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jprimrose
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Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
I give my DS tofu and edamame. Is it suppose to be bad for children? I know there were some studies out about how it may have an estrogen like chemical in it, but I didn't think it was conclusive. Does anyone else give their children tofu or other soy products?
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Bxgell2
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Alex eats soy products and tofu and loves them, as do I and hubby, and we are all as healthy as can be. I think it's all about moderation - think about it this way, some could say there are as many risks in feeding your child meat that has hormones pumped into it as well. Truth is, if you think too hard about this stuff you can drive yourself insane. As long as you are concientious about providing a diet that is rich in a variety of sources, I think you're fine.
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| Posted 4/7/09 1:26 PM |
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
DD had a milk protein allergy and I kept her off soy as much as I could till 1 year and try to keep her off of it now that she can successfully eat/drink milk.
My Bil's grew up on soy and they all have slight breasts, Dh who is their older brother by atleast 9 years never had soy anything and doesn't have that problem. So it's nothing scientific or anything but it creeped me out enough.
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| Posted 4/7/09 1:27 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
This is all new to me, so I currently have no opinions one way or the other. We don't eat soy, but that's because I don't like the way it looks.... 
An article I found about some of the downsides of soy:
http://www.hpakids.org/holistic-health/articles/125/1/Soy-Unsafe-for-Children
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| Posted 4/7/09 1:31 PM |
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jprimrose
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Wow that is some article. I do not give my DS products every day, probably twice a week, but this article makes me think I should stop. It is really scary. I need to do some more research on it. Thanks for posting the article.
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| Posted 4/7/09 2:04 PM |
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
DD loves edamame and I just gave her some tofu for the first time last night. I had no idea that it might be harmful 
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| Posted 4/7/09 2:14 PM |
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
DS is a vegetarian - we give him organic soy products!
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| Posted 4/7/09 2:18 PM |
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
I read his vaccine book and found him to be quite an extremist and alarmist - I would take anything he says with a grain of salt!
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| Posted 4/7/09 2:19 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Posted by lipglossjunky73
I read his vaccine book and found him to be quite an extremist and alarmist - I would take anything he says with a grain of salt!
That's why I'm not making any stance either for or against soy until I find out more details. This was one of the first articles I found on the topic. I'm guessing that there are just as many discussions saying that it's 100% safe, and somewhere in the middle is the truth....
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| Posted 4/7/09 2:25 PM |
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jprimrose
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Here are some other articles I found on soy:
http://www.soyconnection.com/pressroom/press_release_view.php/Soy+Vey+Should+you+eat+it+or+not?id=4
http://www.cchealthcounseling.com/11.html?m7:cat=is-soy-a-health-food
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| Posted 4/7/09 2:26 PM |
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Almost every food in the grocery section of a supermarket has some form of soy in it. It's pretty difficult to avoid. I don't see why you couldn't give Tofu or other soy products in moderation.
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| Posted 4/7/09 2:27 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Here's a report that leans heavily towards it not being an issue:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-03-19-soy-panel_x.htm
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| Posted 4/7/09 2:30 PM |
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Bxgell2
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Just shows the importance of doing research - one article I found raises an interesting point: "However, it has been reported that in Japan, the average daily soy intake is approximately 65 grams per person and 36-45 grams per person in China. These levels have not posed any adverse effects on children in these countries."
I find it very hard to believe that soy products can be THAT harmful when an entire country subsists on it frequently, with no apparent ill effects.
As I said on the other thread, people can drive themselves crazy with this stuff. Soy has estrogens, Meat and dairy have hormones and antibiotics, produce has pollutants and chemicals in it, fish has mercury in it. There is no way to protect against every potential harm. In my humble opinion, the best course of action is a diet rich in a variety of sources and in moderation. I'm sure eating soy products every every meal is not healthy, but as an additional supplement from time to time probably does not have a detrimental impact.
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| Posted 4/7/09 2:30 PM |
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angelbear217
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
I really didn't know that soy could be harmful until reading this. DD has had both tofu and veggie burgers with soy and has never had a problem. Everything in moderation.
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| Posted 4/7/09 2:38 PM |
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
geez...is anything safe anymore!? i swear. DD eats like 10 foods and a about 3 of them are soy based!
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| Posted 4/7/09 2:41 PM |
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Goldi0218
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Abby is currently on soy formula and soy yogurt because she could not tolerate milk protein after I nursed her. I had to stop nursing because of thrush - we BOTH had it and it did not stop til I stopped nursing.
I have a very hard time with the idea that a pediatrician would knowingly offer soy as an alternative if this research had been published multiple times doing the damage they say it does.
MY PLAN:
Not relying on internet data including this site.
Asking the doctor who knows Abby best at her 7 month well visit this afternoon.
Making a judgment call as a parent to decide what is best for my child.
