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LittleDiva
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Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Biden: “There’s nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months.”
Ummmm.....I thought masks, social distancing, all these ridiculous rules and regulations were supposed to slow the spread?!?!
This crushed my spirits today. I’m seriously losing my mind at the thought of this being life. I want to cry for my kids on a daily basis. This isn’t life!!
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BFNY516
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Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
It sucks but people were warned over and over. I mean we basically proved as a country that we don’t care or believe in the severity of pandemics.
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| Posted 1/24/21 4:16 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
People STILL refuse to listen and follow guidelines so until we have the vaccine out to the majority then I agree with him, nothing will change the trajectory of this pandemic. We need faster distribution of the vaccine and WAY more people cooperating throughout this nightmare.
I feel you though, I could not be more tired of living this way and I am so sad for my kids and the childhood they are missing out on right now. This sucks. All of it. 
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queensgal
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
I mean Biden isn’t magic.
The US has had zero national policy, and put forth zero real effort to control this virus for a year. It’s now so out of control in the entire country, we are passing experts doomsday scenarios.
Not sure what you would expect. Have you followed non Fox News at all in the last 11 months?
It’s going to take a lot of time and for people to change their ways to make any kind of real progress. And that won’t bring back the 400k who have died. This virus has been an epic disaster for our country and failure of our govt - at this point, even if we magically stopped it today, that statement would be true.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by queensgal
I mean Biden isn’t magic.
The US has had zero national policy, and put forth zero real effort to control this virus for a year. It’s now so out of control in the entire country, we are passing experts doomsday scenarios.
Not sure what you would expect. Have you followed non Fox News at all in the last 11 months?
It’s going to take a lot of time and for people to change their ways to make any kind of real progress. And that won’t bring back the 400k who have died. This virus has been an epic disaster for our country and failure of our govt - at this point, even if we magically stopped it today, that statement would be true.
Yes, I do follow non Fox News, do we really need to take it there every time.
I remember Biden saying give him 100 days of mask mandate blah blah blah. Now we are doom and gloom. It’s not what I was expecting to hear. I’m so done with all this.
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
All those actions slow the spread but where never and will never be a cure.
It's like trying to get toothpaste back into the tube...some actions or inactions can't be undone.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by queensgal
I mean Biden isn’t magic.
The US has had zero national policy, and put forth zero real effort to control this virus for a year. It’s now so out of control in the entire country, we are passing experts doomsday scenarios.
Not sure what you would expect. Have you followed non Fox News at all in the last 11 months?
It’s going to take a lot of time and for people to change their ways to make any kind of real progress. And that won’t bring back the 400k who have died. This virus has been an epic disaster for our country and failure of our govt - at this point, even if we magically stopped it today, that statement would be true.
Yes, I do follow non Fox News, do we really need to take it there every time.
I remember Biden saying give him 100 days of mask mandate blah blah blah. Now we are doom and gloom. It’s not what I was expecting to hear. I’m so done with all this.
I think he will do everything he can to try and right this ship but that will take time AND there is almost half the country that will fight him tooth and nail when it comes to anything COVID related.
You can't forget, Trump got millions of people to believe this was a hoax, that masks and social distancing weren't necessary and that it will all magically disappear. Changing those people's minds and getting them to cooperate won't happen overnight, if at all.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Here is Biden's COVID plan:
BIDEN'S COVID PLAN
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| Posted 1/24/21 4:48 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
I read his plan.
I’m just disappointed by the doom and gloom outlook he is taking.
I’d rather see more positivity. There is no way these anti-maskers are going to listen when he comes out and says there is no way to change the forecast.
I wish he would have put a spin on it saying my mask mandate, testing, etc....will hopefully change the projections. Not throwing your hands in the air your first week saying there’s nothing that can change the projections.
When he took office I was hopeful that after the 100 days things would be better. Now I find myself back in a bad place. I look at my kids suffering and my heart is breaking for them. I thought we were turning a corner.
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klingklang77
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Wait that is the Keystone Pipeline? What am I missing?
Biden isn’t a miracle worker to make the disease go away. But I do hope he does more protective measures and vaccines, but I think getting more vaccines is going to be a problem.
It looks like the second wave is going down here. For our state we have 122 cases per 100,000 citizens. NY has 481 per 100,000. NJ is 463 per 100,000. My city is 79, but I’m on the border, and the area next to me is 110. When it gets to 50, then things open.
It took months to get down to that number. It blows my mind that it isn’t stricter there.
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| Posted 1/24/21 5:02 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by klingklang77
Wait that is the Keystone Pipeline? What am I missing?
Biden isn’t a miracle worker to make the disease go away. But I do hope he does more protective measures and vaccines, but I think getting more vaccines is going to be a problem.
