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Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

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Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Would it deter you if your inspector found this to be the case? Why or why not?

Posted 5/26/10 3:03 PM
 
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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

i would factor it in. if the house had no other issues and its the right price then no but if it was priced on the high side and/or had other issues i would walk.

Posted 5/26/10 3:12 PM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Knowing what I know now...

YES!!!!

We bought a house with a beautiful brand new finished basement.

My MIL was adament they finished the basement because they were hiding something.

They disclosed they never had water issues in the basement.

2 months after we moved in, the basement flooded. And continued to do so every time we had major rain or a snow and then thaw.

We ended up having to put in a french drain and sump pump.

Cost us $11k because we had to basically UN-finish our huge finished basement then re-finish it again.

Posted 5/26/10 3:15 PM
 

Goobster
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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Posted by MrsRbk

Knowing what I know now...

YES!!!!

We bought a house with a beautiful brand new finished basement.

My MIL was adament they finished the basement because they were hiding something.

They disclosed they never had water issues in the basement.

2 months after we moved in, the basement flooded. And continued to do so every time we had major rain or a snow and then thaw.

We ended up having to put in a french drain and sump pump.

Cost us $11k because we had to basically UN-finish our huge finished basement then re-finish it again.




Can you have any recourse against them> That sucks!!! I bet they were hiding something. Isn/t there any recourse regarding that?

But what if in this case the price is deducted from the price we pay? Then what do you think?

Posted 5/26/10 3:17 PM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

It I needed the french drains for poor drainage in my yard and it didn't affect my basement then I wouldn't make a big deal of it. If it did affect my basement then I would ask something be taken off the price of the home to compensate you fixing the problem.

Posted 5/26/10 3:41 PM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Posted by Goobster

Posted by MrsRbk

Knowing what I know now...

YES!!!!

We bought a house with a beautiful brand new finished basement.

My MIL was adament they finished the basement because they were hiding something.

They disclosed they never had water issues in the basement.

2 months after we moved in, the basement flooded. And continued to do so every time we had major rain or a snow and then thaw.

We ended up having to put in a french drain and sump pump.

Cost us $11k because we had to basically UN-finish our huge finished basement then re-finish it again.




Can you have any recourse against them> That sucks!!! I bet they were hiding something. Isn/t there any recourse regarding that?

But what if in this case the price is deducted from the price we pay? Then what do you think?



There is usually no recourse if something does happen because sellers usually sign a form that gives a buyer a $500 credit for this type of scenario.

Posted 5/26/10 3:42 PM
 

MrsRbk
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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Posted by Goobster

Posted by MrsRbk

Knowing what I know now...

YES!!!!

We bought a house with a beautiful brand new finished basement.

My MIL was adament they finished the basement because they were hiding something.

They disclosed they never had water issues in the basement.

2 months after we moved in, the basement flooded. And continued to do so every time we had major rain or a snow and then thaw.

We ended up having to put in a french drain and sump pump.

Cost us $11k because we had to basically UN-finish our huge finished basement then re-finish it again.




Can you have any recourse against them> That sucks!!! I bet they were hiding something. Isn/t there any recourse regarding that?

But what if in this case the price is deducted from the price we pay? Then what do you think?



Unfortunately we had no way of proving the sellers knew of water issues in the basement since it was disclosed that there were none.

Since the basement was newly finished when we had the inspection, the inspector didn't find any evidence of water damage.

Had we known, we probably wouldn't have bought the house.

Posted 5/26/10 3:47 PM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Yes, it did in two cases. When I compared the houses to the one we wound up buying, we felt the better choice was ours.

One of them I posted about here and was pretty bummed out about. Great house but the basement had puddles in it and it hadn't rained for a week. The area had a reputation for a high water table too.

It was just an added concern that we didn't want to deal with if we found something we felt more comfortable with.

Posted 5/26/10 3:47 PM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Posted by JerseyMamaOf2

It I needed the french drains for poor drainage in my yard and it didn't affect my basement then I wouldn't make a big deal of it. If it did affect my basement then I would ask something be taken off the price of the home to compensate you fixing the problem.



Can this happen? Can there only be poor drainage outside and it not come into the home?

This home I am looking at may have this issue, not sure if the basement has been effected.

