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blu6385
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Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
I try to stay inform and do research on my own. not listed to social media memes and people spewing stuff!
But are they really basing positivity rates only on people are testing versus the whole population and if so why???!!! how does that make sense.
From what I can see that is how they got the numbers only based on those tested.
I am not in denial of covid; i don't believe the government is trying to control us or the tons of other conspiracy theories out there.
But i am annoyed that these positivity rate is base of just those who are tested versus the population.
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
The percent positive is based on people who got tested. So like the link below, where it says Nassau is 2.9% and the Suffolk is 3.4%, that means 2.9% of the people who got tested in Nassau and 3.4% of the people who got tested in Suffolk were positive (those numbers are for yesterday).
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
Correct. This is how Suffolk Health puts up their numbers if you click on their link:
COVID-19 Viral Testing- On July 31, 2021
• 6,699 COVID-19 tests were administered
230 positive cases
Which means that 3.4% were positive that day for the amount of people tested.
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KarenK122
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Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
You are correct and it is skewing the numbers. I really don't care if people test positive but have no symptoms. I want to know how many people are in the hospital because of it. That is the issue we were trying to avoid the last 18 months and what we should continue to try to avoid.
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
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You are correct and it is skewing the numbers. I really don't care if people test positive but have no symptoms. I want to know how many people are in the hospital because of it. That is the issue we were trying to avoid the last 18 months and what we should continue to try to avoid.
Yup - it's insanity.
Hospitalization actually decreased in my county from last week - it was 7 with one unconfirmed, now it's 5 with two unconfirmed.
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blu6385
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
Am I the only one who thinks this Is stupid and don’t understand how it make sense? Why wouldn’t they base it on the population.
I feel like there has to be some Scientific answer to it. If not then I can’t get behind numbers.
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Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
The positivity rate is usually shared right along side the number of positives so you have that information as well. I think after a year and a half of this, it's obvious that trends in the positivity rate do give us an idea of what's happening overall. If the rate is high and staying high, low and staying low, low but consistently rising each day that is going to give you an idea of how things are going. A positivity rate measured out of the entire population would be a much smaller number and so trends might be harder to tease out or easier to dismiss.
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
Posted by blu6385
Am I the only one who thinks this Is stupid and don’t understand how it make sense? Why wouldn’t they base it on the population.
I feel like there has to be some Scientific answer to it. If not then I can’t get behind numbers.
I agree with you. If they're only looking at the people who tested, I feel you need to know why they are being testing in the first place. Is it because people are travelling and need it? Or because they were in contact with someone who is positive? The less people that get tested, the greater the positivity rate, assuming the same number of positives.
It's like at the beginning of the pandemic, the data said that the majority of the positives were people who were primarily at home. Cuomo was like "Wow! These people didn't go anywhere and they got the virus!" But, if you looked at the rest of the slide, it said that the remaining people who were positive were nursing home residents, prisoners, etc. Well, duh! Of course then the majority were people at home! That's where the majority of people live! It's like saying the majority of people who sleep in their bedroom got the virus vs people who sleep on the couch.
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ali120206
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
Posted by nycbuslady
Posted by blu6385
Am I the only one who thinks this Is stupid and don’t understand how it make sense? Why wouldn’t they base it on the population.
I feel like there has to be some Scientific answer to it. If not then I can’t get behind numbers.
I agree with you. If they're only looking at the people who tested, I feel you need to know why they are being testing in the first place. Is it because people are travelling and need it? Or because they were in contact with someone who is positive? The less people that get tested, the greater the positivity rate, assuming the same number of positives.
It's like at the beginning of the pandemic, the data said that the majority of the positives were people who were primarily at home. Cuomo was like "Wow! These people didn't go anywhere and they got the virus!" But, if you looked at the rest of the slide, it said that the remaining people who were positive were nursing home residents, prisoners, etc. Well, duh! Of course then the majority were people at home! That's where the majority of people live! It's like saying the majority of people who sleep in their bedroom got the virus vs people who sleep on the couch.
So much of the messaging around this has been very misleading.
Also - I think more people are testing now that may be vaccinated as they have been told more vaccinated folks are getting the Delta Variant. There may have been vaccinated folks the past few months who didn't test as they were told they didn't have to (and in fact they did have Covid).
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Posted by ali120206
Posted by nycbuslady
Posted by blu6385
Am I the only one who thinks this Is stupid and don’t understand how it make sense? Why wouldn’t they base it on the population.
I feel like there has to be some Scientific answer to it. If not then I can’t get behind numbers.
I agree with you. If they're only looking at the people who tested, I feel you need to know why they are being testing in the first place. Is it because people are travelling and need it? Or because they were in contact with someone who is positive? The less people that get tested, the greater the positivity rate, assuming the same number of positives.
