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I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

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MrsRivera
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I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Before I begin--because I have been burned in the past:

DISCLAIMER: I am asking for advice. I am not looking for people to tell me that I am a terrible person because I am upset about this. If you are going to flame me because you don't agree with the way I am reacting to this situation, you can go ahead and keep that to yourself because I am not interested in your opinions about my thoughts or actions.

On the other hand, if you have something I can try and would like to try to HELP rather than throw nasty posts at me, I would greatly appreciate your help!

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Ok, now for my actual post Chat Icon

My Mom's cat has been living with us since this past October. My mom moved down in November, and has been staying with us since then until she finds her own place in NC.

I was nervous about my mom's cat coming here, because she is EXTREMELY territorial and tends to feel threatened easily. She used to pee all over my mom's living room in her house in NY, and it was always when she saw another cat outside the house...she even peed ON my mom one time while she was being held and she saw another cat.

The reason I was so nervous about her cat living here was because we have our own cat. We thought they wouldn't get along and Doodle (my mom's cat) would start peeing all over. I am thrilled to say that the two of them get along FAMOUSLY and we have had ZERO problems with Doodle until very recently.

Fast-forward to about a month ago. My mom left for CA to spend 2 months with my sister and her kids out there. She left her cat here (obviously). The very same day that my mom left for CA, we came back from dropping her at the airport, and found that one of the cats had peed AND pooped next to the window in the living room. I didn't know for sure that it was Doodle. So that night, we locked Doodle up in the guest room (where my mom was staying). We did that for several nights in a row, and there were no more accidents. However, the very first night that we left her out again, we woke up to find MORE pee and MORE poop by the window.

By this point, I am flipping out. I will admit that I took her to the vet hoping to find that something was wrong with her, because at least then we'd have an explanation. There WAS something wrong with her, she had a very bad UTI. I was relieved. We gave her antibiotics for 10 days and just had her retested last week. No signs of the UTI and she's been seeming as though she's feeling better.

I assumed the problem was behind us, because that was 2 weeks ago and nothing has happened since.

I woke up this morning to find pee and poop, again in the SAME place in the living room.

I am going to lose my mind. My daughter, who is 7 months, is up on her hands and knees and beginning to scoot backwards. I give her approx. 2 weeks before she is full-on CRAWLING. I absolutely WILL NOT take the chance that she's crawling in this cat's filth.

With that said, here's what we have tried so far:

1. We tried putting down bubble wrap all along that wall. She pooped right NEXT to it.

2. We tried steam-cleaning the carpet with pet-odor solution, thinking she wouldn't smell it and wouldn't go again. THAT didn't work because the smell does NOT come out, no matter what we do.

3. We thought maybe she was having trouble getting to her litterbox (upstairs). We left it downstairs in the livingroom for almost a week. She stopped using that litterbox and started using OUR cat's litterbox, which was located right next to hers in the laundry room upstairs. So, we moved her litterbox back upstairs. It had been untouched downstairs. The next morning, she pooped in the exact spot that the litterbox had been.

4. When Doodle WAS using the litterbox, we found that she was missing the box completely and we would find cat pee all over the floor underneath and around the box. We recently switched her to a covered litterbox. I took some of the "clumps" from her old litterbox and put them in the new box so she would know to go there.

So, here's where we are at right now: I am ready to call my mom and tell her that either she needs to come back and bring the cat back to CA with her (she's gone until the end of Sept.), or we need to board the cat for 2 months until she comes back. I know that with either solution, she will not be happy.

I need to have my house back. I am so embarrassed--we can't have friends over because of the smell. I recently joined a playgroup, and we've been to everyone else's house except mine. I was asked to host, but I had to make up an excuse because I'm too embarrassed to tell them the REAL reason I can't have them over.

Please help, I have tried everything I can think of and at this point, I feel I have given her enough chances and I just want her OUT.

If you have read this far, I TRULY appreciate it and I appreciate any advice you can give me Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/21/09 10:24 AM
 
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MeeshMosh
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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

i would suggest getting the plug in thing that releases a comforting scent that is supossed to sooth the cat

also -- do you clean her litter box everyday? some cats can be spiteful and just pee and poo anywhere they want if their box isnt cleaned enough to their liking

i would also try to think about ANYTHING else that could have possibly changed (besides your mom leaving for CA) that may have sparked the behavior regression.... it seems so weird that Doodles was behaving great and then just started doing it all over again -- esp since you checked her out at the vet and shes okay

OR -- this would be my last last attempt before resorting to your 2 choices.... why not leave her locked in one room with her litter box, food and water while you arent home... you said she did good while she was enclosed to one room all day -- or do you have a basement or other room where you can close off a section that is just for Doodles??

