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Re: TikTok School Challenges
Posted by NervousNell
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People will also blame social media and phones but.. who buys the phones? The iPad? The computer? Who Allows the apps? Parents. Ultimately, parents are responsible for the actions of their kids in eyes of the law. Maybe not in the court of public opinion (and I do agree with some of Windy’s points) but the law would require a parent to pay up for their kids actions.
This is the problem. Parents buy the devices, but many do not monitor them. Some of my students have their phones locked down. Their parents literally take their phones at bedtime and the kids don’t get them back until they leave for school.
Meanwhile, I had a kid who told me he never slept at night due to playing with his phone/video games and when I asked the mom to take those things away at night so he could sleep, she was adamant that she couldn’t take away his things. I said who pays for “his” things.
You know what kills me? How much younger and younger kids are being handed phones. An 8 year old does NOT need a cell phone. But every year it gets younger and younger. And because one parent allows it, the other kids start wanting it too of course.
My daughter was relentless about wanting a phone because all her friends had one. It got to the point that I told her that if she asked me again she'd have to wait even longer because she knew our plan (middle school) and we weren't going to deviate from it because she was nagging.
It was maddening.
But one parent allows a 1000 dollar cell phone in elementary and everyone follows along and the kids who don't have one feel left out etc.
Peer pressure is real and it starts with the parents
Agreed. My kids never got them before middle school as there was no need. They came home alone in middle school and was doing more things without us.
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Re: TikTok School Challenges
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by BFNY516
People will also blame social media and phones but.. who buys the phones? The iPad? The computer? Who Allows the apps? Parents. Ultimately, parents are responsible for the actions of their kids in eyes of the law. Maybe not in the court of public opinion (and I do agree with some of Windy’s points) but the law would require a parent to pay up for their kids actions.
This is the problem. Parents buy the devices, but many do not monitor them. Some of my students have their phones locked down. Their parents literally take their phones at bedtime and the kids don’t get them back until they leave for school.
Meanwhile, I had a kid who told me he never slept at night due to playing with his phone/video games and when I asked the mom to take those things away at night so he could sleep, she was adamant that she couldn’t take away his things. I said who pays for “his” things.
You know what kills me? How much younger and younger kids are being handed phones. An 8 year old does NOT need a cell phone. But every year it gets younger and younger. And because one parent allows it, the other kids start wanting it too of course.
My daughter was relentless about wanting a phone because all her friends had one. It got to the point that I told her that if she asked me again she'd have to wait even longer because she knew our plan (middle school) and we weren't going to deviate from it because she was nagging.
It was maddening.
But one parent allows a 1000 dollar cell phone in elementary and everyone follows along and the kids who don't have one feel left out etc.
Peer pressure is real and it starts with the parents
Agreed. My kids never got them before middle school as there was no need. They came home alone in middle school and was doing more things without us.
My son's old elementary besties had them early - K and 2... I'm like really? Thankfully he found some new friends who's phone schedule was more in-line with ours. We waited until middle school (which was 5th for us) and some of his friends still don't have them...
In reviewing some of the group texts - the kids without phones are better off, the cyber bullying has started already. The kids who got the phones early - their families were involved in cyber bullying related incidents in elementary school... Insanity.
I do feel that good parenting keeps a lot of this in check but good parents still can have bad kids and vice versa.
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Re: TikTok School Challenges
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by BFNY516
People will also blame social media and phones but.. who buys the phones? The iPad? The computer? Who Allows the apps? Parents. Ultimately, parents are responsible for the actions of their kids in eyes of the law. Maybe not in the court of public opinion (and I do agree with some of Windy’s points) but the law would require a parent to pay up for their kids actions.
This is the problem. Parents buy the devices, but many do not monitor them. Some of my students have their phones locked down. Their parents literally take their phones at bedtime and the kids don’t get them back until they leave for school.
Meanwhile, I had a kid who told me he never slept at night due to playing with his phone/video games and when I asked the mom to take those things away at night so he could sleep, she was adamant that she couldn’t take away his things. I said who pays for “his” things.
I totally get that for younger kids. I have seen parents taking away phones or turning off WiFi very early with kids who will be out on their own the following year.
Kids have to learn how to be more independent BUT when they are younger they need to be disciplined.
I understand what you are saying but this kid was falling asleep in my 9th grade class every day because he didn’t sleep at night. He was failing all of his classes. At times, you need to parent your high schoolers as well since they are not always capable of making good decisions. I’m almost 40 and my parents still parent me when I make decisions that they think are not good.
