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Re: Covid at home test kits
The way I see it...there are 2 roads home. It's been cold and wet so there is a possibility of black ice. One road is sanded and salted, the other one is not but it gets you home 10 minutes quicker. Which one do you take? The likelihood of getting in to an accident and getting hurt or dying because of the black ice is a very small percentage but you get home earlier. Do you take that road and take the chance? Or do you go with the sanded and salted road and get home a little later because even though the chance of an accident caused from black ice is so small; why take the risk?
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Re: Covid at home test kits
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The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
My friend who is a nurse is so sick, she couldn’t go to urgent care around us because all of them are so over booked with people getting tested due to exposure. She had to go to Newark and is still waiting 5 days for her PCR results because they are so backed up. She also had to wait hours to get antibiotics. It’s really ridiculous. She is actually sick and can’t get help or the results she needs because of the hysterics.
She also said her doctors said the flu is horrible this year, crazy bad strain. She thinks she has the flu because the rapid was negative but she wants to confirm.
Sorry but this post makes no sense. Your friend is sick so she needs to get tested but others who are also sick should not get tested? She add already tested negative but wants yet another test to confirm? If the flu is horrible this year perhaps many of those other people were as sick as she was with that flu? She had to wait hours at the pharmacy for antibiotics? Why— because other folks who are also sick needed antibiotics?
And you just said you took your son to be tested because he was exposed. Yet you are criticizing others trying to be tested due to exposure?
Obviously you struggle with reading comprehension. I said I didn’t take my son to get tested because the lines were long and to get an appointment were insane. And since I saw the madness I didn’t bother, therefore not taking the opportunity from someone who is sick. I know how to read the room and the situation unlike many people in this world.
And I also never said people who aren’t sick shouldn’t get tested or treatment at urgent care or the doctors. Please show where I said that. I actually agreed with naturalmama.
Secondly, my friend took a rapid test which is not the same as a regular test. Duh. As a nurse and student she needs a negative test from one that is not rapid. This is not breaking news. No one ever said all the people who were sick were sick with Covid. I know I never did as I don’t believe everything is Covid. I’m not stupid. If anything I think it is the flu. And AGAIN I never said she waited at the pharmacy for antibiotic, she had to wait to be seen at the urgent care because she is sick and needed antibiotics. Further proving my point that morons who aren’t sick and just want to know are taking up resources for those who need to be seen by doctors. Like my friend and anyone else who is sick. I never said she was special, I was giving an example. Learn to read and stop making sh!t up and questioning things I never said.
What the fuq is your point in any of your questions?
ETA: also by the way when I get my son tested it’s at the CVS drove thru. I don’t take him to the urgent care or wait on long lines. I also never have take an opportunity from someone to see a doctor because my son was getting tested.
My reading is fine…your writing just does not always make sense. You contradict yourself in the above so perhaps my questions were based on trying to understand wtf you are trying to say.
They also stemmed from frustration at the nasty, condescending attitude you and some others on here have. People who were exposed but are “not sick” want to know because they may still be positive and spread it to others. And those others may get “get sick” with symptoms and wind up clogging up more urgent cares, doctors offices, etc. They may also get others sick who will also need resources. What will it take to make you people understand this??
This very thing just happened with several people I know. It ran the gamut from asymptomatic, to mild symptoms, to elderly family members who got really sick from the person they live with would not test— despite being exposed- because THEY were “not sick.”
Some of the “morons” you refer to may also be in need of a test to confirm for work or school…just like your friend. So yes it it not always covid (DUH)… but sometimes it IS and some people are trying to do the right thing by testing I if they were exposed—even if they are not visibly sick— so they can let those who were around them know. But keep calling everyone a moron, hysterical, etc.
And with that, I will go back to bed since covid is currently kicking my and DH’s asses!!!
Uggh sorry to hear but aren’t you vaccinated? Maybe even boostered?
How many shots do you think you will have to take before the virus won’t kick your ass?
OMG. A simple “get well soon” too much for you????
Lucky, so sorry to hear you are feeling rough! Hope you feel better soon.
Yes, let’s sweep this all under the rug.
Sounds like she is worse off than the simple cold that we are being told with the vaccine you will get. Only the unvaccinated will get it bad. Hmmmmmm
Being vaccinated helps you not die. Being vaccinated helps to not be hospitalized. So having CoVid and being vaccinated and boosted doesn’t mean you aren’t sick- it means you’re not likely to die.
As it is without the vaccine, the percentage for not dying is quite high, 99.8 % I believe. So how much more can a vaccine really help u not to die? I think it has to do more with faith in a product when in reality I don’t really need it to help me get over this virus without dying. Also the majority of cases have been asymptomatic and mild cases and this is without the vaccine and as time progresses it has been less and less, typical course of a virus.
I agree. Everyone keeps saying I'm vaccinated so if I get it I won't die. But the overwhelming majority of unvaccinated people who get Covid won't die either.
If the vaccine stopped transmission, therefore ending this whole thing, I'd be much more for it. But it doesn't....
Agreed.
