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Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

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MayMommy
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Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

OK I just want to say that I told my MIL not to do these things (walk him around, put him in her bed).

I suffer from mirgraines, so last Wednesday I got layed off from work and of course had one. So MIL said let him sleep over and I agreed (which he has slept over before 'cause of previous mirgrains), anyway. And last week he was really teething bad.

He kept waking up and I guess to comfort him from the teething my SIL walked him around and then he woke up again and my MIL put him in her bed (she has a crib in her room) and slept with the light one.

He slept over only 1 night, so on Friday and Saturday it was pretty much teeth pain DS had and woke up from that gave him tylenol and oralagel.

I told my MIL that she should have done this and she says that oh he's changing. But she's done this with my nephewChat IconChat Icon

Monday through today I don't think it is teeth pain. He would fall asleep on the couch during/after his night bottle. Then I would move him into his cirb without a problem (up until now). Now once I put him in like 20 minutes later his up criying/screaming. I pick him up and bring him back to the couch and he's out and we play this game and he had gotten up a least 3-4 times a night.

Last night I've tried letting him cry it out, but it just got louder and louder and he must have put his hand in his mouth and out of anger/pain?--he bit himself so I went in to see him and I saw blood on he face I was so scared. I took him to the couch and he fell a sleep, I walked him into his room and put him in the crib and duing the night he woke up at at 3:30 a.m. I was so tired I put him in our bed (I know, I know that's a NO NO, but I couldn't get up anymore, but we didn't get any sleep). But he slep the whole night (he moves a lot in his sleep), but slept the whole night.

Help I need suggestions and we need Chat Icon Chat Icon

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Posted 3/11/09 9:55 AM
 
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MayMommy
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

BUMP

anyone?

Do you think he's still teething? What can I do?

Posted 3/11/09 11:40 AM
 

bethsiar
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

Monday through today I don't think it is teeth pain. He would fall asleep on the couch during/after his night bottle. Then I would move him into his cirb without a problem (up until now). Now once I put him in like 20 minutes later his up criying/screaming. I pick him up and bring him back to the couch and he's out and we play this game and he had gotten up a least 3-4 times a night.




This makes me think it is defintely that he is waking up and seeing where he is and not happy. My younger daughter and I are going through the same thing. While she has a tooth just breaking through, I also think she bites her hand out of aggression/frustration.

9-12 months is separation anxiety... perhaps he just wants to be held. Which is not a good habit of course. I am currently having her cry it out. Its been a week and she's going to sleep a lot easier- not even crying and only waking up once a night at 1 or 2 am. I'm hoping that soon enough she will realize that waking up at 2am to have me come in and rub her back isn't worth it and just go back to sleep on her own.

Posted 3/11/09 12:53 PM
 

MayMommy
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

wow -- separation anxiety I didn't know that it could happen at night too.

We have it BIG time----It happened again last night. He fell alseep on the couch for about 1/2 hour and then I put him into his crib and we got 2.5 hours before waking up.

I'm so Chat Icon Chat Icon and I feel so bad for DH has to drive to work

The last hour before waking up I couldn't sneek him around anymore, so I ended up putting him in our bed---I don't want to start this.

But I notice that I positioned pillows around him and he didn't move and thought that I was next to him----Does anyone know if there's a sleep positioner like this that I could put in his crib--and if its safe to do so? At what age is it safe to put a pillow in his crib?

Posted 3/12/09 8:36 AM
 

lululu
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

I stopped trying to figure out why my son was waking up all night long. You can blame it on teeth, gas, hunger, whatever but really it's almost impossible to really figure it out. if you read the book Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child that Dr. believes that they don't even feel pain when teeth break thru. I would recommend reading that book though. I think you just need to let your son cry it out. the biting thing is a little scary though - i would have completely freaked out.

Posted 3/12/09 8:44 AM
 

MayMommy
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

Posted by lululu

I stopped trying to figure out why my son was waking up all night long. You can blame it on teeth, gas, hunger, whatever but really it's almost impossible to really figure it out. if you read the book Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child that Dr. believes that they don't even feel pain when teeth break thru. I would recommend reading that book though. I think you just need to let your son cry it out. the biting thing is a little scary though - i would have completely freaked out.



Well he didn't bit last night. I got him to sleep but woke up in 10 minutes.

But I can't let him cry it out (I let him do it when I was "training" him at 3 months and it worked. But these cries are more like SCREAMS and DH and tenants won't be able to sleep.

Message edited 3/12/2009 8:51:44 AM.

Posted 3/12/09 8:51 AM
 

momdal
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

I’m not sure if I missed it but how was he before he slept at your MIL’s house? Did he sleep thru the night? He could just need reminder of the routine he had before. My DS slept in bed with us half the night for over a year. He has been in his crib sleeping thru the night for several months. A couple of weeks ago he was sick and we needed to take his temp and give him meds in the middle of the night for 2 nights in a row. After that he wanted to, he held to fall asleep again. I took him 3-4 days to get back to the routine he had before.

