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NervousNell
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Anotherplease
So in a dream scenario, what would those of you who think that voting isn’t accessible to enough do? Like have someone go get those disenfranchised voters and bring them to a voting site? If online or absentee ballot send someone to help them do it? I really am curious as to what will make it fair and equal for all since apparently there must be some serious voter suppression going on. Look at all these pages saying that Georgia is making it worse!
Perhaps go to them all with a paper ballot and pen and hold it for them as they fill in the bubbles. I mean there has to be people who can't hold a pen who are being suppressed as well.
They are there along with those who were born in a manger and therefore have no birth certificate as an earlier poster brought up.
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Maybe even advising the voters on who to vote for since that would require them to do their own research and that is asking way too much
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CookiePuss
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Anotherplease
So in a dream scenario, what would those of you who think that voting isn’t accessible to enough do? Like have someone go get those disenfranchised voters and bring them to a voting site? If online or absentee ballot send someone to help them do it? I really am curious as to what will make it fair and equal for all since apparently there must be some serious voter suppression going on. Look at all these pages saying that Georgia is making it worse!
It's not a belief that voting is not accessible.
It's the belief that the changes in the GA Voting laws are aimed to create voter suppression.
You can all joke about driving people there or holding their pens but voter suppression is an issue. It's a long standing issue.
Taylor - Green is the result of such legislation that allows a person like that to gain a congressional seat.
ETA: I did enjoy most of the debate on this topic but I think it's been done by myself and others.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Anotherplease
So in a dream scenario, what would those of you who think that voting isn’t accessible to enough do? Like have someone go get those disenfranchised voters and bring them to a voting site? If online or absentee ballot send someone to help them do it? I really am curious as to what will make it fair and equal for all since apparently there must be some serious voter suppression going on. Look at all these pages saying that Georgia is making it worse!
Perhaps go to them all with a paper ballot and pen and hold it for them as they fill in the bubbles. I mean there has to be people who can't hold a pen who are being suppressed as well.
They are there along with those who were born in a manager and therefore have no birth certificate as an earlier poster brought up.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Anotherplease
So in a dream scenario, what would those of you who think that voting isn’t accessible to enough do? Like have someone go get those disenfranchised voters and bring them to a voting site? If online or absentee ballot send someone to help them do it? I really am curious as to what will make it fair and equal for all since apparently there must be some serious voter suppression going on. Look at all these pages saying that Georgia is making it worse!
Perhaps go to them all with a paper ballot and pen and hold it for them as they fill in the bubbles. I mean there has to be people who can't hold a pen who are being suppressed as well.
They are there along with those who were born in a manager and therefore have no birth certificate as an earlier poster brought up.
A manger... ha ha ha ha. For the win, mic drop, this debate should be done with just this post.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by CookiePuss
Much of the debate on here has focused on the issued of gov't ID but there are other areas of concern.
Leaving the the ID issue aside...do you think these changes in the GA are really aimed at integrity or is i more of an attempt at making voting harder?
What is the purpose and intent of these laws with regards to:
reducing hours for absentee voting?
The new limit on absentee ballot drop boxes ie: Atlanta going from 94 last year to fewer then 25. What is the purpose of cutting boxes by over 70% especially in urban areas?
Why ban mobile voting centers?
Why did the Republican legislature need to take control of the state election board? Why does the state have the right to suspend county election officials and replace them at will?
Do any of those provisions fit the narrative of making the integrity of the elections better then they had been?
Have there always been that many drop boxes or was it just because of covid?
I just feel like, if you want to vote that badly you will do what you need to do. Stop making excuses. We have such an entitled generation that literally doesn’t want to get off their butt to vote. I remember waiting in line with my mom with my siblings....did she want to take us all out and make us wait in a line? No, but she wanted to vote and did what she had to do. Like a previous poster mentioned earlier, people will make it work if it’s that important to them.
