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MST9106
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
Posted by MrsO
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Catholic deacons are allowed to marry right? (I guess I should really know this! lol)
If a deacon is married when he becomes a deacon it is ok. If his wife dies he is not allowed to remarry.
A deacon can not perform all of the sacraments like a priest can.
You are 100% correct. My priest told us this on Sunday when we were baptizing my son. A Deacon must be married (if he wants to marry, bc he cannot marry AFTER he becomes a Deacon) AND can perform all the sacraments as the priest except annoint the sick, grant absolution or say the Mass...
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
Posted by Shorty
I have no opposition to that at all.
That's how it was way back when and it worked just fine.
i totally agree!
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
Posted by Shorty
I was just thinking about that at lunch.... I went to St Kilian for their 12:15 mass and the priest that gave my ashes looked about 25!
wow!
the priest who married vin and i was a bachelor for his whole life, was a model, made a lot of money as a biz man and then - at the age of about 40 - got the calling and became a priest! amazing - but he led a totally normal life until that point - i really love him - i wish there were more priests like that - who are just like us in a lot of ways and i think if they allowed them to marry they would be - KWIM? our priest is a WONDERFUL man - and as far as i know deacons can marry - the deacon who did our pre-cana was married... remember him nicole? LOL 
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
Posted by hope2bamom
I agree with priests being able to marry, I think it is completely ridiculous that they can't. But I think it can be dangerous to say that a religion must progress with the times. I don't think allowing a priest to marry is progressing with the times, I think it is just the right thing to do and nowhere in the bible does it say that they shouldn't.
But to imply that a religion should progress with the times I think can be dangerous. I don't think we should change the foundation of the Catholic religion to suit people. IF someone wants to have premaritial sex, yes it is their choice, but I don't think that the religion should say that is alright, just because the general population of America choose to have premaritial sex.
Changing a religion to fit what we want is actually sort of against what Jesus teaches.
ITA with all of this. However, I do wonder how the Church would handle a priest's divorce.
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hope2bamom
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
This is strange because my priest told me that I could of had a Deacon marry me, if I wanted to have my wedding later in the afternoon.
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hope2bamom
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
My DH grew up in a different Christian religion, I can't remember the name off hand, and their priests could marry, but if they got a divorce then they had to step down from being a priest. Not saying that is the right way to deal with it, but just throwing it out there.
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MST9106
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
Posted by hope2bamom
This is strange because my priest told me that I could of had a Deacon marry me, if I wanted to have my wedding later in the afternoon.
You're right...I just spoke to my husband and I got the marriage part all confused...a Deacon cannot marry after he becomes a Deacon unless under special circumstances...but he can perform the Sacrament of Marriage.
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
Posted by Kara
I'm all for it.
I'd like to see female priests as well.
I agree.
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dono426
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
i think they should be allowed to marry
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
TOTALLY think they should be allowed
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hope2bamom
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
Interesting perspective. My mother says the same thing about letting a nun get married. She says it is no life for a family. (my mother was going to be a nun)
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
Posted by Shorty
I was just thinking about that at lunch.... I went to St Kilian for their 12:15 mass and the priest that gave my ashes looked about 25!
cool...I grew up there and got married there.
but to answer the OP, I have no problem with priests being able to marry.
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
Posted by Kara
I'm all for it.
I'd like to see female priests as well.
Yup...I find it hard to speak to a priest about marriage....how can they give advice on something they have no idea about. I went and spoke to a priest a couple of weeks ago about somethings, but as much as he wanted to help he just couldn't. I don't understand why they can't marry, and I am also for women priests. If you want to spread the word does it really matter if you're a man or a women
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donegal419
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
DH and I recently had this conversation, and I think afer thinking about it, I do AGREE with the Church's stance on not allowing priests to get married.
The Church views ordination as a MARRIAGE. you are not marrying a person; as an ordained priest or nun you are literally marrying the Church and Christ. Throughout the bible, the Church is often referred to as the "bride" and the priest Her bridegroom. The Church views ordination as the priest (or nun's) marriage. Essentially, how can you be married to Christ wholly and without abandon, yet also have to be married to another person who also deserves that undivided attention?? it is too difficult.
A priest's role is not like a deacon (who can marry) or like a pastor or preacher in a Protestant Church. Priests do so much more than we ever see in public. They must say Mass at least once a day (for those priests not serving in a parish, that means saying it on thier own) they must pray the Litrugy of the Hours (which occurs 4 times a day) as well as minister to the sick, the dying, etc. Priests are on-call 24-7 to adminster the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist which can be several times a day depending on their ministry. They must also be ready to adminster the Sacraments of Reconcilation and Anointing of the Sick at a moment's notice--- these are not Sacraments you can plan on doing at a set time every day. (you're not plugging these in calendar!)
These are among the many reasons why priests cannot, and in some ways, I believe should not be married. 100 % of their focus should be on Christ and the Church. if they're married, it would not be fair to them as a priest or to their spouse.
Yes, I recognize the shortage of priests and perhaps if they could marry, maybe some of the fine men we have as deacons, youth ministers, etc. etc. that serve the Church would become priests. However, if they are allowed to get married, the Church would have to essentially change what a priest's role is, and how can they do that? Catholicism as we know it would cease to exist in many ways.
Also, something to think about: the number of vocations coming out of Latin America, India, parts of Africa and other parts of Asia is astounding at this time. However in the United States and Europe, vocations are at an all time low. I don't think it's the fact priests can't marry is the issue... I think it's more of the materialistic, "me, me, me" soceity of the Western World is what is causing the lack of vocations, not the fact that priests can't marry.
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
While I don't like anyone's occupation to dictate who they can/cannot love or marry, I hesitate on the subject.
There is the issue of Church property, what happens if the priest divorces or leaves a widow. What is she entitled to in terms of a settlement. Priests are entitled to room & board for a lifetime of servitude. How does a Church throw out a widow with children? How do they pay maintenance (aka alimony) and child support given the benefits that priests have?
I believe that was the impetus to the Church banning priests from marrying.
Solve that problem & I would change my mind.
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hope2bamom
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
donegal419,
You brought up a lot of valid points and is definitely something to think about.
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donegal419
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
Posted by hope2bamom
This is strange because my priest told me that I could of had a Deacon marry me, if I wanted to have my wedding later in the afternoon.
A deacon can marry you, but you would only be receiving the Sacrament of Marriage and it would just be within a ceremony, not a Mass.
A deacon CANNOT marry you if you are having a Nuptial Mass, which is the Sacrament of Marraige AND the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist) because a deacon cannot perform the consecration of the Eucharist....
But you could have a deacon marry you within a Mass as long as a priest did the Liturgy of the Eucharist.
ETA: the later in the afternoon is probably because the priests will be busy with Masses all day (if it's a Sunday) or you will have to do it just before the 5:00 Mass on the Saturday.
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hope2bamom
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Re: Since it is Ash Wednesday
Yup. That was exactly why.
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