I hate the same old comment. But its not gonna make me die...blah blah blah. How you know that for a fact? Because the science experiment says so...so far. God this sh%t so ridiculous. This world is ridiculous. If this is the end of days like in the bible...i wouldnt be surprised.
Exactly and no one knows how bad you would get it with or without a vaccine. It’s just another way to make people run for it. We can only hope it does lessen symptoms if gotten but someone in here described her symptoms exact to my unvaccinated coworker.
There are statistics for all these questions.
Hospitalizations - look at those getting hospitalized for CoVid...;It's the unvaccinated overwhelmingly.
Look who is dying from CoVid - it's overwhelming the unvaccinated.
The vaccinate/therapeutic does have an significant effect.
It is known that being vaccinated lessens the symptoms just by looking at hospitalization and death rates of CoVid.
Anyone search and find the same information.
Did the vaccine works as was hoped? No, I don't think it did. Does it work on some significant level - yes - it does.
Omicrom may be less virulent but it's still only about 59% of the positive cases with Delta making up the rest.
Link Link
Once upon a time the chances of the vaccinated being hospitalized was 98% now it’s 90.2% and dwindling. Explain that.
I know about 8 people who are vaccinated and boosted and still got very sick and were hospitalized. So I get they feed that bull to people and people lap it up and believe it to a t. But this is all a science experiment and no one know nothing for fact not for years to come
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NervousNell
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Raging2020
I’d like an at home flu test. Do those exist? Just like Covid, there is nothing you can do for it but sometimes it’s just nice to know what you have. My friends family are all sick. Negative for Covid on at home tests. They want to test for flu but can’t get into their regular doctor or urgent cares.
Am I the only one that never has or does run to the doctor when sick? Especially adults, you know your body and how you can treat yourself for the most part. Leave the room for people who truly need the care because maybe one day that could be you that needs it.
I can't tell you the last time I went to a doctor.
I mean i can't even tell you the last time I was sick either. I haven't even had a head cold since my daughter was a baby. One year both she and DH tested positive for flu. I got sick too so I assumed flu and stayed home. Nothing the doctor could have done for me anyway.
Last year I fell and needed stitches and honestly if it wasn't on my face I'd have probably skipped the stitches too. But I'm vain and didn't want a gross disfiguring scar on my face. 
I hate going to the doctor with a passion so I have to be deathly sick to go.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsWoods
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by luckystar08
Posted by Sash
Posted by luckystar08
Posted by Sash
Posted by ali120206
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
My friend who is a nurse is so sick, she couldn’t go to urgent care around us because all of them are so over booked with people getting tested due to exposure. She had to go to Newark and is still waiting 5 days for her PCR results because they are so backed up. She also had to wait hours to get antibiotics. It’s really ridiculous. She is actually sick and can’t get help or the results she needs because of the hysterics.
She also said her doctors said the flu is horrible this year, crazy bad strain. She thinks she has the flu because the rapid was negative but she wants to confirm.
Sorry but this post makes no sense. Your friend is sick so she needs to get tested but others who are also sick should not get tested? She add already tested negative but wants yet another test to confirm? If the flu is horrible this year perhaps many of those other people were as sick as she was with that flu? She had to wait hours at the pharmacy for antibiotics? Why— because other folks who are also sick needed antibiotics?
And you just said you took your son to be tested because he was exposed. Yet you are criticizing others trying to be tested due to exposure?
Obviously you struggle with reading comprehension. I said I didn’t take my son to get tested because the lines were long and to get an appointment were insane. And since I saw the madness I didn’t bother, therefore not taking the opportunity from someone who is sick. I know how to read the room and the situation unlike many people in this world.
And I also never said people who aren’t sick shouldn’t get tested or treatment at urgent care or the doctors. Please show where I said that. I actually agreed with naturalmama.
Secondly, my friend took a rapid test which is not the same as a regular test. Duh. As a nurse and student she needs a negative test from one that is not rapid. This is not breaking news. No one ever said all the people who were sick were sick with Covid. I know I never did as I don’t believe everything is Covid. I’m not stupid. If anything I think it is the flu. And AGAIN I never said she waited at the pharmacy for antibiotic, she had to wait to be seen at the urgent care because she is sick and needed antibiotics. Further proving my point that morons who aren’t sick and just want to know are taking up resources for those who need to be seen by doctors. Like my friend and anyone else who is sick. I never said she was special, I was giving an example. Learn to read and stop making sh!t up and questioning things I never said.
What the fuq is your point in any of your questions?
ETA: also by the way when I get my son tested it’s at the CVS drove thru. I don’t take him to the urgent care or wait on long lines. I also never have take an opportunity from someone to see a doctor because my son was getting tested.
My reading is fine…your writing just does not always make sense. You contradict yourself in the above so perhaps my questions were based on trying to understand wtf you are trying to say.
They also stemmed from frustration at the nasty, condescending attitude you and some others on here have. People who were exposed but are “not sick” want to know because they may still be positive and spread it to others. And those others may get “get sick” with symptoms and wind up clogging up more urgent cares, doctors offices, etc. They may also get others sick who will also need resources. What will it take to make you people understand this??