(Obviously there are people who can not physically get out and vote..I’m talking about these young able bodied people who think the world needs to change....get off your butt already and stop making everyone do everything for you)
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by CookiePuss
Much of the debate on here has focused on the issued of gov't ID but there are other areas of concern.
Leaving the the ID issue aside...do you think these changes in the GA are really aimed at integrity or is i more of an attempt at making voting harder?
What is the purpose and intent of these laws with regards to:
reducing hours for absentee voting?
The new limit on absentee ballot drop boxes ie: Atlanta going from 94 last year to fewer then 25. What is the purpose of cutting boxes by over 70% especially in urban areas?
Why ban mobile voting centers?
Why did the Republican legislature need to take control of the state election board? Why does the state have the right to suspend county election officials and replace them at will?
Do any of those provisions fit the narrative of making the integrity of the elections better then they had been?
Have there always been that many drop boxes or was it just because of covid?
I just feel like, if you want to vote that badly you will do what you need to do. Stop making excuses. We have such an entitled generation that literally doesn’t want to get off their butt to vote. I remember waiting in line with my mom with my siblings....did she want to take us all out and make us wait in a line? No, but she wanted to vote and did what she had to do. Like a previous poster mentioned earlier, people will make it work if it’s that important to them.
(Obviously there are people who can not physically get out and vote..I’m talking about these young able bodied people who think the world needs to change....get off your butt already and stop making everyone do everything for you)
“ We have such an entitled generation that literally doesn’t want to get off their butt to vote”
Yes!!!
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Naturalmama
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Georgia voting law
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it everybody else should be able to do it too.
I don’t think anyone here is denying there are some that just can not get out of their house to vote or get an ID.
Do we think it is more than ones who are just lazy or not interested in voting or getting an ID? Probably not.
The media tries to pull at heart strings while we have a nation of lazy people who don’t even go shopping anymore as it is easier to do everything online while they sit on the couch.
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Mill188
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
Have there always been that many drop boxes or was it just because of covid?
The drop boxes were new under the governor’s executive order during Covid. They never had them before the 2020 presidential election. The new law actually makes them permanent. So there’s really no “reduction.”
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
Unfortunately, there are many people who seem to think that the anecdotal stories from their very small existence are somehow applicable to the world as a whole. It's so small minded. The reality is that there are large swaths of the population that face a multitude of obstacles and issues that most of us cannot even begin to relate to or understand. As a society, it's important that we be sensitive to that fact.
The argument over voting ID is simply going in circles and is distracting from the real issue which is the many efforts that are put into voter suppression. Regardless of anyone's lot in life (rich, poor, dumb, smart, black, white etc) we ALL have a constitutional right to vote. Period. As such, our elected officials should be doing all that they can to expand voting rights and accessibility for EVERYONE. Being hung up on voter ID as if it's some "game changer" in an election is very short sighted and plays into the unfounded claims of rampant voter fraud.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
It wasn’t easy for my parents to vote with all us kids BUT THEY DID IT.
It wasn’t easy for your grandparents BUT THEY DID IT.
People today are LAZY. they want everything handed to them on a silver platter and they want to be rewarded and acknowledged for every single thing. Just look at how upset people got because they didn’t get a “I voted” sticker lol
Like the previous post said, many people don’t go food shopping. They sit home and order online. They don’t go to Dunkin to pick up coffee, they order online to be delivered.
I just feel like we cater to people who don’t need to be catered to. You already get a couple extra days to vote....not enough. You get drop boxes....it’s not enough. Wait in line, walk or drive the extra couple minutes, find a family member or friend to drop it off. If they told you to wait in line or drive an hour to pick up a stimulus check watch how quickly people will get up and go and how long they will wait.
ETA that by catering to EVERYONE it is hurting the ones that really need accommodations.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
Unfortunately, there are many people who seem to think that the anecdotal stories from their very small existence are somehow applicable to the world as a whole. It's so small minded. The reality is that there are large swaths of the population that face a multitude of obstacles and issues that most of us cannot even begin to relate to or understand. As a society, it's important that we be sensitive to that fact.