It's like at the beginning of the pandemic, the data said that the majority of the positives were people who were primarily at home. Cuomo was like "Wow! These people didn't go anywhere and they got the virus!" But, if you looked at the rest of the slide, it said that the remaining people who were positive were nursing home residents, prisoners, etc. Well, duh! Of course then the majority were people at home! That's where the majority of people live! It's like saying the majority of people who sleep in their bedroom got the virus vs people who sleep on the couch.
So much of the messaging around this has been very misleading.
Also - I think more people are testing now that may be vaccinated as they have been told more vaccinated folks are getting the Delta Variant. There may have been vaccinated folks the past few months who didn't test as they were told they didn't have to (and in fact they did have Covid).
Funny too, when you go and get tested, they can't even tell you if you have the Delta variant. It all makes no sense at all.
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ali120206
Posted by nycbuslady
Posted by blu6385
Am I the only one who thinks this Is stupid and don’t understand how it make sense? Why wouldn’t they base it on the population.
I feel like there has to be some Scientific answer to it. If not then I can’t get behind numbers.
I agree with you. If they're only looking at the people who tested, I feel you need to know why they are being testing in the first place. Is it because people are travelling and need it? Or because they were in contact with someone who is positive? The less people that get tested, the greater the positivity rate, assuming the same number of positives.
It's like at the beginning of the pandemic, the data said that the majority of the positives were people who were primarily at home. Cuomo was like "Wow! These people didn't go anywhere and they got the virus!" But, if you looked at the rest of the slide, it said that the remaining people who were positive were nursing home residents, prisoners, etc. Well, duh! Of course then the majority were people at home! That's where the majority of people live! It's like saying the majority of people who sleep in their bedroom got the virus vs people who sleep on the couch.
So much of the messaging around this has been very misleading.
Also - I think more people are testing now that may be vaccinated as they have been told more vaccinated folks are getting the Delta Variant. There may have been vaccinated folks the past few months who didn't test as they were told they didn't have to (and in fact they did have Covid).
Funny too, when you go and get tested, they can't even tell you if you have the Delta variant. It all makes no sense at all.
OK? Now you can stop asking this question a 100 more times, that you could have looked up yourself:
A PCR test looks for the presence of viral genetic material in someone's body. If a PCR test returns positive, a patient's sample will typically go through a more detailed analysis called genomic sequencing. This technique decodes the coronavirus' genome, searching for any new mutations – or ones that match known variants.
Variant testing
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Posted by chilltocam
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Posted by ali120206
Posted by nycbuslady
Posted by blu6385
Am I the only one who thinks this Is stupid and don’t understand how it make sense? Why wouldn’t they base it on the population.
I feel like there has to be some Scientific answer to it. If not then I can’t get behind numbers.
I agree with you. If they're only looking at the people who tested, I feel you need to know why they are being testing in the first place. Is it because people are travelling and need it? Or because they were in contact with someone who is positive? The less people that get tested, the greater the positivity rate, assuming the same number of positives.
It's like at the beginning of the pandemic, the data said that the majority of the positives were people who were primarily at home. Cuomo was like "Wow! These people didn't go anywhere and they got the virus!" But, if you looked at the rest of the slide, it said that the remaining people who were positive were nursing home residents, prisoners, etc. Well, duh! Of course then the majority were people at home! That's where the majority of people live! It's like saying the majority of people who sleep in their bedroom got the virus vs people who sleep on the couch.
So much of the messaging around this has been very misleading.
Also - I think more people are testing now that may be vaccinated as they have been told more vaccinated folks are getting the Delta Variant. There may have been vaccinated folks the past few months who didn't test as they were told they didn't have to (and in fact they did have Covid).
Funny too, when you go and get tested, they can't even tell you if you have the Delta variant. It all makes no sense at all.
OK? Now you can stop asking this question a 100 more times, that you could have looked up yourself:
A PCR test looks for the presence of viral genetic material in someone's body. If a PCR test returns positive, a patient's sample will typically go through a more detailed analysis called genomic sequencing. This technique decodes the coronavirus' genome, searching for any new mutations – or ones that match known variants.
Variant testing
Actually I heard it from someone who was just tested but thanks for the link.
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busymomonli
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ali120206
Posted by nycbuslady
Posted by blu6385
Am I the only one who thinks this Is stupid and don’t understand how it make sense? Why wouldn’t they base it on the population.
I feel like there has to be some Scientific answer to it. If not then I can’t get behind numbers.
I agree with you. If they're only looking at the people who tested, I feel you need to know why they are being testing in the first place. Is it because people are travelling and need it? Or because they were in contact with someone who is positive? The less people that get tested, the greater the positivity rate, assuming the same number of positives.