If what you say is true, then how is that rectified? What can be done outside to improve drainage, if the outside issue hasn't made it's way inside?

Posted 5/26/10 4:33 PM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

is there any evidence of the water coming into the basement? ever?

you would be able to tell...

inspectors say lots of stuff to cover their own butts that may never happen

Posted 5/26/10 4:40 PM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Posted by Beth

is there any evidence of the water coming into the basement? ever?

you would be able to tell...

inspectors say lots of stuff to cover their own butts that may never happen



I thought this too!!!

Posted 5/26/10 4:48 PM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

yes. my friends bought a house in an area where the water table is high (smithtown near the river) and they had to have sump pumps put in, and a few times when the power was out they still flooded. they now have a generator for the pump. the amount of damage and $ they have spent, is very upsetting to me, and I wouldn't buy knowing what they have been through. And the mold issues that could come up on top of that Chat Icon no thanks!

Posted 5/26/10 4:51 PM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

depends how much i loved the house Chat Icon

Posted 5/26/10 4:53 PM
 

Goobster
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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Posted by Beth

is there any evidence of the water coming into the basement? ever?

you would be able to tell...

inspectors say lots of stuff to cover their own butts that may never happen



Not 100% sure. Finished basement that appears to be used alot. Didnt look damaged. Who knows?

Posted 5/26/10 4:58 PM
 

Lauren82
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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Living in a house where there are sump pumps and water issues...yes! We love our house (its a family home and my husband grew up in it) but I can't wait to move! The water has been a huge issue for the past 4 months (since the heavy rains this spring)...we haven't been dry yet, pump has needed to be replaced and pipes rerun, and our neighbor with water problems pumps into our backyard, so now we need to regrade and add drainage pipes to keep our backyard from being a swamp! I want to live in a hilly area where the water table is not an issue!

Posted 5/26/10 5:52 PM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Posted by HeatherRose

yes. my friends bought a house in an area where the water table is high (smithtown near the river) and they had to have sump pumps put in, and a few times when the power was out they still flooded. they now have a generator for the pump. the amount of damage and $ they have spent, is very upsetting to me, and I wouldn't buy knowing what they have been through. And the mold issues that could come up on top of that Chat Icon no thanks!



This is the area that both the houses were in that I was talking about. After the realtor told me about the high water table, I did the responsible thing and researched it. We decided that the chronic issues in the area were something we did not want to deal with and struck the whole area off our list.

This is an eye-opening study that I found. Newsday has articles periodically about the Village of the Branch and Lake Ronkonkoma flood problems too.

It doesn't take much to realize that a lot of these areas should not have been developed in the first place. I don't know why it was allowed, maybe greed or laziness, not considering the impact in decades to come. I read that the County is being pressured to buy these barely inhabitable plots from residential and business owners to prevent future issues. I haven't heard if that's actually happened yet.

Message edited 5/27/2010 8:29:11 AM.

Posted 5/27/10 8:26 AM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

Posted by MrsRbk

Posted by Goobster

Posted by MrsRbk

Knowing what I know now...

YES!!!!

We bought a house with a beautiful brand new finished basement.

My MIL was adament they finished the basement because they were hiding something.

They disclosed they never had water issues in the basement.

2 months after we moved in, the basement flooded. And continued to do so every time we had major rain or a snow and then thaw.

We ended up having to put in a french drain and sump pump.

Cost us $11k because we had to basically UN-finish our huge finished basement then re-finish it again.




Can you have any recourse against them> That sucks!!! I bet they were hiding something. Isn/t there any recourse regarding that?

But what if in this case the price is deducted from the price we pay? Then what do you think?



Unfortunately we had no way of proving the sellers knew of water issues in the basement since it was disclosed that there were none.

Since the basement was newly finished when we had the inspection, the inspector didn't find any evidence of water damage.

Had we known, we probably wouldn't have bought the house.



Could having a first year warranty on the house have helped in this situation? Could it had made the seller responsible for the cost?

Posted 5/27/10 8:29 AM
 

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Re: Would it deter you if a home you saw needed a sump pump or french drain?

yes, we were not willing to take on such projects. We wanted a "move in ready". The house we ended up with needs work, but realistically not thousands of dollars worth.

Posted 5/27/10 8:29 AM
 
 
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