It looks like the second wave is going down here. For our state we have 122 cases per 100,000 citizens. NY has 481 per 100,000. NJ is 463 per 100,000. My city is 79, but I’m on the border, and the area next to me is 110. When it gets to 50, then things open.
It took months to get down to that number. It blows my mind that it isn’t stricter there.
The vaccine distribution needs to change ASAP.
The point of the vaccine is take the burden off hospitals. So those more likely to be hospitalized NEED to get vaccinated, not the 30 year old teacher with no underlying conditions.
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| Posted 1/24/21 5:04 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by klingklang77
Wait that is the Keystone Pipeline? What am I missing?
Biden isn’t a miracle worker to make the disease go away. But I do hope he does more protective measures and vaccines, but I think getting more vaccines is going to be a problem.
It looks like the second wave is going down here. For our state we have 122 cases per 100,000 citizens. NY has 481 per 100,000. NJ is 463 per 100,000. My city is 79, but I’m on the border, and the area next to me is 110. When it gets to 50, then things open.
It took months to get down to that number. It blows my mind that it isn’t stricter there.
The vaccine distribution needs to change ASAP.
The point of the vaccine is take the burden off hospitals. So those more likely to be hospitalized NEED to get vaccinated, not the 30 year old teacher with no underlying conditions.
The vaccine also prevents people from catching it in the first place, and from spreading it, so teachers absolutely need it, too.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by klingklang77
Wait that is the Keystone Pipeline? What am I missing?
Biden isn’t a miracle worker to make the disease go away. But I do hope he does more protective measures and vaccines, but I think getting more vaccines is going to be a problem.
It looks like the second wave is going down here. For our state we have 122 cases per 100,000 citizens. NY has 481 per 100,000. NJ is 463 per 100,000. My city is 79, but I’m on the border, and the area next to me is 110. When it gets to 50, then things open.
It took months to get down to that number. It blows my mind that it isn’t stricter there.
The vaccine distribution needs to change ASAP.
The point of the vaccine is take the burden off hospitals. So those more likely to be hospitalized NEED to get vaccinated, not the 30 year old teacher with no underlying conditions.
The vaccine also prevents people from catching it in the first place, and from spreading it, so teachers absolutely need it, too.
So I was under the impression that you can still catch it, it just lessens your symptoms. And they still don’t know if you are a carrier, but evidence shows you can still spread it. Has this changed recently?
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GoldenRod
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by klingklang77
Wait that is the Keystone Pipeline? What am I missing?
Biden isn’t a miracle worker to make the disease go away. But I do hope he does more protective measures and vaccines, but I think getting more vaccines is going to be a problem.
It looks like the second wave is going down here. For our state we have 122 cases per 100,000 citizens. NY has 481 per 100,000. NJ is 463 per 100,000. My city is 79, but I’m on the border, and the area next to me is 110. When it gets to 50, then things open.
It took months to get down to that number. It blows my mind that it isn’t stricter there.
The vaccine distribution needs to change ASAP.
The point of the vaccine is take the burden off hospitals. So those more likely to be hospitalized NEED to get vaccinated, not the 30 year old teacher with no underlying conditions.
The vaccine also prevents people from catching it in the first place, and from spreading it, so teachers absolutely need it, too.
So I was under the impression that you can still catch it, it just lessens your symptoms. And they still don’t know if you are a carrier, but evidence shows you can still spread it. Has this changed recently?
Not that long ago in here, I posted articles from Pfizer, from Moderna, the CDC, and the FDA that all said that the vaccine prevents people from catching Covid-19.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by klingklang77
Wait that is the Keystone Pipeline? What am I missing?
Biden isn’t a miracle worker to make the disease go away. But I do hope he does more protective measures and vaccines, but I think getting more vaccines is going to be a problem.
It looks like the second wave is going down here. For our state we have 122 cases per 100,000 citizens. NY has 481 per 100,000. NJ is 463 per 100,000. My city is 79, but I’m on the border, and the area next to me is 110. When it gets to 50, then things open.
It took months to get down to that number. It blows my mind that it isn’t stricter there.
The vaccine distribution needs to change ASAP.
The point of the vaccine is take the burden off hospitals. So those more likely to be hospitalized NEED to get vaccinated, not the 30 year old teacher with no underlying conditions.
The vaccine also prevents people from catching it in the first place, and from spreading it, so teachers absolutely need it, too.
So I was under the impression that you can still catch it, it just lessens your symptoms. And they still don’t know if you are a carrier, but evidence shows you can still spread it. Has this changed recently?
Not that long ago in here, I posted articles from Pfizer, from Moderna, the CDC, and the FDA that all said that the vaccine prevents people from catching Covid-19.
