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RomeyT
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Georgia voting law
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
It's extremely disheartening in this country to see the amount of effort that is put into keeping people from voting as opposed to encouraging it. As much as we like to tout ourselves as the "greatest nation" the reality is that we are abysmally backwards in SO many ways. Shame on GA.
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JME78
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Georgia voting law
It is really sad that the Republican party thinks owning a gun should be easier than voting.
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LittleDiva
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Georgia voting law
We have it worse than they do here in NY. I just don’t understand the uproar.
It’s like they are trying to send a message to other states that might be considering tightening up not to do so because they will come after you next.
I agree you shouldn’t get an absentee ballot without a reason. There is still plenty of time to vote.
But I also agree that photo id isn’t racist. With all the money we send to other countries we can’t make it accessible for every American to get a photo id? But we can have vaccine id. Give me a break.
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LittleDiva
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Georgia voting law
And to add, wait till the next election.
If Republicans win....they made it hard for others to vote.
If Democrats win....they cheated.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
We have it worse than they do here in NY. I just don’t understand the uproar.
It’s like they are trying to send a message to other states that might be considering tightening up not to do so because they will come after you next.
I agree you shouldn’t get an absentee ballot without a reason. There is still plenty of time to vote.
But I also agree that photo id isn’t racist. With all the money we send to other countries we can’t make it accessible for every American to get a photo id? But we can have vaccine id. Give me a break.
What about voting is worse in NY? 
ETA - It's also a known fact that there are many voting laws in place which make it harder for certain populations to vote. It's very sad that our country works so hard to prevent so many from exercising their right to vote.
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Diane
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
We have it worse than they do here in NY. I just don’t understand the uproar.
It’s like they are trying to send a message to other states that might be considering tightening up not to do so because they will come after you next.
I agree you shouldn’t get an absentee ballot without a reason. There is still plenty of time to vote.
But I also agree that photo id isn’t racist. With all the money we send to other countries we can’t make it accessible for every American to get a photo id? But we can have vaccine id. Give me a break.
Totally agree, why is just showing a valid ID now racist? If you cant afford one, then one should be provided for you. Simple as that.
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| Posted 4/4/21 2:07 PM |
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Posted by LittleDiva
We have it worse than they do here in NY. I just don’t understand the uproar.
It’s like they are trying to send a message to other states that might be considering tightening up not to do so because they will come after you next.
I agree you shouldn’t get an absentee ballot without a reason. There is still plenty of time to vote.
But I also agree that photo id isn’t racist. With all the money we send to other countries we can’t make it accessible for every American to get a photo id? But we can have vaccine id. Give me a break.
Agree with all. Voting should have ID in every state.
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CookiePuss
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
We have it worse than they do here in NY. I just don’t understand the uproar.
It’s like they are trying to send a message to other states that might be considering tightening up not to do so because they will come after you next.
I agree you shouldn’t get an absentee ballot without a reason. There is still plenty of time to vote.
But I also agree that photo id isn’t racist. With all the money we send to other countries we can’t make it accessible for every American to get a photo id? But we can have vaccine id. Give me a break.
Agree with all. Voting should have ID in every state.
The states are never going to give up their rights to control their own elections.
The problem with voter ID is that it IS NOT available to all. There is no form of universally, acceptable, free and readily available form of ID. Even if ID is free, the process of getting that ID is usually not. In lieu of that, you have voter suppression.
Voting is a right. YOu can't compare a right to the vaccine ID.
So step back and trace the reasonings why GA is changing voter laws? There was noting in this last election that can be considered fraud or illegal voting. There was no reason to change the voting laws. If Republicans had won the Senate and the state's electoral college votes went to Trump - Do you think the GA legislature would have passed these new voter laws? My educated guess is no. That speaks volumes.
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NervousNell
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Re: Georgia voting law
Serious question in regards to ID.
Putting voting aside for a moment...
I haven't gotten the vaccine- those who have- did you have to show ID?
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
We have it worse than they do here in NY. I just don’t understand the uproar.
It’s like they are trying to send a message to other states that might be considering tightening up not to do so because they will come after you next.
I agree you shouldn’t get an absentee ballot without a reason. There is still plenty of time to vote.
But I also agree that photo id isn’t racist. With all the money we send to other countries we can’t make it accessible for every American to get a photo id? But we can have vaccine id. Give me a break.
Agree with all. Voting should have ID in every state.
The states are never going to give up their rights to control their own elections.
The problem with voter ID is that it IS NOT available to all. There is no form of universally, acceptable, free and readily available form of ID. Even if ID is free, the process of getting that ID is usually not. In lieu of that, you have voter suppression.
Voting is a right. YOu can't compare a right to the vaccine ID.