This very thing just happened with several people I know. It ran the gamut from asymptomatic, to mild symptoms, to elderly family members who got really sick from the person they live with would not test— despite being exposed- because THEY were “not sick.”
Some of the “morons” you refer to may also be in need of a test to confirm for work or school…just like your friend. So yes it it not always covid (DUH)… but sometimes it IS and some people are trying to do the right thing by testing I if they were exposed—even if they are not visibly sick— so they can let those who were around them know. But keep calling everyone a moron, hysterical, etc.
And with that, I will go back to bed since covid is currently kicking my and DH’s asses!!!
Uggh sorry to hear but aren’t you vaccinated? Maybe even boostered?
How many shots do you think you will have to take before the virus won’t kick your ass?
OMG. A simple “get well soon” too much for you????
Lucky, so sorry to hear you are feeling rough! Hope you feel better soon.
Yes, let’s sweep this all under the rug.
Sounds like she is worse off than the simple cold that we are being told with the vaccine you will get. Only the unvaccinated will get it bad. Hmmmmmm
Being vaccinated helps you not die. Being vaccinated helps to not be hospitalized. So having CoVid and being vaccinated and boosted doesn’t mean you aren’t sick- it means you’re not likely to die.
As it is without the vaccine, the percentage for not dying is quite high, 99.8 % I believe. So how much more can a vaccine really help u not to die? I think it has to do more with faith in a product when in reality I don’t really need it to help me get over this virus without dying. Also the majority of cases have been asymptomatic and mild cases and this is without the vaccine and as time progresses it has been less and less, typical course of a virus.
I agree. Everyone keeps saying I'm vaccinated so if I get it I won't die. But the overwhelming majority of unvaccinated people who get Covid won't die either.
If the vaccine stopped transmission, therefore ending this whole thing, I'd be much more for it. But it doesn't....
Agreed.
I hate the same old comment. But its not gonna make me die...blah blah blah. How you know that for a fact? Because the science experiment says so...so far. God this sh%t so ridiculous. This world is ridiculous. If this is the end of days like in the bible...i wouldnt be surprised.
Exactly and no one knows how bad you would get it with or without a vaccine. It’s just another way to make people run for it. We can only hope it does lessen symptoms if gotten but someone in here described her symptoms exact to my unvaccinated coworker.
There are statistics for all these questions.
Hospitalizations - look at those getting hospitalized for CoVid...;It's the unvaccinated overwhelmingly.
Look who is dying from CoVid - it's overwhelming the unvaccinated.
The vaccinate/therapeutic does have an significant effect.
It is known that being vaccinated lessens the symptoms just by looking at hospitalization and death rates of CoVid.
Anyone search and find the same information.
Did the vaccine works as was hoped? No, I don't think it did. Does it work on some significant level - yes - it does.
Omicrom may be less virulent but it's still only about 59% of the positive cases with Delta making up the rest.
Link Link
Ahh if you watch the news it is ALL and ONLY Omicron.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by MrsWoods
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsWoods
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by luckystar08
Posted by Sash
Posted by luckystar08
Posted by Sash
Posted by ali120206
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
My friend who is a nurse is so sick, she couldn’t go to urgent care around us because all of them are so over booked with people getting tested due to exposure. She had to go to Newark and is still waiting 5 days for her PCR results because they are so backed up. She also had to wait hours to get antibiotics. It’s really ridiculous. She is actually sick and can’t get help or the results she needs because of the hysterics.
She also said her doctors said the flu is horrible this year, crazy bad strain. She thinks she has the flu because the rapid was negative but she wants to confirm.
Sorry but this post makes no sense. Your friend is sick so she needs to get tested but others who are also sick should not get tested? She add already tested negative but wants yet another test to confirm? If the flu is horrible this year perhaps many of those other people were as sick as she was with that flu? She had to wait hours at the pharmacy for antibiotics? Why— because other folks who are also sick needed antibiotics?
And you just said you took your son to be tested because he was exposed. Yet you are criticizing others trying to be tested due to exposure?
Obviously you struggle with reading comprehension. I said I didn’t take my son to get tested because the lines were long and to get an appointment were insane. And since I saw the madness I didn’t bother, therefore not taking the opportunity from someone who is sick. I know how to read the room and the situation unlike many people in this world.
And I also never said people who aren’t sick shouldn’t get tested or treatment at urgent care or the doctors. Please show where I said that. I actually agreed with naturalmama.
Secondly, my friend took a rapid test which is not the same as a regular test. Duh. As a nurse and student she needs a negative test from one that is not rapid. This is not breaking news. No one ever said all the people who were sick were sick with Covid. I know I never did as I don’t believe everything is Covid. I’m not stupid. If anything I think it is the flu. And AGAIN I never said she waited at the pharmacy for antibiotic, she had to wait to be seen at the urgent care because she is sick and needed antibiotics. Further proving my point that morons who aren’t sick and just want to know are taking up resources for those who need to be seen by doctors. Like my friend and anyone else who is sick. I never said she was special, I was giving an example. Learn to read and stop making sh!t up and questioning things I never said.