The argument over voting ID is simply going in circles and is distracting from the real issue which is the many efforts that are put into voter suppression. Regardless of anyone's lot in life (rich, poor, dumb, smart, black, white etc) we ALL have a constitutional right to vote. Period. As such, our elected officials should be doing all that they can to expand voting rights and accessibility for EVERYONE. Being hung up on voter ID as if it's some "game changer" in an election is very short sighted and plays into the unfounded claims of rampant voter fraud.
Right now....everyone can vote. It’s whether or not they choose to make it work or be lazy. No one is denied the right, it’s just not convenient for them.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Mill188
Posted by LittleDiva
Have there always been that many drop boxes or was it just because of covid?
The drop boxes were new under the governor’s executive order during Covid. They never had them before the 2020 presidential election. The new law actually makes them permanent. So there’s really no “reduction.”
So what’s the problem? This sounds like the opposite of voter suppression? Citizens got something permanent that never existed before? Ohhhh....they want more more more.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
It wasn’t easy for my parents to vote with all us kids BUT THEY DID IT.
It wasn’t easy for your grandparents BUT THEY DID IT.
People today are LAZY. they want everything handed to them on a silver platter and they want to be rewarded and acknowledged for every single thing. Just look at how upset people got because they didn’t get a “I voted” sticker lol
Like the previous post said, many people don’t go food shopping. They sit home and order online. They don’t go to Dunkin to pick up coffee, they order online to be delivered.
I just feel like we cater to people who don’t need to be catered to. You already get a couple extra days to vote....not enough. You get drop boxes....it’s not enough. Wait in line, walk or drive the extra couple minutes, find a family member or friend to drop it off. If they told you to wait in line or drive an hour to pick up a stimulus check watch how quickly people will get up and go and how long they will wait.
ETA that by catering to EVERYONE it is hurting the ones that really need accommodations.
I know this is off topic, tsk tsk on me, but it reminds me of Willy Wonka when the grandfather laid in bed all day and night until he found out Charlie got the golden ticket. How he jumped up and was just fine. Lol
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
Unfortunately, there are many people who seem to think that the anecdotal stories from their very small existence are somehow applicable to the world as a whole. It's so small minded. The reality is that there are large swaths of the population that face a multitude of obstacles and issues that most of us cannot even begin to relate to or understand. As a society, it's important that we be sensitive to that fact.
The argument over voting ID is simply going in circles and is distracting from the real issue which is the many efforts that are put into voter suppression. Regardless of anyone's lot in life (rich, poor, dumb, smart, black, white etc) we ALL have a constitutional right to vote. Period. As such, our elected officials should be doing all that they can to expand voting rights and accessibility for EVERYONE. Being hung up on voter ID as if it's some "game changer" in an election is very short sighted and plays into the unfounded claims of rampant voter fraud.
Right now....everyone can vote. It’s whether or not they choose to make it work or be lazy. No one is denied the right, it’s just not convenient for them.
Wrong. We all have the right to vote but we most definitely don't all have the same level of accessibility and ease in voting. Your comment is so ignorant to the very real issue of voter suppression. Have you ever waited on line for HOURS to vote only to be shut out at the polls? Have you ever had trouble locating your own polling place? Have you ever dealt with a lack of polling places? These are just a few of the issues in counties across the nation. It has nothing to do with one's personal inconvenience, it's that voting is intentionally made more difficult for certain populations of people.
This statement makes you sound like a self entitled Karen. I'm actually embarrassed for you.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
Unfortunately, there are many people who seem to think that the anecdotal stories from their very small existence are somehow applicable to the world as a whole. It's so small minded. The reality is that there are large swaths of the population that face a multitude of obstacles and issues that most of us cannot even begin to relate to or understand. As a society, it's important that we be sensitive to that fact.