So step back and trace the reasonings why GA is changing voter laws? There was noting in this last election that can be considered fraud or illegal voting. There was no reason to change the voting laws. If Republicans had won the Senate and the state's electoral college votes went to Trump - Do you think the GA legislature would have passed these new voter laws? My educated guess is no. That speaks volumes.
The pandemic brought out a lot of flaws that should be fixed.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
We have it worse than they do here in NY. I just don’t understand the uproar.
It’s like they are trying to send a message to other states that might be considering tightening up not to do so because they will come after you next.
I agree you shouldn’t get an absentee ballot without a reason. There is still plenty of time to vote.
But I also agree that photo id isn’t racist. With all the money we send to other countries we can’t make it accessible for every American to get a photo id? But we can have vaccine id. Give me a break.
Agree with all. Voting should have ID in every state.
The states are never going to give up their rights to control their own elections.
The problem with voter ID is that it IS NOT available to all. There is no form of universally, acceptable, free and readily available form of ID. Even if ID is free, the process of getting that ID is usually not. In lieu of that, you have voter suppression.
Voting is a right. YOu can't compare a right to the vaccine ID.
So step back and trace the reasonings why GA is changing voter laws? There was noting in this last election that can be considered fraud or illegal voting. There was no reason to change the voting laws. If Republicans had won the Senate and the state's electoral college votes went to Trump - Do you think the GA legislature would have passed these new voter laws? My educated guess is no. That speaks volumes.
Stop sending billions to other countries and fix it here. Did you know that in India they use so much more advance technology as forms of ID? Google it....it will amaze you the things that are available if we invested money into our own country!!
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Posted by NervousNell
Serious question in regards to ID.
Putting voting aside for a moment...
I haven't gotten the vaccine- those who have- did you have to show ID?
Heck I have to show my ID to pick up my packages at Kohl’s.
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CookiePuss
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
We have it worse than they do here in NY. I just don’t understand the uproar.
It’s like they are trying to send a message to other states that might be considering tightening up not to do so because they will come after you next.
I agree you shouldn’t get an absentee ballot without a reason. There is still plenty of time to vote.
But I also agree that photo id isn’t racist. With all the money we send to other countries we can’t make it accessible for every American to get a photo id? But we can have vaccine id. Give me a break.
Agree with all. Voting should have ID in every state.
The states are never going to give up their rights to control their own elections.
The problem with voter ID is that it IS NOT available to all. There is no form of universally, acceptable, free and readily available form of ID. Even if ID is free, the process of getting that ID is usually not. In lieu of that, you have voter suppression.
Voting is a right. YOu can't compare a right to the vaccine ID.
So step back and trace the reasonings why GA is changing voter laws? There was noting in this last election that can be considered fraud or illegal voting. There was no reason to change the voting laws. If Republicans had won the Senate and the state's electoral college votes went to Trump - Do you think the GA legislature would have passed these new voter laws? My educated guess is no. That speaks volumes.
The pandemic brought out a lot of flaws that should be fixed.
What flaws, specifically?
GA was probably one of the most scrutinized states. In addition, they had a run off election and hand counting and audits.
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CookiePuss
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
We have it worse than they do here in NY. I just don’t understand the uproar.
It’s like they are trying to send a message to other states that might be considering tightening up not to do so because they will come after you next.
I agree you shouldn’t get an absentee ballot without a reason. There is still plenty of time to vote.
But I also agree that photo id isn’t racist. With all the money we send to other countries we can’t make it accessible for every American to get a photo id? But we can have vaccine id. Give me a break.
Agree with all. Voting should have ID in every state.
The states are never going to give up their rights to control their own elections.
The problem with voter ID is that it IS NOT available to all. There is no form of universally, acceptable, free and readily available form of ID. Even if ID is free, the process of getting that ID is usually not. In lieu of that, you have voter suppression.
Voting is a right. YOu can't compare a right to the vaccine ID.
So step back and trace the reasonings why GA is changing voter laws? There was noting in this last election that can be considered fraud or illegal voting. There was no reason to change the voting laws. If Republicans had won the Senate and the state's electoral college votes went to Trump - Do you think the GA legislature would have passed these new voter laws? My educated guess is no. That speaks volumes.
Stop sending billions to other countries and fix it here. Did you know that in India they use so much more advance technology as forms of ID? Google it....it will amaze you the things that are available if we invested money into our own country!!
Accept that the laws in GA are not designed to improve voting or to make it more secure.
The new laws are specific in their intention.