What the fuq is your point in any of your questions?
ETA: also by the way when I get my son tested it’s at the CVS drove thru. I don’t take him to the urgent care or wait on long lines. I also never have take an opportunity from someone to see a doctor because my son was getting tested.
My reading is fine…your writing just does not always make sense. You contradict yourself in the above so perhaps my questions were based on trying to understand wtf you are trying to say.
They also stemmed from frustration at the nasty, condescending attitude you and some others on here have. People who were exposed but are “not sick” want to know because they may still be positive and spread it to others. And those others may get “get sick” with symptoms and wind up clogging up more urgent cares, doctors offices, etc. They may also get others sick who will also need resources. What will it take to make you people understand this??
This very thing just happened with several people I know. It ran the gamut from asymptomatic, to mild symptoms, to elderly family members who got really sick from the person they live with would not test— despite being exposed- because THEY were “not sick.”
Some of the “morons” you refer to may also be in need of a test to confirm for work or school…just like your friend. So yes it it not always covid (DUH)… but sometimes it IS and some people are trying to do the right thing by testing I if they were exposed—even if they are not visibly sick— so they can let those who were around them know. But keep calling everyone a moron, hysterical, etc.
And with that, I will go back to bed since covid is currently kicking my and DH’s asses!!!
Uggh sorry to hear but aren’t you vaccinated? Maybe even boostered?
How many shots do you think you will have to take before the virus won’t kick your ass?
OMG. A simple “get well soon” too much for you????
Lucky, so sorry to hear you are feeling rough! Hope you feel better soon.
Yes, let’s sweep this all under the rug.
Sounds like she is worse off than the simple cold that we are being told with the vaccine you will get. Only the unvaccinated will get it bad. Hmmmmmm
Being vaccinated helps you not die. Being vaccinated helps to not be hospitalized. So having CoVid and being vaccinated and boosted doesn’t mean you aren’t sick- it means you’re not likely to die.
As it is without the vaccine, the percentage for not dying is quite high, 99.8 % I believe. So how much more can a vaccine really help u not to die? I think it has to do more with faith in a product when in reality I don’t really need it to help me get over this virus without dying. Also the majority of cases have been asymptomatic and mild cases and this is without the vaccine and as time progresses it has been less and less, typical course of a virus.
I agree. Everyone keeps saying I'm vaccinated so if I get it I won't die. But the overwhelming majority of unvaccinated people who get Covid won't die either.
If the vaccine stopped transmission, therefore ending this whole thing, I'd be much more for it. But it doesn't....
Agreed.
I hate the same old comment. But its not gonna make me die...blah blah blah. How you know that for a fact? Because the science experiment says so...so far. God this sh%t so ridiculous. This world is ridiculous. If this is the end of days like in the bible...i wouldnt be surprised.
Exactly and no one knows how bad you would get it with or without a vaccine. It’s just another way to make people run for it. We can only hope it does lessen symptoms if gotten but someone in here described her symptoms exact to my unvaccinated coworker.
There are statistics for all these questions.
Hospitalizations - look at those getting hospitalized for CoVid...;It's the unvaccinated overwhelmingly.
Look who is dying from CoVid - it's overwhelming the unvaccinated.
The vaccinate/therapeutic does have an significant effect.
It is known that being vaccinated lessens the symptoms just by looking at hospitalization and death rates of CoVid.
Anyone search and find the same information.
Did the vaccine works as was hoped? No, I don't think it did. Does it work on some significant level - yes - it does.
Omicrom may be less virulent but it's still only about 59% of the positive cases with Delta making up the rest.
Link Link
Once upon a time the chances of the vaccinated being hospitalized was 98% now it’s 90.2% and dwindling. Explain that.
I know about 8 people who are vaccinated and boosted and still got very sick and were hospitalized. So I get they feed that bull to people and people lap it up and believe it to a t. But this is all a science experiment and no one know nothing for fact not for years to come
People seem to be excited over being guinea pigs. All running for a booster now and then the 4th shot and 5th, even though it is being proven these vaccines are not working like they claimed they would.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by MrsWoods
Posted by CookiePuss
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Posted by MrsWoods
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by luckystar08
Posted by Sash
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Posted by Sash
Posted by ali120206
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by Sash
Posted by CookiePuss
The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
My friend who is a nurse is so sick, she couldn’t go to urgent care around us because all of them are so over booked with people getting tested due to exposure. She had to go to Newark and is still waiting 5 days for her PCR results because they are so backed up. She also had to wait hours to get antibiotics. It’s really ridiculous. She is actually sick and can’t get help or the results she needs because of the hysterics.
She also said her doctors said the flu is horrible this year, crazy bad strain. She thinks she has the flu because the rapid was negative but she wants to confirm.
Sorry but this post makes no sense. Your friend is sick so she needs to get tested but others who are also sick should not get tested? She add already tested negative but wants yet another test to confirm? If the flu is horrible this year perhaps many of those other people were as sick as she was with that flu? She had to wait hours at the pharmacy for antibiotics? Why— because other folks who are also sick needed antibiotics?