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Re: TikTok School Challenges
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by BFNY516
People will also blame social media and phones but.. who buys the phones? The iPad? The computer? Who Allows the apps? Parents. Ultimately, parents are responsible for the actions of their kids in eyes of the law. Maybe not in the court of public opinion (and I do agree with some of Windy’s points) but the law would require a parent to pay up for their kids actions.
This is the problem. Parents buy the devices, but many do not monitor them. Some of my students have their phones locked down. Their parents literally take their phones at bedtime and the kids don’t get them back until they leave for school.
Meanwhile, I had a kid who told me he never slept at night due to playing with his phone/video games and when I asked the mom to take those things away at night so he could sleep, she was adamant that she couldn’t take away his things. I said who pays for “his” things.
I totally get that for younger kids. I have seen parents taking away phones or turning off WiFi very early with kids who will be out on their own the following year.
Kids have to learn how to be more independent BUT when they are younger they need to be disciplined.
I understand what you are saying but this kid was falling asleep in my 9th grade class every day because he didn’t sleep at night. He was failing all of his classes. At times, you need to parent your high schoolers as well since they are not always capable of making good decisions. I’m almost 40 and my parents still parent me when I make decisions that they think are not good.
Absolutely. My son is in 9th grade and he definitely has limits set on his phone still. They are more lax of course than his younger brother but there are limits. There are limits and boundaries for everything. There are no phones at dinner. Limited use on car rides and little if any use if they have friends in the car with them. As long as they are in my house they will have reasonable boundaries. There is no free for all. And they are still well rounded kids without their noses in their phones 24/7.
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Re: TikTok School Challenges
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by BFNY516
People will also blame social media and phones but.. who buys the phones? The iPad? The computer? Who Allows the apps? Parents. Ultimately, parents are responsible for the actions of their kids in eyes of the law. Maybe not in the court of public opinion (and I do agree with some of Windy’s points) but the law would require a parent to pay up for their kids actions.
This is the problem. Parents buy the devices, but many do not monitor them. Some of my students have their phones locked down. Their parents literally take their phones at bedtime and the kids don’t get them back until they leave for school.
Meanwhile, I had a kid who told me he never slept at night due to playing with his phone/video games and when I asked the mom to take those things away at night so he could sleep, she was adamant that she couldn’t take away his things. I said who pays for “his” things.
I totally get that for younger kids. I have seen parents taking away phones or turning off WiFi very early with kids who will be out on their own the following year.
Kids have to learn how to be more independent BUT when they are younger they need to be disciplined.
I understand what you are saying but this kid was falling asleep in my 9th grade class every day because he didn’t sleep at night. He was failing all of his classes. At times, you need to parent your high schoolers as well since they are not always capable of making good decisions. I’m almost 40 and my parents still parent me when I make decisions that they think are not good.
Agreed. I am speaking more of seniors who will be going off to school or the military or whatever within the following months and they are so dependent on their parents and them making decisions for themselves. I do get it is an individual thing as not everyone is the same. Just speaking overall.
What do you mean they parent you? Like how?
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Re: TikTok School Challenges
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by BFNY516
People will also blame social media and phones but.. who buys the phones? The iPad? The computer? Who Allows the apps? Parents. Ultimately, parents are responsible for the actions of their kids in eyes of the law. Maybe not in the court of public opinion (and I do agree with some of Windy’s points) but the law would require a parent to pay up for their kids actions.
This is the problem. Parents buy the devices, but many do not monitor them. Some of my students have their phones locked down. Their parents literally take their phones at bedtime and the kids don’t get them back until they leave for school.
Meanwhile, I had a kid who told me he never slept at night due to playing with his phone/video games and when I asked the mom to take those things away at night so he could sleep, she was adamant that she couldn’t take away his things. I said who pays for “his” things.
I totally get that for younger kids. I have seen parents taking away phones or turning off WiFi very early with kids who will be out on their own the following year.
Kids have to learn how to be more independent BUT when they are younger they need to be disciplined.
I understand what you are saying but this kid was falling asleep in my 9th grade class every day because he didn’t sleep at night. He was failing all of his classes. At times, you need to parent your high schoolers as well since they are not always capable of making good decisions. I’m almost 40 and my parents still parent me when I make decisions that they think are not good.
Agreed. I am speaking more of seniors who will be going off to school or the military or whatever within the following months and they are so dependent on their parents and them making decisions for themselves. I do get it is an individual thing as not everyone is the same. Just speaking overall.
What do you mean they parent you? Like how?
Give advice, direction, life experience.. I'm sure that is what she means. As all parents should. Parenting is a lifelong commitment. It doesn't end at 18.