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I don’t understand why it is not ok to have id to vote but the idea of a vaccine passport is ok. Like you can’t verify that you are who you say you are but it’s ok to have proof that you are fully vaccinated for a virus? I am also not vaccinated but I know many people who are and they had to show id to get it.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by Anotherplease
I don’t understand why it is not ok to have id to vote but the idea of a vaccine passport is ok. Like you can’t verify that you are who you say you are but it’s ok to have proof that you are fully vaccinated for a virus? I am also not vaccinated but I know many people who are and they had to show id to get it.
Makes no sense.
There are so many things in NY that require ID....are these racist too???
Doctors appointments
Return an item to target
Buy alcohol
Enter a casino
Applying for a job
Buy cigarettes
Buy or lease a car
Pick up a child from school
Cash a check
I don’t know, many minorities manage to do these things?
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LittleDiva
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
We have it worse than they do here in NY. I just don’t understand the uproar.
It’s like they are trying to send a message to other states that might be considering tightening up not to do so because they will come after you next.
I agree you shouldn’t get an absentee ballot without a reason. There is still plenty of time to vote.
But I also agree that photo id isn’t racist. With all the money we send to other countries we can’t make it accessible for every American to get a photo id? But we can have vaccine id. Give me a break.
Agree with all. Voting should have ID in every state.
The states are never going to give up their rights to control their own elections.
The problem with voter ID is that it IS NOT available to all. There is no form of universally, acceptable, free and readily available form of ID. Even if ID is free, the process of getting that ID is usually not. In lieu of that, you have voter suppression.
Voting is a right. YOu can't compare a right to the vaccine ID.
So step back and trace the reasonings why GA is changing voter laws? There was noting in this last election that can be considered fraud or illegal voting. There was no reason to change the voting laws. If Republicans had won the Senate and the state's electoral college votes went to Trump - Do you think the GA legislature would have passed these new voter laws? My educated guess is no. That speaks volumes.
Stop sending billions to other countries and fix it here. Did you know that in India they use so much more advance technology as forms of ID? Google it....it will amaze you the things that are available if we invested money into our own country!!
Accept that the laws in GA are not designed to improve voting or to make it more secure.
The new laws are specific in their intention.
You don’t really need to request an absentee ballot 6 months out. Maybe we should invest in our postal system if we don’t trust it.
Why would you send ballots to every single registered voter? It makes sense to send only to those who request it.
We don’t need weeks of early voting, I think Monday to Friday is fair. If they were giving you your stimulus check between Monday to Friday I’m sure you would find a way to make it work.
How is showing ID for absentee ballots a bad thing?
I think so many people are up in arms and didn’t really read what it’s doing.
The only thing that I could see changing is the drop boxes, don’t understand the logic behind limiting them.
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Anotherplease
I don’t understand why it is not ok to have id to vote but the idea of a vaccine passport is ok. Like you can’t verify that you are who you say you are but it’s ok to have proof that you are fully vaccinated for a virus? I am also not vaccinated but I know many people who are and they had to show id to get it.
Makes no sense.
There are so many things in NY that require ID....are these racist too???
Doctors appointments
Return an item to target
Buy alcohol
Enter a casino
Applying for a job
Buy cigarettes
Buy or lease a car
Pick up a child from school
Cash a check
I don’t know, many minorities manage to do these things?
Voting - protected by the US Constitution
Doctor - some walk-in clinics don't require ID, especially if paid in cash
Target - company policy
Buy alcohol - I haven't needed to show ID in LONG time...
Applying for a job - some jobs don't require ID
Buy a car - I can easily go in my neighborhood and buy a car in cash today without any ID.
Cash a check - there are ways to cash a check without ID.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by LittleDiva
We have it worse than they do here in NY. I just don’t understand the uproar.
It’s like they are trying to send a message to other states that might be considering tightening up not to do so because they will come after you next.
I agree you shouldn’t get an absentee ballot without a reason. There is still plenty of time to vote.
But I also agree that photo id isn’t racist. With all the money we send to other countries we can’t make it accessible for every American to get a photo id? But we can have vaccine id. Give me a break.
Agree with all. Voting should have ID in every state.
The states are never going to give up their rights to control their own elections.
The problem with voter ID is that it IS NOT available to all. There is no form of universally, acceptable, free and readily available form of ID. Even if ID is free, the process of getting that ID is usually not. In lieu of that, you have voter suppression.
Voting is a right. YOu can't compare a right to the vaccine ID.
So step back and trace the reasonings why GA is changing voter laws? There was noting in this last election that can be considered fraud or illegal voting. There was no reason to change the voting laws. If Republicans had won the Senate and the state's electoral college votes went to Trump - Do you think the GA legislature would have passed these new voter laws? My educated guess is no. That speaks volumes.
Stop sending billions to other countries and fix it here. Did you know that in India they use so much more advance technology as forms of ID? Google it....it will amaze you the things that are available if we invested money into our own country!!
