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Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

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NervousNell
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Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

I know everybody says no, but something is up with my DD.
She is only quiet, only happy when she is being held.
Not just held though- held and walked around. The SECOND we put her down in a swing, bouncy seat, whatever, she starts to scream. The SECOND we pick her up- a switch turns off and she is silent. Laughing, giggling etc. If I sit on the couch with her on my lap- she starts up again- she only wants to be walked around.

It is SO hard on us. We can't get anythign done when we are home with her.
I actually look forward to the days I go to work and she goes to daycare- as sad as that is- because we just need a break.
She will be 4 months old soon- is this just a phase? She really has been like this since she was born but back then I chalked it up to- she's a newborn baby, she needs to be held to feel safe and secure.
But is she spoiled now?
How can we break her of this?
We just tried putting her down in her bouncy and she screamed. I told DH- let her cry- lets see how long- it went on for over 15 minutes until it was to the point she was screeching like someone was murdering her and in such a frenzy we had to pick her up.
The SECOND we did- she went from SCREAMING to quiet.

Please help!!

Posted 10/18/10 10:43 AM
 
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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

I think that 4 months old is the age where they realize that you are leaving the room/not in front of them. I've noticed DD doing the same thing, that she wants to be in view of me or DH at all times.

I'm not sure of the picking up part, but I'm sure she is getting used to you picking her up. I would probably start not picking her up, but being in front of her telling her she's ok and playing with her. She'll eventually learn that you aren't going to pick her up constantly.Chat Icon

Posted 10/18/10 10:46 AM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

DS was the same exact way. Start wearing her. It was the only way I got anything done.

Around 6 months old is when I started to "train" ds to play by himself. Now he is great at it.

It can be SO SO SO hard to deal with this type of baby. It will get better though. I promise. Chat Icon

Posted 10/18/10 10:47 AM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

DD is almost 5 months old and does the same thing. Sometimes she is content to play on the floor by herself. Sometimes she cries and won't stop until we pick her up. We also can't just pick her up and sit on the couch. We have to pick her up and stand. I don't know what it is.

There are times when I just let her cry because I have to do other things. I don't know if you spoil a baby by picking her up. I just think that you should continue to do what you need to do. Your DD will survive waiting until you are able to pick her up again. Mine does.

I have to say though that it is tough to watch her cry, especially when I see little tears forming Chat Icon

Posted 10/18/10 10:50 AM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 was sooooo spoiled.
I had nothing going on with my life at all and really loved holding him.
yeah...could not be put down for 8 months!
did not sleep, would not eat, would not go in swing, bouncer, carseat.
would scream and rip out his hair!

jessie met the swing instantly. lol...much better baby

Posted 10/18/10 10:53 AM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

Posted by katiebug

DS was the same exact way. Start wearing her. It was the only way I got anything done.

Around 6 months old is when I started to "train" ds to play by himself. Now he is great at it.

It can be SO SO SO hard to deal with this type of baby. It will get better though. I promise. Chat Icon



This is good to hear. I figure that by the time she is old enough to understand toys and playing that maybe she will be able to entertain herself and not need us so much.
Right now is a rough age- she's too old to just lay there or sleep all day- but too young to understand toys, videos, etc...

Posted 10/18/10 11:39 AM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

Posted by NYimport

DD is almost 5 months old and does the same thing. Sometimes she is content to play on the floor by herself. Sometimes she cries and won't stop until we pick her up. We also can't just pick her up and sit on the couch. We have to pick her up and stand. I don't know what it is.

There are times when I just let her cry because I have to do other things. I don't know if you spoil a baby by picking her up. I just think that you should continue to do what you need to do. Your DD will survive waiting until you are able to pick her up again. Mine does.

I have to say though that it is tough to watch her cry, especially when I see little tears forming Chat Icon



Yes! We have started to do this.
A lot of the time she is just fussing and whining. Then sometimes it turns into real crying, real tears, and then bloody murder screaming and screeching.
I have become much better at tuning it out then I used to be- and just doing what I have to do at the moment and letting her cry.
But this morning I timed it- I said ok I'll give her 15 min to cry and see if she calms herself down...15 min of screaming like I have never heard- like someone was cutting her throat- she was in such a frenzy.
So we finally picked her up- silence.
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It has to get better! I keep telling myself that!