The argument over voting ID is simply going in circles and is distracting from the real issue which is the many efforts that are put into voter suppression. Regardless of anyone's lot in life (rich, poor, dumb, smart, black, white etc) we ALL have a constitutional right to vote. Period. As such, our elected officials should be doing all that they can to expand voting rights and accessibility for EVERYONE. Being hung up on voter ID as if it's some "game changer" in an election is very short sighted and plays into the unfounded claims of rampant voter fraud.
Right now....everyone can vote. It’s whether or not they choose to make it work or be lazy. No one is denied the right, it’s just not convenient for them.
Wrong. We all have the right to vote but we most definitely don't all have the same level of accessibility and ease in voting. Your comment is so ignorant to the very real issue of voter suppression. Have you ever waited on line for HOURS to vote only to be shut out at the polls? Have you ever had trouble locating your own polling place? Have you ever dealt with a lack of polling places? These are just a few of the issues in counties across the nation. It has nothing to do with one's personal inconvenience, it's that voting is intentionally made more difficult for certain populations of people.
This statement makes you sound like a self entitled Karen. I'm actually embarrassed for you.
Wow! This happened to you?
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If the lines anywhere are too long I just leave. So living in this overpopulated area I tend to leave a lot of places. Does that make me an entitled Karen? I am actually ok with that
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
Unfortunately, there are many people who seem to think that the anecdotal stories from their very small existence are somehow applicable to the world as a whole. It's so small minded. The reality is that there are large swaths of the population that face a multitude of obstacles and issues that most of us cannot even begin to relate to or understand. As a society, it's important that we be sensitive to that fact.
The argument over voting ID is simply going in circles and is distracting from the real issue which is the many efforts that are put into voter suppression. Regardless of anyone's lot in life (rich, poor, dumb, smart, black, white etc) we ALL have a constitutional right to vote. Period. As such, our elected officials should be doing all that they can to expand voting rights and accessibility for EVERYONE. Being hung up on voter ID as if it's some "game changer" in an election is very short sighted and plays into the unfounded claims of rampant voter fraud.
Right now....everyone can vote. It’s whether or not they choose to make it work or be lazy. No one is denied the right, it’s just not convenient for them.
Wrong. We all have the right to vote but we most definitely don't all have the same level of accessibility and ease in voting. Your comment is so ignorant to the very real issue of voter suppression. Have you ever waited on line for HOURS to vote only to be shut out at the polls? Have you ever had trouble locating your own polling place? Have you ever dealt with a lack of polling places? These are just a few of the issues in counties across the nation. It has nothing to do with one's personal inconvenience, it's that voting is intentionally made more difficult for certain populations of people.
This statement makes you sound like a self entitled Karen. I'm actually embarrassed for you.
So funny you bring this up. Actually this year I sat in line for two hours in the rain on an early voting day.
My husband, who is insisted on voting on Election Day, had his polling place switched. Now, it’s his own fault for not looking it up. But turns out my entire area was moved 20 minutes away while there were two other closer locations. Guess what....he wanted to vote so he complained to me and got over it.
It’s life, things won’t go as planned. But if you want to do something than you do it. If you want to make excuses go ahead.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
Unfortunately, there are many people who seem to think that the anecdotal stories from their very small existence are somehow applicable to the world as a whole. It's so small minded. The reality is that there are large swaths of the population that face a multitude of obstacles and issues that most of us cannot even begin to relate to or understand. As a society, it's important that we be sensitive to that fact.
The argument over voting ID is simply going in circles and is distracting from the real issue which is the many efforts that are put into voter suppression. Regardless of anyone's lot in life (rich, poor, dumb, smart, black, white etc) we ALL have a constitutional right to vote. Period. As such, our elected officials should be doing all that they can to expand voting rights and accessibility for EVERYONE. Being hung up on voter ID as if it's some "game changer" in an election is very short sighted and plays into the unfounded claims of rampant voter fraud.
Right now....everyone can vote. It’s whether or not they choose to make it work or be lazy. No one is denied the right, it’s just not convenient for them.