I just googled. Now has there been any changes as to whether or not you can still be a carrier?? I am eligible to get it but passed because I’d rather someone who needs it get it if I’m able to still be a carrier. I’d 100% sign up ASAP if I’m not a carrier with the vaccine!!
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Hofstra26
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by LittleDiva
I read his plan.
I’m just disappointed by the doom and gloom outlook he is taking.
I’d rather see more positivity. There is no way these anti-maskers are going to listen when he comes out and says there is no way to change the forecast.
I wish he would have put a spin on it saying my mask mandate, testing, etc....will hopefully change the projections. Not throwing your hands in the air your first week saying there’s nothing that can change the projections.
When he took office I was hopeful that after the 100 days things would be better. Now I find myself back in a bad place. I look at my kids suffering and my heart is breaking for them. I thought we were turning a corner.
We're a year into this with over 400K dead and the virus spreading like crazy still. I think he's less doom and gloom and more realistic about the hurdles we're facing.
At this point, the vaccine is the key to fixing all of this.
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by LittleDiva
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Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by klingklang77
Wait that is the Keystone Pipeline? What am I missing?
Biden isn’t a miracle worker to make the disease go away. But I do hope he does more protective measures and vaccines, but I think getting more vaccines is going to be a problem.
It looks like the second wave is going down here. For our state we have 122 cases per 100,000 citizens. NY has 481 per 100,000. NJ is 463 per 100,000. My city is 79, but I’m on the border, and the area next to me is 110. When it gets to 50, then things open.
It took months to get down to that number. It blows my mind that it isn’t stricter there.
The vaccine distribution needs to change ASAP.
The point of the vaccine is take the burden off hospitals. So those more likely to be hospitalized NEED to get vaccinated, not the 30 year old teacher with no underlying conditions.
The vaccine also prevents people from catching it in the first place, and from spreading it, so teachers absolutely need it, too.
So I was under the impression that you can still catch it, it just lessens your symptoms. And they still don’t know if you are a carrier, but evidence shows you can still spread it. Has this changed recently?
Not that long ago in here, I posted articles from Pfizer, from Moderna, the CDC, and the FDA that all said that the vaccine prevents people from catching Covid-19.
Yes, I have read that too. Israel is reporting a 60% decrease in new cases since vaccinations began. They are vaccinating at a much higher rate than we are, so they are seeing the benefits before we do.
As a side note, 30 year olds with no underlying conditions die from this too. They are also in close contact with large amounts of people each day, so their risk of getting COVID is high. They can then bring it home to elderly or immunocompromised family members.
First everyone hated teachers for being afraid to go to work, now people hate teachers for getting the vaccine so your children can stay in school. I give up.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by GoldenRod
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Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by klingklang77
Wait that is the Keystone Pipeline? What am I missing?
Biden isn’t a miracle worker to make the disease go away. But I do hope he does more protective measures and vaccines, but I think getting more vaccines is going to be a problem.
It looks like the second wave is going down here. For our state we have 122 cases per 100,000 citizens. NY has 481 per 100,000. NJ is 463 per 100,000. My city is 79, but I’m on the border, and the area next to me is 110. When it gets to 50, then things open.
It took months to get down to that number. It blows my mind that it isn’t stricter there.
The vaccine distribution needs to change ASAP.
The point of the vaccine is take the burden off hospitals. So those more likely to be hospitalized NEED to get vaccinated, not the 30 year old teacher with no underlying conditions.
The vaccine also prevents people from catching it in the first place, and from spreading it, so teachers absolutely need it, too.
So I was under the impression that you can still catch it, it just lessens your symptoms. And they still don’t know if you are a carrier, but evidence shows you can still spread it. Has this changed recently?
Not that long ago in here, I posted articles from Pfizer, from Moderna, the CDC, and the FDA that all said that the vaccine prevents people from catching Covid-19.
Yes, I have read that too. Israel is reporting a 60% decrease in new cases since vaccinations began. They are vaccinating at a much higher rate than we are, so they are seeing the benefits before we do.
As a side note, 30 year olds with no underlying conditions die from this too. They are also in close contact with large amounts of people each day, so their risk of getting COVID is high. They can then bring it home to elderly or immunocompromised family members.
First everyone hated teachers for being afraid to go to work, now people hate teachers for getting the vaccine so your children can stay in school. I give up.
I’m just giving a quick example.
If you infect ten 30 year olds with no underlying conditions and ten senior citizens with Covid....chances are that more seniors will be hospitalized thus my reason seniors need to be first. I’m not trying to single teachers out, it’s just majority of my friends getting the vaccine are teachers so it’s the first example I think of.
I hear about it daily, people trying to get elderly parents appointments....myself included. It needs to change.
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GoldenRod
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by LittleDiva
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I’m just giving a quick example.
