. Am I setting myself up for spoiling? I am afraid that as she gets older, she will pull this screaming intentionally to get what she wants. How do you deal with this?

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I'm kind of dealing with the same thing at the moment with my DS who is almost 6 months. So far I've just been trying to distract him by handing him a different toy or singing a song instead of picking him up (this is while he's home and playing but wants me to pick him up or hold him). Sometimes if I'm in the middle of something, I'll let him cry for a minute or two and just tell him it's ok, mommy will come get you in a minute.

As far as bedtime, I'm at a loss. I'm resisting doing CIO because I feel like he's too young and it would be heartbreaking for me to hear him scream for too long. I'm having the same issue as you - I don't know if I'm doing the right thing or if I'm spoiling him. Sorry, I don't have any real advice - just wanted to say you're not alone!

Posted 10/9/12 8:04 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

My DD will be 4 months on Thursday, and I've been worrying about the same thing. Even when she was a newborn, my mom would tell me that it's okay to let her cry a little before picking her up, because she would get used to being picked up all the time. I had read that you couldn't spoil a newborn, but now that she's out of the newborn stage, she definitely has seemed to learn that if she cries, mommy will pick her up. It makes it impossible for me to get anything done after work when I'm home with her, because she doesn't want to be put down anywhere. She won't stay in her bouncy seat anymore, and twists her whole body trying to get out, but will stay in it nicely at my MIL's and at daycare, so I know she saves that behavior just for me! She wants to be held upright all the time, or have face-to-face interactions constantly..which I love, but sometimes I need to get things done!

As a child psychologist, I would say that it is learned behavior, and we need to let our kids cry a little bit so that they don't learn that crying always gets them what they want. As a mommy, it's really hard. Right now, I try to give her the attention and upright carrying when I can, before she starts crying for it, so she knows that she can get it without crying. However, if I need to do something, like try to cook, and cannot hold her, I will let her cry until it is feasible for me to give her my attention. I will go over to her and give her a pacifier, or give her a few seconds of face-to-face time, but not pick her up right away.

Posted 10/9/12 8:37 AM
 

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nope.. can't spoiled them under 6m IMHO. I carried her with me all the time and never let her cry. She's very independent now and never had any issues 'letting go'.

For me, I figure they only want you for so long.. then they grow up and now she doesnt like me holding her like that at all. Honestly after about 15m she doesnt even like us to carry her. She wants to walk. So cuddle times are all gone.

*shrug*

Posted 10/9/12 9:57 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

I dont think you can spoil an infant. My DS will be 5 months next week, so around the same age. He acts the same way. I think some of it is the start of separation anxiety.

We are like the only culture that forces our children to cry them selves to sleep while alone in their own rooms. And ride in strollers and car seats where they can't see us.

Get a baby carrier for the stores. Its 9 million times easier than a stroller anyway.

If shes like 2 and screams to get what she wants, thats different. But not at this age.

Posted 10/9/12 9:59 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

Posted by Xelindrya

nope.. can't spoiled them under 6m IMHO. I carried her with me all the time and never let her cry. She's very independent now and never had any issues 'letting go'.

For me, I figure they only want you for so long.. then they grow up and now she doesnt like me holding her like that at all. Honestly after about 15m she doesnt even like us to carry her. She wants to walk. So cuddle times are all gone.

*shrug*



I agree

I don't believe in CIO that young (or really any age, but I seem to be the minority). They need you.

Enjoy every minute of it because in another few months she is going to want you to put her down and not pick her up.

Message edited 10/9/2012 10:03:01 AM.

Posted 10/9/12 10:01 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

Posted by jax1023

I dont think you can spoil an infant. My DS will be 5 months next week, so around the same age. He acts the same way. I think some of it is the start of separation anxiety.

We are like the only culture that forces our children to cry them selves to sleep while alone in their own rooms. And ride in strollers and car seats where they can't see us.

Get a baby carrier for the stores. Its 9 million times easier than a stroller anyway.

If shes like 2 and screams to get what she wants, thats different. But not at this age.



I totally agree with everything you wrote.

I never let my DC cry themselves to sleep, although I did try CIO with my older DS when he was about 8 months but it wasn't for me.

I will say, my DH and I still fight about this and he blames every.single.instance of bad behavior (crying, tantrums, waking in the middle of the night) on the fact that I never let my DC cry it out.

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Posted 10/9/12 10:11 AM
 

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As PPs said, you can't spoil them that young.
jax1023 has some good points. Get an Ergo or a Beco carrier.

Everyone always told me I spoiled DS. "He's never gonna let you put him down.....He'll never go to sleep on his own....etc."
Well, now he's 3, and I already have to chase him down for a hug, and he never wants me to hold him. :(
He goes to bed on his own, and is totally independent.
I think he is so independent because he knows we will always be there, and respond to his needs.