And you just said you took your son to be tested because he was exposed. Yet you are criticizing others trying to be tested due to exposure?
Obviously you struggle with reading comprehension. I said I didn’t take my son to get tested because the lines were long and to get an appointment were insane. And since I saw the madness I didn’t bother, therefore not taking the opportunity from someone who is sick. I know how to read the room and the situation unlike many people in this world.
And I also never said people who aren’t sick shouldn’t get tested or treatment at urgent care or the doctors. Please show where I said that. I actually agreed with naturalmama.
Secondly, my friend took a rapid test which is not the same as a regular test. Duh. As a nurse and student she needs a negative test from one that is not rapid. This is not breaking news. No one ever said all the people who were sick were sick with Covid. I know I never did as I don’t believe everything is Covid. I’m not stupid. If anything I think it is the flu. And AGAIN I never said she waited at the pharmacy for antibiotic, she had to wait to be seen at the urgent care because she is sick and needed antibiotics. Further proving my point that morons who aren’t sick and just want to know are taking up resources for those who need to be seen by doctors. Like my friend and anyone else who is sick. I never said she was special, I was giving an example. Learn to read and stop making sh!t up and questioning things I never said.
What the fuq is your point in any of your questions?
ETA: also by the way when I get my son tested it’s at the CVS drove thru. I don’t take him to the urgent care or wait on long lines. I also never have take an opportunity from someone to see a doctor because my son was getting tested.
My reading is fine…your writing just does not always make sense. You contradict yourself in the above so perhaps my questions were based on trying to understand wtf you are trying to say.
They also stemmed from frustration at the nasty, condescending attitude you and some others on here have. People who were exposed but are “not sick” want to know because they may still be positive and spread it to others. And those others may get “get sick” with symptoms and wind up clogging up more urgent cares, doctors offices, etc. They may also get others sick who will also need resources. What will it take to make you people understand this??
This very thing just happened with several people I know. It ran the gamut from asymptomatic, to mild symptoms, to elderly family members who got really sick from the person they live with would not test— despite being exposed- because THEY were “not sick.”
Some of the “morons” you refer to may also be in need of a test to confirm for work or school…just like your friend. So yes it it not always covid (DUH)… but sometimes it IS and some people are trying to do the right thing by testing I if they were exposed—even if they are not visibly sick— so they can let those who were around them know. But keep calling everyone a moron, hysterical, etc.
And with that, I will go back to bed since covid is currently kicking my and DH’s asses!!!
Uggh sorry to hear but aren’t you vaccinated? Maybe even boostered?
How many shots do you think you will have to take before the virus won’t kick your ass?
OMG. A simple “get well soon” too much for you????
Lucky, so sorry to hear you are feeling rough! Hope you feel better soon.
Yes, let’s sweep this all under the rug.
Sounds like she is worse off than the simple cold that we are being told with the vaccine you will get. Only the unvaccinated will get it bad. Hmmmmmm
Being vaccinated helps you not die. Being vaccinated helps to not be hospitalized. So having CoVid and being vaccinated and boosted doesn’t mean you aren’t sick- it means you’re not likely to die.
As it is without the vaccine, the percentage for not dying is quite high, 99.8 % I believe. So how much more can a vaccine really help u not to die? I think it has to do more with faith in a product when in reality I don’t really need it to help me get over this virus without dying. Also the majority of cases have been asymptomatic and mild cases and this is without the vaccine and as time progresses it has been less and less, typical course of a virus.
I agree. Everyone keeps saying I'm vaccinated so if I get it I won't die. But the overwhelming majority of unvaccinated people who get Covid won't die either.
If the vaccine stopped transmission, therefore ending this whole thing, I'd be much more for it. But it doesn't....
Agreed.
I hate the same old comment. But its not gonna make me die...blah blah blah. How you know that for a fact? Because the science experiment says so...so far. God this sh%t so ridiculous. This world is ridiculous. If this is the end of days like in the bible...i wouldnt be surprised.
Exactly and no one knows how bad you would get it with or without a vaccine. It’s just another way to make people run for it. We can only hope it does lessen symptoms if gotten but someone in here described her symptoms exact to my unvaccinated coworker.
There are statistics for all these questions.
Hospitalizations - look at those getting hospitalized for CoVid...;It's the unvaccinated overwhelmingly.
Look who is dying from CoVid - it's overwhelming the unvaccinated.
The vaccinate/therapeutic does have an significant effect.
It is known that being vaccinated lessens the symptoms just by looking at hospitalization and death rates of CoVid.
Anyone search and find the same information.
Did the vaccine works as was hoped? No, I don't think it did. Does it work on some significant level - yes - it does.
Omicrom may be less virulent but it's still only about 59% of the positive cases with Delta making up the rest.
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Once upon a time the chances of the vaccinated being hospitalized was 98% now it’s 90.2% and dwindling. Explain that.