If you infect ten 30 year olds with no underlying conditions and ten senior citizens with Covid....chances are that more seniors will be hospitalized thus my reason seniors need to be first. I’m not trying to single teachers out, it’s just majority of my friends getting the vaccine are teachers so it’s the first example I think of.
I hear about it daily, people trying to get elderly parents appointments....myself included. It needs to change.
But as a blanket statement, most teachers interact with more people (students, other faculty, more social activities, etc) than most elderly people. So, while the elderly are more likely to need hospitalizations, teachers are more likely to catch it and spread it.
Other than getting the vaccine to everyone immediately, there will always be people second guessing the order to vaccinate. And there will never be a clear-cut "ideal" order of vaccination.
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by BFNY516
It sucks but people were warned over and over. I mean we basically proved as a country that we don’t care or believe in the severity of pandemics.
This . If people followed The "ridiculous rules and regulations" as you say we wouldn't still be in this place. A number of other countries are back to pretty much normal. But their people don't B@tch about masks or social distancing like we do here.
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klingklang77
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by klingklang77
Wait that is the Keystone Pipeline? What am I missing?
Biden isn’t a miracle worker to make the disease go away. But I do hope he does more protective measures and vaccines, but I think getting more vaccines is going to be a problem.
It looks like the second wave is going down here. For our state we have 122 cases per 100,000 citizens. NY has 481 per 100,000. NJ is 463 per 100,000. My city is 79, but I’m on the border, and the area next to me is 110. When it gets to 50, then things open.
It took months to get down to that number. It blows my mind that it isn’t stricter there.
The vaccine distribution needs to change ASAP.
The point of the vaccine is take the burden off hospitals. So those more likely to be hospitalized NEED to get vaccinated, not the 30 year old teacher with no underlying conditions.
I understand the point of the vaccine. I’m referring to the link posted. It says nothing about the plan.
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Idk what can be done at this point. I mean we're at a year already and imo it's too far gone. We've hit 25M cases with no sign of slowing down. It didn't have to be this way. I wonder how things could've been different if it had been handled seriously from the onset - with a stringent national response followed by local and state - everyone on the same page. It needed to be nipped in the bud right away. You have to admit there isn't a whole lot of cooperation going on. I would've preferred just ripping the bandaid off all at once from the beginning than try to play catch up a year later. There is no pandemic magic wand. Of that much we have to be realistic. There is no doomand gloom at this point. There is only realism. Do you really think the people that didn't vote for him and believe he stole the election because Trump told them so are going to start wearing a mask now when they've been told by countless experts to do so but chosen to ignore guidelines? I don't think they will. People were advised not to gather for holidays or gather in small groups and follow strict guidelines. I can't tell you how many people I know who would NORMALLY not be part of a big group pre-covid suddenly felt they HAD TO gather in large groups out of spite and defiance. Then you have a lot of people saying they won't take the vaccine. I don't believe in forcing people to take it against their will. So what are the answers?
I hate everything about this, too. I hate what it's doing to kids most of all. But in the words of el butt chapo "it is what it is" at this point. I'm choosing to be realistic and not get my hopes up. If he can do anything then great, but at this point I don't expect much can be done. Just curious what you were expecting to hear? It seems like you voted for Trump (?), who didn't take it seriously for a single day, not even when he caught the virus. Were your expectations of containment as high for Trump? What do you think he would've done/been able to do even if he wanted to in the second year of this pandemic that he didn't do in its first year? Not being snarky at all. Genuinely asking.
I didn't read all responses so sorry if you already answered that.
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BFNY516
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Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
I was thinking more about this and I will add that the “doom and gloom” is just ... reality? Not trying to sound like an assh0le here, but the previous administration said it would just disappear one day. They wanted to pack out churches and open everything. They said it’s a hoax. They said it would go away once the election was over. Jared Kushner said they had a great handle on it as people were dying in crazy numbers. Somehow Jared was put in a leadership role to battle CoVid. :/
To add to that, their news company supporters (Fox) never had on the graphics/data of CoVid cases and deaths (like CNN). It was like it never existed to the previous admin or their media supporters.
So the doom and gloom may be a sudden shock to people who bought into the previous admin or certain channels. To the rest of us, it’s reality.
This goes to a general observation not the original poster.
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Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
It’s sort of like an “I told you so” you should have listened. It’s really depressing.I guess this is our life for now. My heart breaks for kids. There is a lot of anxiety and depression brewing amongst children.
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BFNY516
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Re: Biden - nothing to change the trajectory of pandemic
Posted by Anotherplease
It’s sort of like an “I told you so” you should have listened. It’s really depressing.I guess this is our life for now. My heart breaks for kids. There is a lot of anxiety and depression brewing amongst children.
I’m not denying your experience but I see so many kids hanging out all the time or doing sports.
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