Posted 10/18/10 11:41 AM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

I really don't think so.

AT 4 months old they are still soooo tiny... they're just STARTING to be able to hold toys, interact, etc. They're only just realizing that they're separate from you and she probably doesn't like it much.

My DD wanted to be held a lot at that age. By about 6 months it was a lot easier to put her down and let her play with her toys. At 4 months it was just not happening.

Posted 10/18/10 11:43 AM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

Posted by katiebug

DS was the same exact way. Start wearing her. It was the only way I got anything done.

Around 6 months old is when I started to "train" ds to play by himself. Now he is great at it.

It can be SO SO SO hard to deal with this type of baby. It will get better though. I promise. Chat Icon



I had the same experience with DS as well. I really thought I was in trouble because he couldn't entertain himself more than a minute or two, whether it be in his jumperoo, bouncer, swing, exersaucer, etc. unless we were outside (like at a park). Now at 7 months, he'll play by himself for a good 15 minutes before he starts getting antsy.

Posted 10/18/10 11:55 AM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

I remember being told and thinking that a newborn/infant cannot be spoiled. At some point, we knew we were spoiling DS. He was held throughout his ENTIRE first year of his life. We rocked and cuddled him to sleep everyday.

Our second child is going to learn to CIO early on...I think around 4m is the norm?

Posted 10/18/10 12:01 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

i hate when people call babies spoiled Chat Icon

they love you and want you there.. you're a comfort to them...they get spoiled when they are toddler aged, IMO

but i know it's still hard..Chat Icon

Message edited 10/18/2010 12:03:13 PM.

Posted 10/18/10 12:02 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

I agree with the PP- around 4 months- they are aware and can test you. Especially if she immediately quiets down when you pick her up.

My 5 month old is like this. He is getting much better though. When he was younger- he also had to be held all the time, and we often had to stand up and hold him- when we were sooo tired and just wanted to sit. Chat Icon

I just starting leave him to cry/fuss in his bouncy seat, playmat. Now, he is in his jumperoo or exersaucer a lot. I have a 2 year old and often I just HAD to let the baby cry- had to do something for older DS or cook, etc.

I think has learned to soothe and entertain himself better now. When he acts like he constantly needs to be held, it is only if he is overtired or teething (two broke through already).

As he gets older, I would let him fuss a bit, try the Exersaucer or Jumperoo if the head and neck control are good. I think our baby likes those better because he can see what is going on more.Chat Icon

Hang in there- I know it is tiring!!!

Posted 10/18/10 12:09 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

I think so. DD is 2m and when I walk into the room she will go from fussing to full on crying and then silent when I get her.

I know TV is the devil but for your own sanity, have you tried it?

Posted 10/18/10 12:09 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

this can be tough! what about if you lay her on a play mat surrounded by toys...sit with her and hover over her, playing and smiling. let her know you're there...and then walk away for a minute, come back and hover again with playing. just so she knows you're around but not necessarily by her side.

Posted 10/18/10 12:14 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

I swear my 4.5 month old is catching on to things! I just this week started to let her whine a little bit in her crib (not really CIO) before I go in there. I will first try rubbing her back etc before I pick her up, because the SECOND I pick her up she is all smiles. Little bugger!

I'm definitely noticing a difference in her cries/whines. Real crying...she is picked up/attended to immediately. Whining...I let her go a little bit. Chat Icon

Posted 10/18/10 12:24 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

Posted by jtotheo

this can be tough! what about if you lay her on a play mat surrounded by toys...sit with her and hover over her, playing and smiling. let her know you're there...and then walk away for a minute, come back and hover again with playing. just so she knows you're around but not necessarily by her side.



I def agree with this. We do this and DD seems to enjoy playing alone more if we just come down to her level once in a while, then leave her alone with her toys.

Posted 10/18/10 12:25 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

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I think so. DD is 2m and when I walk into the room she will go from fussing to full on crying and then silent when I get her.

I know TV is the devil but for your own sanity, have you tried it?