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Re: TikTok School Challenges
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by BFNY516
People will also blame social media and phones but.. who buys the phones? The iPad? The computer? Who Allows the apps? Parents. Ultimately, parents are responsible for the actions of their kids in eyes of the law. Maybe not in the court of public opinion (and I do agree with some of Windy’s points) but the law would require a parent to pay up for their kids actions.
This is the problem. Parents buy the devices, but many do not monitor them. Some of my students have their phones locked down. Their parents literally take their phones at bedtime and the kids don’t get them back until they leave for school.
Meanwhile, I had a kid who told me he never slept at night due to playing with his phone/video games and when I asked the mom to take those things away at night so he could sleep, she was adamant that she couldn’t take away his things. I said who pays for “his” things.
I totally get that for younger kids. I have seen parents taking away phones or turning off WiFi very early with kids who will be out on their own the following year.
Kids have to learn how to be more independent BUT when they are younger they need to be disciplined.
I understand what you are saying but this kid was falling asleep in my 9th grade class every day because he didn’t sleep at night. He was failing all of his classes. At times, you need to parent your high schoolers as well since they are not always capable of making good decisions. I’m almost 40 and my parents still parent me when I make decisions that they think are not good.
Agreed. I am speaking more of seniors who will be going off to school or the military or whatever within the following months and they are so dependent on their parents and them making decisions for themselves. I do get it is an individual thing as not everyone is the same. Just speaking overall.
What do you mean they parent you? Like how?
Give advice, direction, life experience.. I'm sure that is what she means. As all parents should. Parenting is a lifelong commitment. It doesn't end at 18.
Agree it is a lifelong commitment. I would keep many things to myself if I knew they would put their 2 cents in to something that I already made the decision and feel is the best for myself.
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Re: TikTok School Challenges
I agree that a lot of the stuff on this list is bad however, off the top of my head I can remember one girl freshman year taking a sh*t on the hallway floor on a dare. Another guy I know peed on the gym floor just to piss the teacher off (no pun intended). We also all stole our parents cars to joyride. One of my friends was even involved in a horrific car accident that killed his friend. They were 15 at the time. All of these kids came from good families with nice parents. Sometimes good kids do stupid stuff.
But yeah if my kids did any of the crap on that list they wouldn’t see the light of day for a long long time.
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Re: TikTok School Challenges
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by BFNY516
People will also blame social media and phones but.. who buys the phones? The iPad? The computer? Who Allows the apps? Parents. Ultimately, parents are responsible for the actions of their kids in eyes of the law. Maybe not in the court of public opinion (and I do agree with some of Windy’s points) but the law would require a parent to pay up for their kids actions.
This is the problem. Parents buy the devices, but many do not monitor them. Some of my students have their phones locked down. Their parents literally take their phones at bedtime and the kids don’t get them back until they leave for school.
Meanwhile, I had a kid who told me he never slept at night due to playing with his phone/video games and when I asked the mom to take those things away at night so he could sleep, she was adamant that she couldn’t take away his things. I said who pays for “his” things.
I totally get that for younger kids. I have seen parents taking away phones or turning off WiFi very early with kids who will be out on their own the following year.
Kids have to learn how to be more independent BUT when they are younger they need to be disciplined.
I understand what you are saying but this kid was falling asleep in my 9th grade class every day because he didn’t sleep at night. He was failing all of his classes. At times, you need to parent your high schoolers as well since they are not always capable of making good decisions. I’m almost 40 and my parents still parent me when I make decisions that they think are not good.
Agreed. I am speaking more of seniors who will be going off to school or the military or whatever within the following months and they are so dependent on their parents and them making decisions for themselves. I do get it is an individual thing as not everyone is the same. Just speaking overall.
What do you mean they parent you? Like how?
Give advice, direction, life experience.. I'm sure that is what she means. As all parents should. Parenting is a lifelong commitment. It doesn't end at 18.
Agree it is a lifelong commitment. I would keep many things to myself if I knew they would put their 2 cents in to something that I already made the decision and feel is the best for myself.
I think that when your kids are grown and out of the house you should not really be offering unsolicited advice for every circumstance. It is actually so annoying to me when my husband’s parents still try to parent him. He’s a grown man. But I come from a different perspective I guess because even as early on as high school my parents were teaching me that my decisions affected me and only me in the long run and I was extremely independent from a very young age.
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Re: TikTok School Challenges
Posted by lululu
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by BFNY516
People will also blame social media and phones but.. who buys the phones? The iPad? The computer? Who Allows the apps? Parents. Ultimately, parents are responsible for the actions of their kids in eyes of the law. Maybe not in the court of public opinion (and I do agree with some of Windy’s points) but the law would require a parent to pay up for their kids actions.
This is the problem. Parents buy the devices, but many do not monitor them. Some of my students have their phones locked down. Their parents literally take their phones at bedtime and the kids don’t get them back until they leave for school.