Posted 7/21/09 10:43 AM
 

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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Posted by MeeshMosh

OR -- this would be my last last attempt before resorting to your 2 choices.... why not leave her locked in one room with her litter box, food and water while you arent home... you said she did good while she was enclosed to one room all day -- or do you have a basement or other room where you can close off a section that is just for Doodles??



I was going to suggest this as well.
I have done it before.
It seems like you are down to your last nerve- and understandably- I'd be upset as well.
If this is the only thing that works, then so be it....

Keep us posted!

Posted 7/21/09 10:54 AM
 

MrsRivera
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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Thank you both for the advice, it is greatly appreciated! Chat Icon

We can (and do sometimes) keep her confined to the guest room. We do not have a basement. The only issue that comes into play is when we actually have guests, which will be the case next week.

We also had agreed when we first moved in that the guest room would be a "cat-free zone", since my FIL is very allergic. So much for that Chat Icon

I really am down to my last nerve. We've already had to replace carpet in other areas of our 2 year-old house because of this very issue.

I love my cats, please don't misunderstand me...but I think one has to be rich to love this particular cat, because it involves a constant state of house remodeling. Chat Icon

Posted 7/21/09 12:33 PM
 

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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

When she did this before was it in the same spot by the window?

Posted 7/21/09 12:58 PM
 

MrsRivera
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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Posted by SweetTooth

When she did this before was it in the same spot by the window?



Yes...within about 6" of the same spot.

This has happened...oh, I don't know, about 8 times? I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt that maybe she was losing control of her functions (she's 11 years old), but I think I'd be finding it all over the house in that case, and not just in that spot, you know? I think this is to be spiteful, because she also won't do it until we a) leave the house or b) go to bed. I should also add that my DH works from home and I am a teacher off for the summer, so we are home for a good chunk of the day. It never happens then.

I just priced out new carpet for my livingroom and it is going to run me right around $1500 with installation Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/21/09 3:22 PM
 

Diana712
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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Do you think the UTI came back???

Posted 7/21/09 3:43 PM
 

MrsRivera
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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Posted by dilb712

Do you think the UTI came back???



We had her urine tested again right before we left on vacation (about 3 weeks ago) and she came back completely clean.

Posted 7/21/09 10:46 PM
 

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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Another thing I thought of- have you tried covering that one spot she does it on with foil?
I have read that cats don't like the feel of foil and won't pee on it.

I am just wondering if you did that though- would she just pick a new spot to pee you think?

It's just odd to me that she choses that one spot over and over- and it's probably because she smells the old urine- so what if you covered it with foil?

Posted 7/22/09 9:53 AM
 

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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

I would keep her in your mom's room.
If she's not having accidents in there, that seems like the best place for her.

If she's done this 8 times, it doesn't seem she will stop (atleast to me).
Seems behaviorial, the cat may be upset that your mom left.

After my mother died, my dog was peeing in the same spot in the living room carpet. Dog never had accidents, obviously behavioral.


As for next week, I would buy a large crate and keep her in there during the night time when your guests are over.







Message edited 7/22/2009 10:32:03 AM.

Posted 7/22/09 10:25 AM
 

MrsRivera
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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Posted by anonttcer

Another thing I thought of- have you tried covering that one spot she does it on with foil?
I have read that cats don't like the feel of foil and won't pee on it.

I am just wondering if you did that though- would she just pick a new spot to pee you think?

It's just odd to me that she choses that one spot over and over- and it's probably because she smells the old urine- so what if you covered it with foil?



See, this is what is so frustrating...I didn't try foil, but I got bubble wrap because I read that cats don't like the popping noise. I got 2 rolls and lined the entire length of the window (about 12 ft.) 2 rows deep.

She pooped IN FRONT of it!!!!! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Here's the weird thing though...I don't think she pees there anymore. These last few times, I only found poop, no fresh pee (the smell always gives it away).

I'm just DONE. Yesterday my DD finally scooted forward a few inches. She's going to crawl any day now. I can't even allow her in the living room right now Chat Icon

Posted 7/23/09 8:07 AM
 

MrsRivera
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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Posted by sleepie76

I would keep her in your mom's room.
If she's not having accidents in there, that seems like the best place for her.

If she's done this 8 times, it doesn't seem she will stop (atleast to me).
Seems behaviorial, the cat may be upset that your mom left.

After my mother died, my dog was peeing in the same spot in the living room carpet. Dog never had accidents, obviously behavioral.


As for next week, I would buy a large crate and keep her in there during the night time when your guests are over.




I definitely think she's upset about my mom leaving.