We did not use CIO to get him to fall asleep on his own and stay asleep all night. We did a gradual process where we stayed with him in his room less and less and we started a routine. I am more then happy to share with you what we did just let me know.

I hope you all get sleep tonight I know how you feel.

Posted 3/12/09 9:16 AM
 

MrsSteflily
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

DD was doing this last week (she's 9 1/2 months).

I am guessing she had a growth spurt because she needed a bottle but she would not go back to sleep afterwards unless I held her.

I had to CIO for the first time. Once I fed her and changed her, I would lay her down. The first night she cried for an hour. The second for 30 minutes and third night, by the time I walked back into my bedroom she was asleep.

She woke up for a bottle two more nights after that with no problems and now she is back to sleeping through the night.

The added benefit to CIO, was now she sleeps very good for naps once we lay her down.

Chat Icon It's so hard to figure out what the right thing to do for them is.Chat Icon

Posted 3/12/09 9:49 AM
 

lululu
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

Honestly - I would let him cry it out. My son screams too - believe me there is nothing at all wrong with him except that he wants to see us. It sounds different than when he was three months old because he is bigger now, more aware of his world, and more determined to get you back in there.

Posted 3/12/09 10:18 AM
 

LuvPregnancy
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

I understand your position. Although I don't have issues with him at night (most of the time). I cannot get him to nap anywhere but right next to me on the couch and as soon as he falls asleep and I try to transfer him he wakes up. I let him CIO, but he seems to never stop crying. So I don't know what to do. I want him to nap in the crib, but if I let him CIO he doesn't nap. Also, I can't put him in his crib to fall asleep cuz he cries (or sreams more like it) til someone comes to get him. Since he was little he falls alseep on mr or my husband and then transfer him. He is going to be 1 and I would love it if her could fall asleep in the crib on his own.

Hopefully, I will learn from my mistakes.

I would say keep letting them CIO. Make them do it longer and longer each night before you go get them.

Wish I was more helpful! I hope my story makes you feel a little better. We all have our issues with sleeping.Chat Icon

Posted 3/12/09 12:17 PM
 

MayMommy
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

Posted by lululu

It sounds different than when he was three months old because he is bigger now, more aware of his world, and more determined to get you back in there.



I agree with you in regards to this. We tried the CIO, but it was an hour. I couldn't do it anymore.

I picked him and put him on the couch where he then fell alseep a few minutes later. I put him in his crib and an only got 1/2 hour out of him. We went back on the couch and he fell asleep almost immediately so I keep him on the couch longer and we got 2 hours out of him and did the same again 2 hours later.

Posted 3/13/09 10:02 AM
 

MayMommy
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

Posted by momdal

I’m not sure if I missed it but how was he before he slept at your MIL’s house? Did he sleep thru the night? He could just need reminder of the routine he had before. My DS slept in bed with us half the night for over a year. He has been in his crib sleeping thru the night for several months. A couple of weeks ago he was sick and we needed to take his temp and give him meds in the middle of the night for 2 nights in a row. After that he wanted to, he held to fall asleep again. I took him 3-4 days to get back to the routine he had before.

We did not use CIO to get him to fall asleep on his own and stay asleep all night. We did a gradual process where we stayed with him in his room less and less and we started a routine. I am more then happy to share with you what we did just let me know.

I hope you all get sleep tonight I know how you feel.



Anytime he was home he fell a sleep on the couch (around 10:00/10:30 p.m.) and move him into his crib and didn't hear him until I woke up the next morning around 8:30 a.m.

He slept throught the whole night.

Oh thank you, yes that would be helpful if you can share your routine. FM me if you like. Chat Icon

Message edited 3/13/2009 10:15:20 AM.

Posted 3/13/09 10:15 AM
 

momdal
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Re: Need Help (a little long): DS (10 months) waking up at night -- Help in breaking bad habit-sleeping your bed

I’ve sent you FM … thought I would post a much condensed version here.

We eased my son into falling asleep in his crib and staying there. We started a bedtime routine, which we did not have before. Bottle, brush teeth, pj’s in crib with book. At first, we would stay with him holding his hand lying on the floor of his room. When he woke multiple times at night, we would hold his hand and lie down. This lasted 4 nights then I think he realized we were not taking him out of the crib so he only woke once at night. Then after about a month, he slept thru the night consistently. We then eased out of staying with him to fall asleep. We would leave him to “read” his book by himself. When he called for me, I would go in and turn the lights out and then I eased out of staying in the room with him. After a few weeks, he would fall asleep on his own and only call for us occasionally. This process is not fast it takes time. I felt since he only new falling asleep next to or with someone it would be a big shock to have him fall asleep and stay asleep all night by himself. I wanted it to be a gradual transition. I did read the no cry sleep solution and another book and kind of combine ideas and spent time thinking how we could ease him into a good sleep habit. Also it was key that my DH was on board. I would suggest that no matter what methods you decide to go with make sure before you MIL watches you DS again she agrees to follow your plan or at least a few key parts of it.

Good luck and feel free to ask any questions. I hope you find something that works for you and your family.

Posted 3/13/09 12:18 PM
 
 

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