She does like the TV- we got her a Baby Einstein video.
It keeps her quiet for about 15 min if she is in the mood. Less if she isn't.
We try to get everything done as quickly as possible during the times where she can be distracted.
I am thinking as she gets older her attention span might be better and that might help matters.
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Posted 10/18/10 1:08 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

I don't think it's being spoiled. rather, I think that your LO has figured what she prefers. She draws comfort from being held. Some babies just need more cuddles than others.

At her age it's OK to let them fuss for a bit, even full out cry while you do other things you need to do. See if she settles down after a few minutes, if not then get her. Over time the amount of time she'll hang out by herself will get longer and longer.

How's her trunk control? At 4 months my second DD was able to go into the exercauser- which was a GODSEND.

Posted 10/18/10 1:13 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

Posted by Porrruss

I don't think it's being spoiled. rather, I think that your LO has figured what she prefers. She draws comfort from being held. Some babies just need more cuddles than others.

At her age it's OK to let them fuss for a bit, even full out cry while you do other things you need to do. See if she settles down after a few minutes, if not then get her. Over time the amount of time she'll hang out by herself will get longer and longer.

How's her trunk control? At 4 months my second DD was able to go into the exercauser- which was a GODSEND.



She does have great head and trunk control. She tried an exersaucer at daycare and did well in it- but the teacher said she lost interest in about 15 min or so becuase at her age she doesn't quite get how to play with the toys.
We have one that I am going to set up soon- I am hoping as she gets a BIT older she will understand the toys and maybe that will help!

Posted 10/18/10 1:14 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

Posted by jtotheo

this can be tough! what about if you lay her on a play mat surrounded by toys...sit with her and hover over her, playing and smiling. let her know you're there...and then walk away for a minute, come back and hover again with playing. just so she knows you're around but not necessarily by her side.



Yes I do notice that if she is in her bouncy or swing or on a playmat and I sit right there, she is fine.
But she is so funny- if I look away for a bit- like if I'm working on my laptop- she will fuss. I'll look back over and talk to her- and she smiles..
She's a rip!

Posted 10/18/10 1:15 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

Imo, No.

they are still so little and if they are crying, it's for a reason.

And just FWIW, I miss the days when DD would get her little head right inside my neck. She was so content right there, just being so close to me.

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Posted 10/18/10 1:16 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

I never "spoiled" DS so I'm not sure. I never rocked him to sleep and I put him down a lot. I started working from home when he was 2 weeks old.
Around 10 months he started to show a little separation anxiety and would leave my side but when he was younger he had no problems. I would just feed him his bottle and put him in his crib and he would go right to sleep at night.

Posted 10/18/10 1:17 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

Posted by dita

I never "spoiled" DS so I'm not sure. I never rocked him to sleep and I put him down a lot. I started working from home when he was 2 weeks old.
Around 10 months he started to show a little separation anxiety and would leave my side but when he was younger he had no problems. I would just feed him his bottle and put him in his crib and he would go right to sleep at night.



I always wish I could have done this- but right from the start- we would put her down and she would scream.
We would leave her in her crib- she would scream.
We were in survival mode at that point- and just did anythign to quiet her down for our own sanity.
She was not an easy baby from the start- so I feel like we might have spoiled her just to keep her quiet and happy- but I don't even know.

Posted 10/18/10 1:22 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

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Posted by dita

I never "spoiled" DS so I'm not sure. I never rocked him to sleep and I put him down a lot. I started working from home when he was 2 weeks old.
Around 10 months he started to show a little separation anxiety and would leave my side but when he was younger he had no problems. I would just feed him his bottle and put him in his crib and he would go right to sleep at night.



I always wish I could have done this- but right from the start- we would put her down and she would scream.
We would leave her in her crib- she would scream.
We were in survival mode at that point- and just did anythign to quiet her down for our own sanity.
She was not an easy baby from the start- so I feel like we might have spoiled her just to keep her quiet and happy- but I don't even know.



It doesn't sound like you spoiled her then, those were just her needs. DS was just a really easy baby... in that aspect anyway. Just don't get me started on diaper changes. Chat Icon

Posted 10/18/10 1:28 PM
 

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Re: Let's be honest- CAN a 4 month old be spoiled?

No I dont think so.

Posted 10/18/10 1:39 PM
 
 

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