I know about 8 people who are vaccinated and boosted and still got very sick and were hospitalized. So I get they feed that bull to people and people lap it up and believe it to a t. But this is all a science experiment and no one know nothing for fact not for years to come
The percentage change might be because they were using cumulative data skewed to January cases when not as many people were vaccinated. It would be nice to see weekly breakdowns of cases, symptomatic cases, hospitalizations and deaths.
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I’d like an at home flu test. Do those exist? Just like Covid, there is nothing you can do for it but sometimes it’s just nice to know what you have. My friends family are all sick. Negative for Covid on at home tests. They want to test for flu but can’t get into their regular doctor or urgent cares.
Am I the only one that never has or does run to the doctor when sick? Especially adults, you know your body and how you can treat yourself for the most part. Leave the room for people who truly need the care because maybe one day that could be you that needs it.
I can't tell you the last time I went to a doctor.
I mean i can't even tell you the last time I was sick either. I haven't even had a head cold since my daughter was a baby. One year both she and DH tested positive for flu. I got sick too so I assumed flu and stayed home. Nothing the doctor could have done for me anyway.
Last year I fell and needed stitches and honestly if it wasn't on my face I'd have probably skipped the stitches too. But I'm vain and didn't want a gross disfiguring scar on my face.
I hate going to the doctor with a passion so I have to be deathly sick to go.
Same but I do get colds but I am not the type to run and go get antibiotics. It will last the same amount of time.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
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I’d like an at home flu test. Do those exist? Just like Covid, there is nothing you can do for it but sometimes it’s just nice to know what you have. My friends family are all sick. Negative for Covid on at home tests. They want to test for flu but can’t get into their regular doctor or urgent cares.
Am I the only one that never has or does run to the doctor when sick? Especially adults, you know your body and how you can treat yourself for the most part. Leave the room for people who truly need the care because maybe one day that could be you that needs it.
I can't tell you the last time I went to a doctor.
I mean i can't even tell you the last time I was sick either. I haven't even had a head cold since my daughter was a baby. One year both she and DH tested positive for flu. I got sick too so I assumed flu and stayed home. Nothing the doctor could have done for me anyway.
Last year I fell and needed stitches and honestly if it wasn't on my face I'd have probably skipped the stitches too. But I'm vain and didn't want a gross disfiguring scar on my face.
I hate going to the doctor with a passion so I have to be deathly sick to go.
Same but I do get colds but I am not the type to run and go get antibiotics. It will last the same amount of time.
I really only go if I think I have Strep so I can get antibiotics for it. But I have done Covid testing twice, with symptoms.
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According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
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Re: Covid at home test kits
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According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
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According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
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According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
I can’t, these are hilarious.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
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Posted by Anotherplease
According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
Oh damn my sons a goner. I’m a horrible mother.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Anotherplease
According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
I honestly should have been dead long ago. I eat indoors! And have since the second King Cuomo allowed it last spring.
Dh raced back to the gym the second they opened.
Never second guessed a holiday gathering.
Both unvaxed.
I should send our stories to National Geographic or something.
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According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
I honestly should have been dead long ago. I eat indoors! And have since the second King Cuomo allowed it last spring.
Dh raced back to the gym the second they opened.
Never second guessed a holiday gathering.
Both unvaxed.
I should send our stories to National Geographic or something.
You can send mine too. Unmasked since the day the mandate was dropped in May. No social distance that first weekend. Parties with friends and family. Only until now when it is mandated again and certain places wore a mask. Have gotten colds and tested 12 times for work.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
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Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Anotherplease
According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
I honestly should have been dead long ago. I eat indoors! And have since the second King Cuomo allowed it last spring.
Dh raced back to the gym the second they opened.
Never second guessed a holiday gathering.
Both unvaxed.
I should send our stories to National Geographic or something.
You can send mine too. Unmasked since the day the mandate was dropped in May. No social distance that first weekend. Parties with friends and family. Only until now when it is mandated again and certain places wore a mask. Have gotten colds and tested 12 times for work.
You guys are cool
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Posted by Anotherplease
According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
I honestly should have been dead long ago. I eat indoors! And have since the second King Cuomo allowed it last spring.
Dh raced back to the gym the second they opened.
Never second guessed a holiday gathering.
Both unvaxed.
I should send our stories to National Geographic or something.
You can send mine too. Unmasked since the day the mandate was dropped in May. No social distance that first weekend. Parties with friends and family. Only until now when it is mandated again and certain places wore a mask. Have gotten colds and tested 12 times for work.
You guys are cool
Thanks but we already know we are 
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Re: Covid at home test kits
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Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Anotherplease
According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
I honestly should have been dead long ago. I eat indoors! And have since the second King Cuomo allowed it last spring.
Dh raced back to the gym the second they opened.
Never second guessed a holiday gathering.
Both unvaxed.
I should send our stories to National Geographic or something.
You can send mine too. Unmasked since the day the mandate was dropped in May. No social distance that first weekend. Parties with friends and family. Only until now when it is mandated again and certain places wore a mask. Have gotten colds and tested 12 times for work.
You guys are cool
And you need to loosen up. It can't be doom and gloom all the time. Serious! Serious! The sky is falling! The world is ending!
It's been 2 years.