Wrong. We all have the right to vote but we most definitely don't all have the same level of accessibility and ease in voting. Your comment is so ignorant to the very real issue of voter suppression. Have you ever waited on line for HOURS to vote only to be shut out at the polls? Have you ever had trouble locating your own polling place? Have you ever dealt with a lack of polling places? These are just a few of the issues in counties across the nation. It has nothing to do with one's personal inconvenience, it's that voting is intentionally made more difficult for certain populations of people.
This statement makes you sound like a self entitled Karen. I'm actually embarrassed for you.
So funny you bring this up. Actually this year I sat in line for two hours in the rain on an early voting day.
My husband, who is insisted on voting on Election Day, had his polling place switched. Now, it’s his own fault for not looking it up. But turns out my entire area was moved 20 minutes away while there were two other closer locations. Guess what....he wanted to vote so he complained to me and got over it.
It’s life, things won’t go as planned. But if you want to do something than you do it. If you want to make excuses go ahead.
You really need to educate yourself before you speak. I don't get the sense that you really understand what voter suppression even is or how impactful it is in any given election cycle. You come across as very misinformed.
What is voter suppression.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
Unfortunately, there are many people who seem to think that the anecdotal stories from their very small existence are somehow applicable to the world as a whole. It's so small minded. The reality is that there are large swaths of the population that face a multitude of obstacles and issues that most of us cannot even begin to relate to or understand. As a society, it's important that we be sensitive to that fact.
The argument over voting ID is simply going in circles and is distracting from the real issue which is the many efforts that are put into voter suppression. Regardless of anyone's lot in life (rich, poor, dumb, smart, black, white etc) we ALL have a constitutional right to vote. Period. As such, our elected officials should be doing all that they can to expand voting rights and accessibility for EVERYONE. Being hung up on voter ID as if it's some "game changer" in an election is very short sighted and plays into the unfounded claims of rampant voter fraud.
Right now....everyone can vote. It’s whether or not they choose to make it work or be lazy. No one is denied the right, it’s just not convenient for them.
Wrong. We all have the right to vote but we most definitely don't all have the same level of accessibility and ease in voting. Your comment is so ignorant to the very real issue of voter suppression. Have you ever waited on line for HOURS to vote only to be shut out at the polls? Have you ever had trouble locating your own polling place? Have you ever dealt with a lack of polling places? These are just a few of the issues in counties across the nation. It has nothing to do with one's personal inconvenience, it's that voting is intentionally made more difficult for certain populations of people.
This statement makes you sound like a self entitled Karen. I'm actually embarrassed for you.
So funny you bring this up. Actually this year I sat in line for two hours in the rain on an early voting day.
My husband, who is insisted on voting on Election Day, had his polling place switched. Now, it’s his own fault for not looking it up. But turns out my entire area was moved 20 minutes away while there were two other closer locations. Guess what....he wanted to vote so he complained to me and got over it.
It’s life, things won’t go as planned. But if you want to do something than you do it. If you want to make excuses go ahead.
You really need to educate yourself before you speak. I don't get the sense that you really understand what voter suppression even is or how impactful it is in any given election cycle. You come across as very misinformed.
What is voter suppression.
You happen to give two examples that actually applied to me.
Great source by the way 
And I’m offended by you calling me a “Karen”. It’s racist and demeaning.
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Re: Georgia voting law
"Voter Suppression" Is a Myth, but It’s an Article of Faith to Liberals
Feb 14th, 2020 3 min read
COMMENTARY BY
Hans A. von Spakovsky
@HvonSpakovsky
Election Law Reform Initiative and Senior Legal Fellow
Hans von Spakovsky is an authority on a wide range of issues—including civil rights, civil justice, the First Amendment, immigration.
Misinformation is warping the minds of young people.
The focus of the liberals on the panel was the “voter suppression” meme that the left has been pushing for years to scare voters and their constituencies.
It’s a false narrative belied by the facts.
I received a strong dose of the misinformation warping the minds of young people this past weekend when I spoke on a panel on the subject of election integrity at the Washington conference of Junior State of America.