I kinda wondered if it was mean to keep her locked up by herself in the bedroom all the time...I don't know.

I am just at the end of my rope. This isn't even MY cat!!!!

Posted 7/23/09 8:09 AM
 

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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Have you spoken to the vet about the behavior?

Sometimes animals have enough anxiety to warrant medication.

I personally know of folks who had to give their animals doggie/kitty prozac to help with a behavioral situation.

Worth a try?

Posted 7/24/09 10:41 AM
 

MrsRivera
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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Posted by Blu-ize

Have you spoken to the vet about the behavior?

Sometimes animals have enough anxiety to warrant medication.

I personally know of folks who had to give their animals doggie/kitty prozac to help with a behavioral situation.

Worth a try?



Hmm...you know, I have heard about it, but I never really thought much about it. I will definitely ask the vet about it.

I hate having to lock her up where she can't be around us. But I guess it's better than me coming down every morning and swearing all over again that the cat has got to go...

Posted 7/24/09 6:00 PM
 

Blu-ize
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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Posted by MrsRivera

Posted by Blu-ize

Have you spoken to the vet about the behavior?

Sometimes animals have enough anxiety to warrant medication.

I personally know of folks who had to give their animals doggie/kitty prozac to help with a behavioral situation.

Worth a try?



Hmm...you know, I have heard about it, but I never really thought much about it. I will definitely ask the vet about it.

I hate having to lock her up where she can't be around us. But I guess it's better than me coming down every morning and swearing all over again that the cat has got to go...



Good luck! Let us know what the vet says.

I think it's worth a try before doing something drastic. Poor kitty. (and poor you and your carpet!) I totally know what you're going through. I've replaced many carpets over the years.

Posted 7/26/09 3:06 PM
 

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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

I'm sorry you're having such trouble with the kitty. They can be so stubborn. I had a similar problem with our cat a few years ago. Hrere's a link to what we bought.
SSScat

It a can of air called sssscat. It sprays a shot of air when it detects motion. It did the trick for us. It isn't messy, can't harm the kitty or children. You don't even notice it, except when you walk by it and set it off yourself...not funny. Good luck.

Posted 7/27/09 6:14 AM
 

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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Have you thought about putting her food in the area where she is going to the bathroom? That may deter her till your mom gets home. Also, as someone else mentioned I've heard that using foil deters cats because they don't like the sound. HTH

Posted 7/27/09 7:39 PM
 

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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

It seems to me that the cat is having separation anxiety issues since your mom left. I would suggest keeping the cat in your mom's room at night and when you aren't home. When your mom gets back- tell her they have to go.

Posted 7/29/09 11:25 AM
 

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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

I agree with the PP that mentioned seperation anxiety. Do you think maybe she's more comfortable in the guest room because your mom's "scent" may still be in there? I know when I moved out my cat stayed with my parents, and she would curl up onto one of the blankets I left behind. I would keep her confined to the guest room and then worry about cleaning it from top to bottom for your FIL when the time comes.

Posted 7/29/09 4:00 PM
 

MrsRivera
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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Posted by JennyPenny

It seems to me that the cat is having separation anxiety issues since your mom left. I would suggest keeping the cat in your mom's room at night and when you aren't home. When your mom gets back- tell her they have to go.



This is what we've been doing the last week or so and it has been working. I even found a shirt of my mom's that she hadn't washed yet, and left it on the bed for her to snuggle with.

I just hate to keep her isolated, but it's gotten to the point where our living room carpet is SO disgusting.

Posted 7/29/09 6:10 PM
 

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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

It sounds like keeping him apart is the best thing. I am glad that it seems to be working! Chat Icon

Don't worry too much about your parents group... just tell them you are watching your mom's cat and sometimes he has accidents so you'd rather not have anyone over until your mom comes back.

Posted 7/31/09 4:52 PM
 

MrsRivera
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Re: I REALLY need some cat-related advice (extremely LONG)

Posted by LINewbie

It sounds like keeping him apart is the best thing. I am glad that it seems to be working! Chat Icon

Don't worry too much about your parents group... just tell them you are watching your mom's cat and sometimes he has accidents so you'd rather not have anyone over until your mom comes back.



Thanks Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

We've had her staying in the guest room by herself for the past week. She is always THRILLED to see me when I come in, but I'm sorry to say that with the baby, and everything else I have to do, I only get in there once a day for a few minutes. It's so much easier to see her and give her the attention she needs when she can just jump up on my lap while we're watching tv...

I just hope she's not too lonely in there. I do think she's happy to be away from our cat, but I know she's probably not happy that she's away from us. Chat Icon

Posted 8/2/09 8:21 PM
 
 

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