It's not good for your health to be constantly serious and in fear.
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Posted by Anotherplease
According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
I honestly should have been dead long ago. I eat indoors! And have since the second King Cuomo allowed it last spring.
Dh raced back to the gym the second they opened.
Never second guessed a holiday gathering.
Both unvaxed.
I should send our stories to National Geographic or something.
You can send mine too. Unmasked since the day the mandate was dropped in May. No social distance that first weekend. Parties with friends and family. Only until now when it is mandated again and certain places wore a mask. Have gotten colds and tested 12 times for work.
You guys are cool
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You are better than everyone and a bright shining light of positivity.
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Re: Covid at home test kits
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Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Anotherplease
According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
I can’t, these are hilarious.
I have two sets of friends who are married. One are overweight and the other loves their recreational drugs...both had Covid for Christmas week, none of them are vaccinated and both sets of couples were extremely mild. They don't plan on getting vaccinated afterwards either
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Posted by Anotherplease
According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
I can’t, these are hilarious.
I have two sets of friends who are married. One are overweight and the other loves their recreational drugs...both had Covid for Christmas week, none of them are vaccinated and both sets of couples were extremely mild. They don't plan on getting vaccinated afterwards either
Omg and they all survived? Phewwww
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Covid at home test kits
I just got an email the school district has home test kits they will be handing out. I'm not going to be able to get my kids to do this at home lol
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Re: Covid at home test kits
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Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Anotherplease
According to creepy uncle joe, the unvaccinated are facing a winter of sickness and death. Once winter passes no more problems since the filthy unvaccinated will be gone. Imagine a world safe with all vaccinated? Since I have limited time left I will try to make the best of my remaining time. Peace out mofos!
Well since I’m not vaccinated, and neither is my husband or kids, we’re long gone. As a matter of fact, I’m not making this post...it’s my ghost doing it.
I honestly should have been dead long ago. I eat indoors! And have since the second King Cuomo allowed it last spring.
Dh raced back to the gym the second they opened.
Never second guessed a holiday gathering.
Both unvaxed.
I should send our stories to National Geographic or something.
You can send mine too. Unmasked since the day the mandate was dropped in May. No social distance that first weekend. Parties with friends and family. Only until now when it is mandated again and certain places wore a mask. Have gotten colds and tested 12 times for work.
You guys are cool
And you need to loosen up. It can't be doom and gloom all the time. Serious! Serious! The sky is falling! The world is ending!
It's been 2 years.
It's not good for your health to be constantly serious and in fear.
I don’t see it this way. I think it’s pretty insensitive to make jokes like this about Covid honestly. Would you joke like that about Cancer? Would you flaunt the fact that “you should have been dead” by now and mock people that worry about it? You are blessed if you can “loosen up” about this. I know two people right now whose parents have been in the hospital since Christmas with Covid. One is pretty serious. Two weeks ago they were fine and now fighting for their life. I can only imagine how they would feel reading this stupidity. How would you feel if it were your mother or father? Would you be joking that you should be dead and how masks are a joke and you live on the edge. Give me a break. Have some social awareness and some class and recognize that the fact that you can joke about covid right now is a blessing. Be careful when you spit in the sky.
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The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.
This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.
Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.
I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.
Maybe because they have less staff since they fired them also. The ones that were ok to work unvaccinated and praised but now pushed out.
Northwell, the largest health care provider in NY, fired 1400 out of a staff of appx. 76K...less then 2%.
I think those sick and in need of quarantining provide more of a risk to the capability of the staff then those that left due to the vaccine requirement.
Again, I don't know what hospitals are claiming they are overwhelmed.
I just saw Englewood in NJ say their ED is overwhelmed as people are going there for Covid testing.
My friend who is a nurse is so sick, she couldn’t go to urgent care around us because all of them are so over booked with people getting tested due to exposure. She had to go to Newark and is still waiting 5 days for her PCR results because they are so backed up. She also had to wait hours to get antibiotics. It’s really ridiculous. She is actually sick and can’t get help or the results she needs because of the hysterics.
She also said her doctors said the flu is horrible this year, crazy bad strain. She thinks she has the flu because the rapid was negative but she wants to confirm.
Sorry but this post makes no sense. Your friend is sick so she needs to get tested but others who are also sick should not get tested? She add already tested negative but wants yet another test to confirm? If the flu is horrible this year perhaps many of those other people were as sick as she was with that flu? She had to wait hours at the pharmacy for antibiotics? Why— because other folks who are also sick needed antibiotics?
And you just said you took your son to be tested because he was exposed. Yet you are criticizing others trying to be tested due to exposure?
Obviously you struggle with reading comprehension. I said I didn’t take my son to get tested because the lines were long and to get an appointment were insane. And since I saw the madness I didn’t bother, therefore not taking the opportunity from someone who is sick. I know how to read the room and the situation unlike many people in this world.
And I also never said people who aren’t sick shouldn’t get tested or treatment at urgent care or the doctors. Please show where I said that. I actually agreed with naturalmama.