Conference attendees were high school students from the northeast and southeast parts of the country. I was on a five-member panel—and the only conservative on the panel—in a standing room-only crowd.
As you might imagine, the focus of the liberals on the panel was the “voter suppression” meme that the left has been pushing for years to scare voters and their
It’s a false narrative belied by the facts, such as the relatively high levels of turnout in a non-presidential year in 2018 in many states, including in Georgia, or the numerous studies that have concluded that voter ID laws are a commonsense reform that does not keep voters out of the voting booth.
One of those studies, released by the National Bureau of Economic Research in 2019, examined 10 years’ worth of turnout data from across the country and concluded that voter ID laws have “no negative effect on registration or turnout overall or for any specific group defined by race, gender, age, or party affiliation.”
A young woman asked me a question about institutionalized racism in the U.S. and implied that it was the fault of conservatives.
While being a conservative does not necessarily equate with being a Republican, I strongly denied that conservatism accepts, approves, or has anything to do with racism, and pointed out that, in fact, a larger percentage of Republican members of Congress than Democrats voted for the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Another member of the panel—the head of DC Vote, which wants the District of Columbia to get U.S. senators and representatives, just like a state—loudly scoffed and guffawed, obviously letting the audience know that he believed that what I said was untrue. Many of the more liberal students in the audience joined him.
These students do not appear to know the history of the Democratic Party’s participation in segregation, the imposition of Jim Crow, and the genuine and terrible suppression of black citizens after the end of Reconstruction and up to and through the civil rights movement of the 1960s.
But according to PolitiFact, which I assume is a source that all of the liberals on the panel (and in the audience) would consider to be reputable, here is how the votes went on the Civil Rights Act of 1964:
When it passed the U.S. House of Representatives, 80% of Republicans voted for it, compared with only 61% of Democrats.
When it passed the Senate, 82% of Republicans voted for it, compared with a little more than two-thirds of Democrats—and that vote occurred only after the Senate shut down the longest filibuster in its history, staged by Democratic senators.
Although I didn’t mention this in my answer, the same thing happened with the Voting Rights Act when it passed in 1965:
82% of Republicans in the House voted for it, compared with 78% of Democrats.
In the Senate, 73% of Democrats voted for passage, compared with a whopping 94% of the Republican senators.
So, I was right, and the scoffers were wrong.
Time was running short, so I did not get to say one final thing that I’m sure would have raised the hackles of my fellow panelists.
The one place where institutionalized racism—in the form of the explicit use of racial preferences—appears to be alive and well is in the admissions offices of Ivy League colleges and many other universities across the country.
Most, if not all, of the students in that room attending the Junior State of America conference will soon be applying to college. For some of them, the color of their skin will help get them into schools, while for others—such as Asian American students—their ethnic background will be held against them.
That’s something these students should be angry about, because all of their hard work, extracurricular activities, and community involvement may end up being discounted when they apply to college based on the color of their skin. And that’s nothing to scoff at.
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| Posted 4/7/21 1:33 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
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Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
Unfortunately, there are many people who seem to think that the anecdotal stories from their very small existence are somehow applicable to the world as a whole. It's so small minded. The reality is that there are large swaths of the population that face a multitude of obstacles and issues that most of us cannot even begin to relate to or understand. As a society, it's important that we be sensitive to that fact.
The argument over voting ID is simply going in circles and is distracting from the real issue which is the many efforts that are put into voter suppression. Regardless of anyone's lot in life (rich, poor, dumb, smart, black, white etc) we ALL have a constitutional right to vote. Period. As such, our elected officials should be doing all that they can to expand voting rights and accessibility for EVERYONE. Being hung up on voter ID as if it's some "game changer" in an election is very short sighted and plays into the unfounded claims of rampant voter fraud.
Right now....everyone can vote. It’s whether or not they choose to make it work or be lazy. No one is denied the right, it’s just not convenient for them.