Posted 10/9/12 10:37 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

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Posted by Xelindrya

nope.. can't spoiled them under 6m IMHO. I carried her with me all the time and never let her cry. She's very independent now and never had any issues 'letting go'.

For me, I figure they only want you for so long.. then they grow up and now she doesnt like me holding her like that at all. Honestly after about 15m she doesnt even like us to carry her. She wants to walk. So cuddle times are all gone.

*shrug*



I agree

I don't believe in CIO that young (or really any age, but I seem to be the minority). They need you.

Enjoy every minute of it because in another few months she is going to want you to put her down and not pick her up.




Totally agree!

Posted 10/9/12 10:53 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

I don't think it's a matter of 'spoiling' as it is getting the baby used to a certain behavoir pattern - She screams her head off, you pick her up and carry her .....

If she's not in pain, not hungry, wet, etc ........and she's just crying b/c she doesn't want to sit in that stroller.....Well, IMHO, too damn bad! You need to get stuff done, she needs to sit in the stroller ......She sits, whether she wants to or not ......

Do you have her in the infant carrier? Maybe put her in the regular stroller so she's facing out into the world (so she can look around etc)

Posted 10/9/12 10:54 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

Posted by MarisaK

I don't think it's a matter of 'spoiling' as it is getting the baby used to a certain behavoir pattern - She screams her head off, you pick her up and carry her .....



I completely agree. Children learn behavior from a very young age. While it might not be spoiling them, they do learn to expect certain outcomes.

Posted 10/9/12 10:59 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

Hmm, kind of. My ds was the same way. Dh and I catered to him bc we never wanted to see him cry. He is a little spoiled (very demanding) even at 4 yo. My younger dc is the same way bc we won't let him cry either.

Mommy and daddy are supposed to spoil the kids right? Chat Icon Chat Icon

We did do CIO for both after they turned 2 yo ,

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Posted 10/9/12 11:05 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

Posted by MarisaK

I don't think it's a matter of 'spoiling' as it is getting the baby used to a certain behavoir pattern - She screams her head off, you pick her up and carry her .....

If she's not in pain, not hungry, wet, etc ........and she's just crying b/c she doesn't want to sit in that stroller.....Well, IMHO, too damn bad! You need to get stuff done, she needs to sit in the stroller ......She sits, whether she wants to or not ......

Do you have her in the infant carrier? Maybe put her in the regular stroller so she's facing out into the world (so she can look around etc)



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You are right. Wish dh and I were more like this bc even tho our kids are toddlers now, we get nothing done Chat Icon

Posted 10/9/12 11:12 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

Posted by melonhead

As PPs said, you can't spoil them that young.
jax1023 has some good points. Get an Ergo or a Beco carrier.

Everyone always told me I spoiled DS. "He's never gonna let you put him down.....He'll never go to sleep on his own....etc."
Well, now he's 3, and I already have to chase him down for a hug, and he never wants me to hold him. :(
He goes to bed on his own, and is totally independent.
I think he is so independent because he knows we will always be there, and respond to his needs.



Yeah seriously who ARE these people telling us we are spoiling our children at that age? I got that too.

Oh you pick her up too fast when she cries, she'll never let you put her down.

Oh you shouldn't hold her so much, she'll never walk on time

Dont spend so much time with her she needs to learn to be independent (this followed with have another kid comments).

Let her cry, its good excerise for her lungs and teachs her you aren't there for her beck and call.

Where the HELL did these people COME from?!

My kid had NO issues at ALL walking away from me. NO problem being told no. She was disciplined at a young age and learned very quickly the tone of my voice meant business. She's independent as all get out. She's very happy to play on her own. She stopped using a stroller just after one year and sleeps on her own (thank you). For a COSLEEPER she had NO issues going into her own room.

Spoiling a child to me isn't about picking them up when they cry but GIVING into them for stuff, material things, etc.

AJ is 4. She wanted chocolate when we got the halloween candy. She started to whine "But I want it NOW" "chocooooooolate" sniff, cry.. Give me a break. I shut her up with "what are you whining about? Are you hurt? *no* are you bleeding *no* are you unable to speak *no* then use your words, why are you whining *I want chocolate* well youre not going to get any *but I want* you keep whining and I'll throw away your cookie and send you to sit in the car with daddy *whine* I'm going to ask one more time, do you want to leave *no* then stop" and she did. I said thank you and gave her a kiss.. laughed that it was chocolatey because of her cookie and she laughed at me. She got over it quickly and we continued to shop. A spoiled kid is the kid who's given into all the time (becuase we all give in SOME TIMES) so that they have no boundries of the word "no". JMHO.