It's like at the beginning of the pandemic, the data said that the majority of the positives were people who were primarily at home. Cuomo was like "Wow! These people didn't go anywhere and they got the virus!" But, if you looked at the rest of the slide, it said that the remaining people who were positive were nursing home residents, prisoners, etc. Well, duh! Of course then the majority were people at home! That's where the majority of people live! It's like saying the majority of people who sleep in their bedroom got the virus vs people who sleep on the couch.
So much of the messaging around this has been very misleading.
Also - I think more people are testing now that may be vaccinated as they have been told more vaccinated folks are getting the Delta Variant. There may have been vaccinated folks the past few months who didn't test as they were told they didn't have to (and in fact they did have Covid).
Funny too, when you go and get tested, they can't even tell you if you have the Delta variant. It all makes no sense at all.
OK? Now you can stop asking this question a 100 more times, that you could have looked up yourself:
A PCR test looks for the presence of viral genetic material in someone's body. If a PCR test returns positive, a patient's sample will typically go through a more detailed analysis called genomic sequencing. This technique decodes the coronavirus' genome, searching for any new mutations – or ones that match known variants.
Variant testing
Curious though, do they then call you and tell you that you have the Delta variant. I doubt it. You just know you are positive. Does anyone know of someone who knows they had the DV?
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
Posted by busymomonli
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ali120206
Posted by nycbuslady
Posted by blu6385
Am I the only one who thinks this Is stupid and don’t understand how it make sense? Why wouldn’t they base it on the population.
I feel like there has to be some Scientific answer to it. If not then I can’t get behind numbers.
I agree with you. If they're only looking at the people who tested, I feel you need to know why they are being testing in the first place. Is it because people are travelling and need it? Or because they were in contact with someone who is positive? The less people that get tested, the greater the positivity rate, assuming the same number of positives.
It's like at the beginning of the pandemic, the data said that the majority of the positives were people who were primarily at home. Cuomo was like "Wow! These people didn't go anywhere and they got the virus!" But, if you looked at the rest of the slide, it said that the remaining people who were positive were nursing home residents, prisoners, etc. Well, duh! Of course then the majority were people at home! That's where the majority of people live! It's like saying the majority of people who sleep in their bedroom got the virus vs people who sleep on the couch.
So much of the messaging around this has been very misleading.
Also - I think more people are testing now that may be vaccinated as they have been told more vaccinated folks are getting the Delta Variant. There may have been vaccinated folks the past few months who didn't test as they were told they didn't have to (and in fact they did have Covid).
Funny too, when you go and get tested, they can't even tell you if you have the Delta variant. It all makes no sense at all.
OK? Now you can stop asking this question a 100 more times, that you could have looked up yourself:
A PCR test looks for the presence of viral genetic material in someone's body. If a PCR test returns positive, a patient's sample will typically go through a more detailed analysis called genomic sequencing. This technique decodes the coronavirus' genome, searching for any new mutations – or ones that match known variants.
Variant testing
Curious though, do they then call you and tell you that you have the Delta variant. I doubt it. You just know you are positive. Does anyone know of someone who knows they had the DV?
The delta variant makes up over 85% of all current covid cases in the US now. So almost everyone positive now has Delta.
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ali120206
Posted by nycbuslady
Posted by blu6385
Am I the only one who thinks this Is stupid and don’t understand how it make sense? Why wouldn’t they base it on the population.
I feel like there has to be some Scientific answer to it. If not then I can’t get behind numbers.
I agree with you. If they're only looking at the people who tested, I feel you need to know why they are being testing in the first place. Is it because people are travelling and need it? Or because they were in contact with someone who is positive? The less people that get tested, the greater the positivity rate, assuming the same number of positives.
It's like at the beginning of the pandemic, the data said that the majority of the positives were people who were primarily at home. Cuomo was like "Wow! These people didn't go anywhere and they got the virus!" But, if you looked at the rest of the slide, it said that the remaining people who were positive were nursing home residents, prisoners, etc. Well, duh! Of course then the majority were people at home! That's where the majority of people live! It's like saying the majority of people who sleep in their bedroom got the virus vs people who sleep on the couch.
So much of the messaging around this has been very misleading.
Also - I think more people are testing now that may be vaccinated as they have been told more vaccinated folks are getting the Delta Variant. There may have been vaccinated folks the past few months who didn't test as they were told they didn't have to (and in fact they did have Covid).
Funny too, when you go and get tested, they can't even tell you if you have the Delta variant. It all makes no sense at all.
OK? Now you can stop asking this question a 100 more times, that you could have looked up yourself:
A PCR test looks for the presence of viral genetic material in someone's body. If a PCR test returns positive, a patient's sample will typically go through a more detailed analysis called genomic sequencing. This technique decodes the coronavirus' genome, searching for any new mutations – or ones that match known variants.
Variant testing
Actually I heard it from someone who was just tested but thanks for the link.