Wrong. We all have the right to vote but we most definitely don't all have the same level of accessibility and ease in voting. Your comment is so ignorant to the very real issue of voter suppression. Have you ever waited on line for HOURS to vote only to be shut out at the polls? Have you ever had trouble locating your own polling place? Have you ever dealt with a lack of polling places? These are just a few of the issues in counties across the nation. It has nothing to do with one's personal inconvenience, it's that voting is intentionally made more difficult for certain populations of people.
This statement makes you sound like a self entitled Karen. I'm actually embarrassed for you.
So funny you bring this up. Actually this year I sat in line for two hours in the rain on an early voting day.
My husband, who is insisted on voting on Election Day, had his polling place switched. Now, it’s his own fault for not looking it up. But turns out my entire area was moved 20 minutes away while there were two other closer locations. Guess what....he wanted to vote so he complained to me and got over it.
It’s life, things won’t go as planned. But if you want to do something than you do it. If you want to make excuses go ahead.
You really need to educate yourself before you speak. I don't get the sense that you really understand what voter suppression even is or how impactful it is in any given election cycle. You come across as very misinformed.
What is voter suppression.
You happen to give two examples that actually applied to me.
Great source by the way
And I’m offended by you calling me a “Karen”. It’s racist and demeaning.
As are your comments above.
ETA - Hopefully you believe in encyclopedias.
VOTER SUPPRESSION
Message edited 4/7/2021 1:50:13 AM.
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RomeyT
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Naturalmama
I have never understood these people who say " Well my mother went to vote with all 47 of her children and while she was in line she also cooked dinner and carved a Swan out of ice and if she can do it then so can everybody else". It is so narrow minded and full of privilege. My grandparents came here from Italy and became us citizens but I am not naive enough to think because they were able to do it that it's so easy for everyone else. I don't know how so many people know so many entitled adults because many of the adults I know are extremely hard working and not looking for everybody to do things for them.
Unfortunately, there are many people who seem to think that the anecdotal stories from their very small existence are somehow applicable to the world as a whole. It's so small minded. The reality is that there are large swaths of the population that face a multitude of obstacles and issues that most of us cannot even begin to relate to or understand. As a society, it's important that we be sensitive to that fact.
The argument over voting ID is simply going in circles and is distracting from the real issue which is the many efforts that are put into voter suppression. Regardless of anyone's lot in life (rich, poor, dumb, smart, black, white etc) we ALL have a constitutional right to vote. Period. As such, our elected officials should be doing all that they can to expand voting rights and accessibility for EVERYONE. Being hung up on voter ID as if it's some "game changer" in an election is very short sighted and plays into the unfounded claims of rampant voter fraud.
Right now....everyone can vote. It’s whether or not they choose to make it work or be lazy. No one is denied the right, it’s just not convenient for them.
Wrong. We all have the right to vote but we most definitely don't all have the same level of accessibility and ease in voting. Your comment is so ignorant to the very real issue of voter suppression. Have you ever waited on line for HOURS to vote only to be shut out at the polls? Have you ever had trouble locating your own polling place? Have you ever dealt with a lack of polling places? These are just a few of the issues in counties across the nation. It has nothing to do with one's personal inconvenience, it's that voting is intentionally made more difficult for certain populations of people.
This statement makes you sound like a self entitled Karen. I'm actually embarrassed for you.
So funny you bring this up. Actually this year I sat in line for two hours in the rain on an early voting day.
My husband, who is insisted on voting on Election Day, had his polling place switched. Now, it’s his own fault for not looking it up. But turns out my entire area was moved 20 minutes away while there were two other closer locations. Guess what....he wanted to vote so he complained to me and got over it.
It’s life, things won’t go as planned. But if you want to do something than you do it. If you want to make excuses go ahead.
You really need to educate yourself before you speak. I don't get the sense that you really understand what voter suppression even is or how impactful it is in any given election cycle. You come across as very misinformed.
What is voter suppression.
Lol!!! You lost me at misogyny and white supremacy.
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