If a baby is crying then it wants something and can't communicate. I reacted to that. Its not her fault she can't talk yet. AJ was a late speaker but we started early with communication skills. Sure I gave her time outs and yes, she cried and threw fits. But there's different cries and at under 6m they aren't capable of manipulation yet. (again JMHO). They cry because they need something. Love, comfort, food, change, sleep, etc

When AJ got older and more mobile and vocal things got different. She walked into a table and slammed her forehead so hard it knocked her back on her butt. I just looked over and quickly assessed she was shocked more than hurt and just said "well now we know not to walk into the table, right?" my relatives were trying to get to her and I said NO. Let her get up on her own. She came over and I looked at her head (she was fine) a kiss and a 'be more careful' and she was off. Now she walks into a wall for not paying attention or something looks at me or my hubby and says "It's Ok, I'll be more careful" LOL Chat Icon But the time she messed up her ankle the cry was unique without hesitation I scooped her up and held her close. She hopped on it for awhile before I looked over and said "whats wrong do you need to go potty?" then teh cry and the tears told me it was more. Chat Icon She was literally carried for 6days.

Posted 10/9/12 11:37 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

I don't think you can spoil a baby.

Posted 10/9/12 11:40 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

DS acts the same way. He just turned 7 months actual age 5 months adjusted age.

He doesn't mind the car seat sometimes, but when we are in a place too long he becomes antsy and I take him out to look around and he calms right down. Same thing in a restaurant so now we started traveling with his high chair (top part acts like a booster seat.) He loves it because he can look around and see everything and DH and I can enjoy our dinner!

I bring DS in the kitchen with me while i'm cooking or doing dishes. As logn as he can see me and he doesn't feel alone he's fine. Don't think your spoiling her. DS acts the same way!

Posted 10/9/12 11:59 AM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

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Posted by Xelindrya

nope.. can't spoiled them under 6m IMHO. I carried her with me all the time and never let her cry. She's very independent now and never had any issues 'letting go'.

For me, I figure they only want you for so long.. then they grow up and now she doesnt like me holding her like that at all. Honestly after about 15m she doesnt even like us to carry her. She wants to walk. So cuddle times are all gone.

*shrug*



I agree

I don't believe in CIO that young (or really any age, but I seem to be the minority). They need you.

Enjoy every minute of it because in another few months she is going to want you to put her down and not pick her up.




Agree 1000%

Posted 10/9/12 12:17 PM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

She is still a baby! Pick her up and enjoy the snuggles! Chat Icon

I am a CIO mom. It worked for me and my children, however, I did not start it until they were close to a year old.

Posted 10/9/12 12:45 PM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

Posted by MarisaK

I don't think it's a matter of 'spoiling' as it is getting the baby used to a certain behavoir pattern - She screams her head off, you pick her up and carry her .....

If she's not in pain, not hungry, wet, etc ........and she's just crying b/c she doesn't want to sit in that stroller.....Well, IMHO, too damn bad! You need to get stuff done, she needs to sit in the stroller ......She sits, whether she wants to or not ......

Do you have her in the infant carrier? Maybe put her in the regular stroller so she's facing out into the world (so she can look around etc)



I have to disagree. I personally find this parenting style too harsh. I prefer to investigate why the child is upset. Maybe she wants to explore her surroundings- touch, smell, etc. instead of watching from afar in the stroller. I feel like my kids cry for something (tired, hungry, want to walk, etc.) and I prefer to address it instead of just being like, "do as you're told", which I feel is stifling. It doesn't always work perfect in practice, of course there are times when I'm in a rush and wishing my kids would just sit still in the stroller. We all have different parenting styles though. I am the first to admit that with things like cio (or my lack thereof actually) I feel like I pay a price- having a hard bedtime routine- and also worrying that my kids are/will pay a price if it was better for their development to self soothe.

Posted 10/9/12 1:03 PM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

Posted by Xelindrya

Posted by melonhead

Spoiling a child to me isn't about picking them up when they cry but GIVING into them for stuff, material things, etc.




I agree

Giving into a mother's instinct to want to comfort your child isn't going to spoil them. So what if I'm at my DS's beck and call, I'm his mother, I'm suppose to be there. I put him first above all things in my life...that's just me.

Buying them something everytime you go somewhere or allowing them to eat candy whenever they want etc, this will spoil them.

I'd rather he be spoiled by having me there when he needs me then because I didn't buy him 50 toys for Christmas.

Message edited 10/9/2012 1:35:26 PM.