You're literal go to response for everything "I heard it from someone" like you must know some real winners
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tray831
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
Posted by busymomonli
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ali120206
Posted by nycbuslady
Posted by blu6385
Am I the only one who thinks this Is stupid and don’t understand how it make sense? Why wouldn’t they base it on the population.
I feel like there has to be some Scientific answer to it. If not then I can’t get behind numbers.
I agree with you. If they're only looking at the people who tested, I feel you need to know why they are being testing in the first place. Is it because people are travelling and need it? Or because they were in contact with someone who is positive? The less people that get tested, the greater the positivity rate, assuming the same number of positives.
It's like at the beginning of the pandemic, the data said that the majority of the positives were people who were primarily at home. Cuomo was like "Wow! These people didn't go anywhere and they got the virus!" But, if you looked at the rest of the slide, it said that the remaining people who were positive were nursing home residents, prisoners, etc. Well, duh! Of course then the majority were people at home! That's where the majority of people live! It's like saying the majority of people who sleep in their bedroom got the virus vs people who sleep on the couch.
So much of the messaging around this has been very misleading.
Also - I think more people are testing now that may be vaccinated as they have been told more vaccinated folks are getting the Delta Variant. There may have been vaccinated folks the past few months who didn't test as they were told they didn't have to (and in fact they did have Covid).
Funny too, when you go and get tested, they can't even tell you if you have the Delta variant. It all makes no sense at all.
OK? Now you can stop asking this question a 100 more times, that you could have looked up yourself:
A PCR test looks for the presence of viral genetic material in someone's body. If a PCR test returns positive, a patient's sample will typically go through a more detailed analysis called genomic sequencing. This technique decodes the coronavirus' genome, searching for any new mutations – or ones that match known variants.
Variant testing
Curious though, do they then call you and tell you that you have the Delta variant. I doubt it. You just know you are positive. Does anyone know of someone who knows they had the DV?
No, they cannot tell the difference.
Covid is covid IMO.
But I do know it has been mentioned by the DOH that this Variant is much more contagious but a lot more mild. So I guess you would go by that and use your best judgement.
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GoldenRod
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
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Curious though, do they then call you and tell you that you have the Delta variant. I doubt it. You just know you are positive. Does anyone know of someone who knows they had the DV?
No, they cannot tell the difference.
Covid is covid IMO.
But I do know it has been mentioned by the DOH that this Variant is much more contagious but a lot more mild. So I guess you would go by that and use your best judgement.
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2021/08/yes-there-is-a-test-to-identify-the-delta-variant-despite-what-you-might-have-seen-online.html
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CLAIM: No test can identify COVID-19 variants. Tests can only determine if a person is positive or negative for the disease.
THE FACTS: Social media users are taking advantage of growing concerns around the coronavirus delta variant to push out misinformation online, including false claims that health professionals are lying to patients about contracting the variant and that a test for it does not exist.
In fact, it is possible to test for variants using genome sequencing. “It’s the patterns of mutations in the genome that determine the differences,” said Dr. Phil Febbo, chief medical officer for Illumina, a San Diego-based company that develops genomic sequencing technologies.
Viruses mutate or change as they spread, creating variants. Variants can make a virus more transmissible or lead to more severe disease. Repositories online allow medical officials to scan and see all the different sequences of the virus.
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The regular tests can't tell the difference, but they send a percentage of the tests to get sequenced to find out the variants.
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Curious though, do they then call you and tell you that you have the Delta variant. I doubt it. You just know you are positive. Does anyone know of someone who knows they had the DV?
No, they cannot tell the difference.
Covid is covid IMO.
But I do know it has been mentioned by the DOH that this Variant is much more contagious but a lot more mild. So I guess you would go by that and use your best judgement.
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2021/08/yes-there-is-a-test-to-identify-the-delta-variant-despite-what-you-might-have-seen-online.html
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CLAIM: No test can identify COVID-19 variants. Tests can only determine if a person is positive or negative for the disease.
THE FACTS: Social media users are taking advantage of growing concerns around the coronavirus delta variant to push out misinformation online, including false claims that health professionals are lying to patients about contracting the variant and that a test for it does not exist.
In fact, it is possible to test for variants using genome sequencing. “It’s the patterns of mutations in the genome that determine the differences,” said Dr. Phil Febbo, chief medical officer for Illumina, a San Diego-based company that develops genomic sequencing technologies.
Viruses mutate or change as they spread, creating variants. Variants can make a virus more transmissible or lead to more severe disease. Repositories online allow medical officials to scan and see all the different sequences of the virus.
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The regular tests can't tell the difference, but they send a percentage of the tests to get sequenced to find out the variants.
So is there data showing the percentage of these sequenced tests?
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Re: Can Someone explain the positivity rates with covid?
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions
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Interesting, thank you.
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