Meanwhile, I had a kid who told me he never slept at night due to playing with his phone/video games and when I asked the mom to take those things away at night so he could sleep, she was adamant that she couldn’t take away his things. I said who pays for “his” things.
I totally get that for younger kids. I have seen parents taking away phones or turning off WiFi very early with kids who will be out on their own the following year.
Kids have to learn how to be more independent BUT when they are younger they need to be disciplined.
I understand what you are saying but this kid was falling asleep in my 9th grade class every day because he didn’t sleep at night. He was failing all of his classes. At times, you need to parent your high schoolers as well since they are not always capable of making good decisions. I’m almost 40 and my parents still parent me when I make decisions that they think are not good.
Agreed. I am speaking more of seniors who will be going off to school or the military or whatever within the following months and they are so dependent on their parents and them making decisions for themselves. I do get it is an individual thing as not everyone is the same. Just speaking overall.
What do you mean they parent you? Like how?
Give advice, direction, life experience.. I'm sure that is what she means. As all parents should. Parenting is a lifelong commitment. It doesn't end at 18.
Agree it is a lifelong commitment. I would keep many things to myself if I knew they would put their 2 cents in to something that I already made the decision and feel is the best for myself.
I think that when your kids are grown and out of the house you should not really be offering unsolicited advice for every circumstance. It is actually so annoying to me when my husband’s parents still try to parent him. He’s a grown man. But I come from a different perspective I guess because even as early on as high school my parents were teaching me that my decisions affected me and only me in the long run and I was extremely independent from a very young age.
Yep and I know some people who find the need to talk to their parents multiple times a day and tell them every detail of their lives. If that works for you, well then continue. I don’t find the need to tell my parents everything we do or the kids do and I don’t usually ask for advice. I don’t want to hear this or that didn’t work out because I didn’t take their advice. You should be able as an adult to make your own decisions. Not saying that they can’t help out with things but overall, I don’t share my entire day or week or life. Honestly I tell my friends more than my parents many times as they understand more.
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Re: TikTok School Challenges
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by lululu
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mommy2devin
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by BFNY516
People will also blame social media and phones but.. who buys the phones? The iPad? The computer? Who Allows the apps? Parents. Ultimately, parents are responsible for the actions of their kids in eyes of the law. Maybe not in the court of public opinion (and I do agree with some of Windy’s points) but the law would require a parent to pay up for their kids actions.
This is the problem. Parents buy the devices, but many do not monitor them. Some of my students have their phones locked down. Their parents literally take their phones at bedtime and the kids don’t get them back until they leave for school.
Meanwhile, I had a kid who told me he never slept at night due to playing with his phone/video games and when I asked the mom to take those things away at night so he could sleep, she was adamant that she couldn’t take away his things. I said who pays for “his” things.
I totally get that for younger kids. I have seen parents taking away phones or turning off WiFi very early with kids who will be out on their own the following year.
Kids have to learn how to be more independent BUT when they are younger they need to be disciplined.
I understand what you are saying but this kid was falling asleep in my 9th grade class every day because he didn’t sleep at night. He was failing all of his classes. At times, you need to parent your high schoolers as well since they are not always capable of making good decisions. I’m almost 40 and my parents still parent me when I make decisions that they think are not good.
Agreed. I am speaking more of seniors who will be going off to school or the military or whatever within the following months and they are so dependent on their parents and them making decisions for themselves. I do get it is an individual thing as not everyone is the same. Just speaking overall.
What do you mean they parent you? Like how?
Give advice, direction, life experience.. I'm sure that is what she means. As all parents should. Parenting is a lifelong commitment. It doesn't end at 18.
Agree it is a lifelong commitment. I would keep many things to myself if I knew they would put their 2 cents in to something that I already made the decision and feel is the best for myself.
I think that when your kids are grown and out of the house you should not really be offering unsolicited advice for every circumstance. It is actually so annoying to me when my husband’s parents still try to parent him. He’s a grown man. But I come from a different perspective I guess because even as early on as high school my parents were teaching me that my decisions affected me and only me in the long run and I was extremely independent from a very young age.
Yep and I know some people who find the need to talk to their parents multiple times a day and tell them every detail of their lives. If that works for you, well then continue. I don’t find the need to tell my parents everything we do or the kids do and I don’t usually ask for advice. I don’t want to hear this or that didn’t work out because I didn’t take their advice. You should be able as an adult to make your own decisions. Not saying that they can’t help out with things but overall, I don’t share my entire day or week or life. Honestly I tell my friends more than my parents many times as they understand more.
Same and agree with all of this.
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