Posted 10/9/12 1:34 PM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

5 months is still young. I don't think you are spoiling or setting up any bad habits at that age by holding them a lot, or not letting them cry.

I was lucky, in that both of my boys learned early on how to self soothe and fall asleep on their own, and I never had to do CIO or sleep training. My first baby loved to be in a stroller or carseat, bouncy seat, jumperoo, etc, after the initial 12 week fussy period.

My second baby ALWAYS wanted to be held. Even when he was 8 months or so, he would cry when I put him in the exersaucer, on the play mat, etc. Basically whenever I put him down, he fussed until I picked him up (except when he had to sleep, thank Goodness). He didn't like the car seat or stroller either.

But with the second baby, things are different, depending on how much older/independent the sibling is. My second DS had to cry for a few minutes when I put him down to change his big brother's diaper, help him get dressed, bathed, make him meals, etc. So gradually he got used to "hanging out" without me.

Oh- and at almost 2 1/2, he is still a snuggle-bug who loves to stop in the middle of playing and run and give me lots of hugs and kisses!!Chat Icon

Posted 10/9/12 2:01 PM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

Posted by jax1023

I dont think you can spoil an infant. My DS will be 5 months next week, so around the same age. He acts the same way. I think some of it is the start of separation anxiety.

We are like the only culture that forces our children to cry them selves to sleep while alone in their own rooms. And ride in strollers and car seats where they can't see us.

Get a baby carrier for the stores. Its 9 million times easier than a stroller anyway.

If shes like 2 and screams to get what she wants, thats different. But not at this age.



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Posted 10/9/12 2:12 PM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

Posted by lynnd126

Posted by MarisaK

I don't think it's a matter of 'spoiling' as it is getting the baby used to a certain behavoir pattern - She screams her head off, you pick her up and carry her .....

If she's not in pain, not hungry, wet, etc ........and she's just crying b/c she doesn't want to sit in that stroller.....Well, IMHO, too damn bad! You need to get stuff done, she needs to sit in the stroller ......She sits, whether she wants to or not ......

Do you have her in the infant carrier? Maybe put her in the regular stroller so she's facing out into the world (so she can look around etc)



I have to disagree. I personally find this parenting style too harsh. I prefer to investigate why the child is upset. Maybe she wants to explore her surroundings- touch, smell, etc. instead of watching from afar in the stroller. I feel like my kids cry for something (tired, hungry, want to walk, etc.) and I prefer to address it instead of just being like, "do as you're told", which I feel is stifling. It doesn't always work perfect in practice, of course there are times when I'm in a rush and wishing my kids would just sit still in the stroller. We all have different parenting styles though. I am the first to admit that with things like cio (or my lack thereof actually) I feel like I pay a price- having a hard bedtime routine- and also worrying that my kids are/will pay a price if it was better for their development to self soothe.



Right - but reaiistically, sometimes you just don't have the time to stop and let them 'explore their surroundings' - sometimes you have to get them in and out of the store so you can get to the Dr. so you can get to Soccer practice, so you can get to work etc etc. -

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I let my kids scream just b/c I couldn't be bothered to pick them up b/c they didn't NEED to be or b/c I didn't feel like dealing with them just WANTING me !!!! Chat Icon I have rocked them to sleep on ocassion, I have carried them for hours on end when they're having a bad day ....it's just not the constant norm.
I'm saying that IMO if you begin a pattern of behavior that includes indulging the baby every single time he cries then you're not 'spoling' the baby - but you ARE setting their expectations a certain way.

And I think its kind of cruel to behave one way for 1 or 2 years, then suddenly expect the kid to be independent or not get carried around or whatever b/c they're now too big, or b/c there's another baby .......For me, it was just better to set the expectation from the beginning.

Posted 10/9/12 2:41 PM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

Thank you to everyone for your input. She knows that I am going to pick her up when she cries in a certain way. That's ok in my book. I hear many of the examples written...if you pick her up she will be spoiled. Let her cry. I just can't do it.

I do rock her to sleep and will continue to do so because it is soothing for her. She does put herself to sleep for naps and sleeps through the night in her crib.

Just now, I was doing dishes, couldn't get to her while crying and fell asleep. This is after trying to soothe her fussiness all day.

She is a wonderful child and will continue on with what I am doing. Thanks again.

Posted 10/9/12 2:48 PM
 

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Re: Is this a "spoiled child"

I'm so happy this was just posted because I too was recently told I am spoiling my 6 mo old. It was very helpful reading everyone's responses. Can anyone offer some insight if their DC is in daycare though? I worry that I can hold him, soothe him, etc when I'm with him, but I know in a daycare setting he can't always get that attention. Should I maybe adjust what I'm doing so he can adjust to daycare setting better?

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