Just as an aside, what do we think is causing the development in girls to start so early? Could it be the feeding of hormones to cows?  Point is, nothing is 100% safe - soy-based or not.
I'll let you know what her pediatrician says when I get home later.
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GoldenRod
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Posted by Bxgell2
Just shows the importance of doing research - one article I found raises an interesting point: "However, it has been reported that in Japan, the average daily soy intake is approximately 65 grams per person and 36-45 grams per person in China. These levels have not posed any adverse effects on children in these countries."
I find it very hard to believe that soy products can be THAT harmful when an entire country subsists on it frequently, with no apparent ill effects.
and of course, there are articles that say the opposite....
http://www.mothering.com/articles/growing_child/food/soy_story.html
How Much Soy Do Asians Really Eat?
Those who dare to question the benefits of soy tend to receive one stock answer: Soy foods couldn't possibly have a downside because Asians eat large quantities of soy every day and consequently remain free of most western diseases. In fact, the people of China, Japan, and other countries in Asia eat very little soy. The soy industry's own figures show that soy consumption in China, Indonesia, Korea, Japan, and Taiwan ranges from 9.3 to 36 grams per day. That's grams of soy food, not grams of soy protein alone. Compare this with a cup of tofu (252 grams) or soy milk (240 grams). Many Americans today think nothing of consuming a cup of tofu, a couple glasses of soy milk, handfuls of soy nuts, soy "energy bars," and veggie burgers. Infants on soy formula receive the most of all, both in quantity and in proportion to body weight.
Claims that soybeans have been a major part of the Asian diet for more than 3,000 years, or from "time immemorial," are simply not true.
Sometimes (a lot of the time...), research can really make your head spin....
I'm leaning towards the old stand-by "Everything in moderation"....
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Bxgell2
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Sounds about right - a serving of soy food a day is what most Asians practice, and that's probably what we do in our household, if not less than that. I can't really imagine anyone eating more than 1-2 servings of soy food a day, and if they are, it's probably not too smart, not just because of any potential "risk" with soy products, but because it really is SO important to eat a diet rich in a *variety* of sources, particularly for vegetarians and vegans.
I follow the golden rule: Mean between the extremes
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GoldenRod
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Posted by Bxgell2
I follow the golden rule: Mean between the extremes
So THAT's my problem.... I thought it was "Meat between the sweets".... boy, that explains a lot.... 
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
I have lessened our Soy intake where I can, but only because my father is battling stage 4c colon cancer. I just feel that since there have been so many studies about the effects of estrogen and breast cancer that it would the right thing for us.
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| Posted 4/7/09 3:19 PM |
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hbugal
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
I live by the rule of EVERYTHING IN MODERATION....
I, without worry, feed DS tofu, edamame, soy sauce, peanuts, peanut butter, berries, hotdogs, chocolate, candy, desserts, fast food, soda, junk food, and pretty much every currently offending food you can think of..
I feel that as long as his diet is well balanced Im in the clear...
It seems like every minute I turn around there is something else that we shouldnt be eating..
Im just going to keep winging it when it comes to this parenting thing and ignore the media.
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| Posted 4/7/09 3:36 PM |
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steph4777
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
DH really wants to get DS#2 off soy milk because of the unknown effects on the estrogen. I mentioned it to my ped last week and she didn't seem too concerned. I need to take DS to an allergist to have him officially tested for a milk allergy.
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| Posted 4/7/09 3:55 PM |
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stickydust
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
I think every once in a while is OK. My DD was on soy formula as an infant because she would not tolerate anything else.
Although this is anectodotal - when I was TTC #2 it took me about 4 months - which although not very long was surprising to me as I had gotten pg on the first try 2x. After doing some research I realized that the only thing I was really doing different was that I was eating a veggie burger, or burrito etc. every day for lunch. I decided to experiment and gave it up completely for a month and bam! I got pregnant that first month. It may have been pure coincidence - I don't know - but it was the only thing I did differently.
I will still eat it but only a few times a month. I think it may be like anything else - some people may be more sensitive to its effects (like gluten or lactose intolerances).
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| Posted 4/7/09 4:37 PM |
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dm24angel
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
I try to limit it or watch my sons intake of it b/c of the studies ( and reliable) ones that show risk.
But I still give it to him in moderation .
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jprimrose
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Re: Spinoff: Giving soy products to children
Posted by Bxgell2
Alex eats soy products and tofu and loves them, as do I and hubby, and we are all as healthy as can be. I think it's all about moderation - think about it this way, some could say there are as many risks in feeding your child meat that has hormones pumped into it as well. Truth is, if you think too hard about this stuff you can drive yourself insane. As long as you are concientious about providing a diet that is rich in a variety of sources, I think you're fine.
I totally agree. Many people believe it really is the hormones in meat that have caused early puberty and some cancers, and that is why I stay away from them. Moderation is definitely they key.
Thanks for all your responses. 
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