Secondly, my friend took a rapid test which is not the same as a regular test. Duh. As a nurse and student she needs a negative test from one that is not rapid. This is not breaking news. No one ever said all the people who were sick were sick with Covid. I know I never did as I don’t believe everything is Covid. I’m not stupid. If anything I think it is the flu. And AGAIN I never said she waited at the pharmacy for antibiotic, she had to wait to be seen at the urgent care because she is sick and needed antibiotics. Further proving my point that morons who aren’t sick and just want to know are taking up resources for those who need to be seen by doctors. Like my friend and anyone else who is sick. I never said she was special, I was giving an example. Learn to read and stop making sh!t up and questioning things I never said.
What the fuq is your point in any of your questions?
ETA: also by the way when I get my son tested it’s at the CVS drove thru. I don’t take him to the urgent care or wait on long lines. I also never have take an opportunity from someone to see a doctor because my son was getting tested.
My reading is fine…your writing just does not always make sense. You contradict yourself in the above so perhaps my questions were based on trying to understand wtf you are trying to say.
They also stemmed from frustration at the nasty, condescending attitude you and some others on here have. People who were exposed but are “not sick” want to know because they may still be positive and spread it to others. And those others may get “get sick” with symptoms and wind up clogging up more urgent cares, doctors offices, etc. They may also get others sick who will also need resources. What will it take to make you people understand this??
This very thing just happened with several people I know. It ran the gamut from asymptomatic, to mild symptoms, to elderly family members who got really sick from the person they live with would not test— despite being exposed- because THEY were “not sick.”
Some of the “morons” you refer to may also be in need of a test to confirm for work or school…just like your friend. So yes it it not always covid (DUH)… but sometimes it IS and some people are trying to do the right thing by testing I if they were exposed—even if they are not visibly sick— so they can let those who were around them know. But keep calling everyone a moron, hysterical, etc.
And with that, I will go back to bed since covid is currently kicking my and DH’s asses!!!
Uggh sorry to hear but aren’t you vaccinated? Maybe even boostered?
How many shots do you think you will have to take before the virus won’t kick your ass?
OMG. A simple “get well soon” too much for you????
Lucky, so sorry to hear you are feeling rough! Hope you feel better soon.
Yes, let’s sweep this all under the rug.
Sounds like she is worse off than the simple cold that we are being told with the vaccine you will get. Only the unvaccinated will get it bad. Hmmmmmm
Being vaccinated helps you not die. Being vaccinated helps to not be hospitalized. So having CoVid and being vaccinated and boosted doesn’t mean you aren’t sick- it means you’re not likely to die.
As it is without the vaccine, the percentage for not dying is quite high, 99.8 % I believe. So how much more can a vaccine really help u not to die? I think it has to do more with faith in a product when in reality I don’t really need it to help me get over this virus without dying. Also the majority of cases have been asymptomatic and mild cases and this is without the vaccine and as time progresses it has been less and less, typical course of a virus.
I agree. Everyone keeps saying I'm vaccinated so if I get it I won't die. But the overwhelming majority of unvaccinated people who get Covid won't die either.
If the vaccine stopped transmission, therefore ending this whole thing, I'd be much more for it. But it doesn't....
Agreed.
I hate the same old comment. But its not gonna make me die...blah blah blah. How you know that for a fact? Because the science experiment says so...so far. God this sh%t so ridiculous. This world is ridiculous. If this is the end of days like in the bible...i wouldnt be surprised.
Exactly and no one knows how bad you would get it with or without a vaccine. It’s just another way to make people run for it. We can only hope it does lessen symptoms if gotten but someone in here described her symptoms exact to my unvaccinated coworker.
There are statistics for all these questions.
Hospitalizations - look at those getting hospitalized for CoVid...;It's the unvaccinated overwhelmingly.
Look who is dying from CoVid - it's overwhelming the unvaccinated.
The vaccinate/therapeutic does have an significant effect.
It is known that being vaccinated lessens the symptoms just by looking at hospitalization and death rates of CoVid.
Anyone search and find the same information.
Did the vaccine works as was hoped? No, I don't think it did. Does it work on some significant level - yes - it does.
Omicrom may be less virulent but it's still only about 59% of the positive cases with Delta making up the rest.
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Thank you for this sensible, fact filled response.
If people don't want to get vaccinated, then they can own that, but denying its efficacy in light of clear numbers reduces their credibility.
I wish it did more to stop the spread, but it is the best we have right now and clearly helps.
I also want to add, since there are still people on this thread who insist on downplaying Covid by quoting the ~98% (or whatever) number, that percentages are only one type of data point. In a country with a population this large, whole numbers need to be considered as well. We have over 824,000 Americans dead in less than two years. That's far too many, and is not to be minimized. At that size, percentages are less important.
I am for the vax mandates for adults but I can understand the view of those against them. However, the pushback on mask mandates is utterly foolish. The data is clear that they stop the spread and since the vax that some of you rail against is less affective at stopping the spread with the new variants to me that's all the more reason for a temporary mask mandate. If you can't put a piece of cloth over your face for a couple of weeks to protect others in your community you're an asshole.
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