Accept that the laws in GA are not designed to improve voting or to make it more secure.
The new laws are specific in their intention.
You don’t really need to request an absentee ballot 6 months out. Maybe we should invest in our postal system if we don’t trust it.
Why would you send ballots to every single registered voter? It makes sense to send only to those who request it.
We don’t need weeks of early voting, I think Monday to Friday is fair. If they were giving you your stimulus check between Monday to Friday I’m sure you would find a way to make it work.
How is showing ID for absentee ballots a bad thing?
I think so many people are up in arms and didn’t really read what it’s doing.
The only thing that I could see changing is the drop boxes, don’t understand the logic behind limiting them.
But ultimately, how is it a bad thing to give people various options for voting along with making it easier to vote?
Our country intentionally keeps people down. If we actually wanted to give people a voice, we'd make voting EASIER, not more DIFFICULT.
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Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Anotherplease
I don’t understand why it is not ok to have id to vote but the idea of a vaccine passport is ok. Like you can’t verify that you are who you say you are but it’s ok to have proof that you are fully vaccinated for a virus? I am also not vaccinated but I know many people who are and they had to show id to get it.
Makes no sense.
There are so many things in NY that require ID....are these racist too???
Doctors appointments
Return an item to target
Buy alcohol
Enter a casino
Applying for a job
Buy cigarettes
Buy or lease a car
Pick up a child from school
Cash a check
I don’t know, many minorities manage to do these things?
Voting - protected by the US Constitution
Doctor - some walk-in clinics don't require ID, especially if paid in cash
Target - company policy
Buy alcohol - I haven't needed to show ID in LONG time...
Applying for a job - some jobs don't require ID
Buy a car - I can easily go in my neighborhood and buy a car in cash today without any ID.
Cash a check - there are ways to cash a check without ID.
You can’t pick up a child at school without ID.
Company policy with stores but that is every store. So how does that work, they never pick up or return items to stores?
Many places ask you for ID to buy alcohol under the age of 40. Walmart is one.
ID needed at the bank.
So many things require ID now.
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Posted by Anotherplease
I don’t understand why it is not ok to have id to vote but the idea of a vaccine passport is ok. Like you can’t verify that you are who you say you are but it’s ok to have proof that you are fully vaccinated for a virus? I am also not vaccinated but I know many people who are and they had to show id to get it.
It’s an issue that people insist on not believing there is one.
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CookiePuss
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Anotherplease
I don’t understand why it is not ok to have id to vote but the idea of a vaccine passport is ok. Like you can’t verify that you are who you say you are but it’s ok to have proof that you are fully vaccinated for a virus? I am also not vaccinated but I know many people who are and they had to show id to get it.
Makes no sense.
There are so many things in NY that require ID....are these racist too???
Doctors appointments
Return an item to target
Buy alcohol
Enter a casino
Applying for a job
Buy cigarettes
Buy or lease a car
Pick up a child from school
Cash a check
I don’t know, many minorities manage to do these things?
Voting - protected by the US Constitution
Doctor - some walk-in clinics don't require ID, especially if paid in cash
Target - company policy
Buy alcohol - I haven't needed to show ID in LONG time...
Applying for a job - some jobs don't require ID
Buy a car - I can easily go in my neighborhood and buy a car in cash today without any ID.
Cash a check - there are ways to cash a check without ID.
You can’t pick up a child at school without ID.
Company policy with stores but that is every store. So how does that work, they never pick up or return items to stores?
Many places ask you for ID to buy alcohol under the age of 40. Walmart is one.
ID needed at the bank.
So many things require ID now.
Which one of those things is a US constitutionally protected right?
You can't equate voting to any of the above.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Anotherplease
I don’t understand why it is not ok to have id to vote but the idea of a vaccine passport is ok. Like you can’t verify that you are who you say you are but it’s ok to have proof that you are fully vaccinated for a virus? I am also not vaccinated but I know many people who are and they had to show id to get it.
It’s an issue that people insist on not believing there is one.
People should be as outraged over voter suppression as they are over ID's. That's a far bigger issue in this country.
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CookiePuss
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Re: Georgia voting law
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Anotherplease
I don’t understand why it is not ok to have id to vote but the idea of a vaccine passport is ok. Like you can’t verify that you are who you say you are but it’s ok to have proof that you are fully vaccinated for a virus? I am also not vaccinated but I know many people who are and they had to show id to get it.
It’s an issue that people insist on not believing there is one.
The theory of it is that ID can be and is cost prohibitive and geographically hard for some US citizens to obtain; and therefore would inhibit their constitutional right to vote.
If you live on LI that may be hard to fathom but there are lots of areas of this country where going to get an Gov't ID is not all that easy.
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