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Funkybutt
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Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Has anyone read this:
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nycbuslady
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Segregation problems with pandemic pods
I hadn't read the article until you posted it. But, this is just another indication that the pandemic has not affected everyone equally. From the beginning, it was the lower-income people who either lost their jobs or didn't have the ability to work from home. Those of us who are able to work from home have not seen a decrease in income.
It's like two kids on a see-saw and the rich just keep getting fatter and the poor are sitting on the see-saw and just can't move it down!
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by nycbuslady
I hadn't read the article until you posted it. But, this is just another indication that the pandemic has not affected everyone equally. From the beginning, it was the lower-income people who either lost their jobs or didn't have the ability to work from home. Those of us who are able to work from home have not seen a decrease in income.
It's like two kids on a see-saw and the rich just keep getting fatter and the poor are sitting on the see-saw and just can't move it down!
Exactly, I’ve been saying this all along.
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mrsrainbow
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Segregation problems with pandemic pods
The economically advantaged will find a way to educate. Everyone else be damned.
Capitalism is the root of all evil, kids.
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| Posted 7/24/20 11:08 AM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by nycbuslady
It's like two kids on a see-saw and the rich just keep getting fatter and the poor are sitting on the see-saw and just can't move it down!
I disagree. I know some very wealthy people who are not doing well at all. Their business can’t open or sales are non existent. They are selling things off trying to make ends meet. On the other hand I know people whose businesses are thriving and never skipped a beat.
But there are people on the other end who continued to work and their income never changed, or those that made more on unemployment.
The problem is many people don’t plan for emergencies. We live within our means and don’t buy new “Things” just because. Think about when we were younger, our parents didn’t have 2-3 new cars, we wore hand me downs and got used toys, we didn’t do take out, we never bought coffee....let alone at $5 a day. We don’t live simple like this anymore. We just spend and spend with no safety net. I hope this is a lesson for everyone to start saving.
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Segregation problems with pandemic pods
I’ve heard of many friends/colleagues of my husbands who are organizing these. Quite honestly, if I didn’t have a texting license, I would be doing the same thing for my kids.
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beachgirl
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
I had not read the article but it's been happening since June in my community. Before camps opened the wealthy have created summer "camps"in their back yards and hired summer tutors, music teachers, art teachers, gymnastic teachers, yoga teachers, etc etc and they get a select group of kids together for a few hours each morning - ages ranging from 15 months upwards.
They have also been advertising for other "like minded" parents to form school pods for the coming year. Alternating their own homes as the "school" and hiring teachers, gym teachers, art and music teachers to add to their home curriculum.
I get it...people need to work and if they have the means to hire people to teach their kids from the comfort and safety of their homes them good for them. But the flip side is their housekeeper / landscaper's kids will be left at home for 10 hours at the mercy of distance learning with an older sibling supervising if they are lucky.
So when the 2020-21 school year ends who is going to be coming out on top?
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by nycbuslady
I hadn't read the article until you posted it. But, this is just another indication that the pandemic has not affected everyone equally. From the beginning, it was the lower-income people who either lost their jobs or didn't have the ability to work from home. Those of us who are able to work from home have not seen a decrease in income.
It's like two kids on a see-saw and the rich just keep getting fatter and the poor are sitting on the see-saw and just can't move it down!
This. These are the same kind of ppl (not all thankfully) that still fails to even empathize with those that have been seriously struggling for months and that lost their job, lost their business, are getting inundated with debt, whose kids are struggling mentally and emotionally, etc, etc but prefer adopting an extreme fear for this virus and are still in favor of shut down measures for everyone.
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nycbuslady
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by beachgirl
I get it...people need to work and if they have the means to hire people to teach their kids from the comfort and safety of their homes them good for them. But the flip side is their housekeeper / landscaper's kids will be left at home for 10 hours at the mercy of distance learning with an older sibling supervising if they are lucky.
So when the 2020-21 school year ends who is going to be coming out on top?
I agree! You can't fault people for doing what they can to provide learning opportunities for their children. But, in the end, the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" increases substantially! I've been saying that since March.
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Naturalmama
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Segregation problems with pandemic pods
No matter how you slice it, if school buildings do not reopen in September, the children who will suffer are the poor & minority children. Their parents don't have the means to hire fancy tutors, the ability to work from home or quit their jobs, who had nothing before the pandemic, and now have less than nothing.
Today, Cuomo just reported INCREDIBLE numbers. Hospitalizations dropped by over 50 overnight, and dropped below 700 for the first time since March 16th. As long as that stays, open the schools. Every parent has every right to do what they feel is best for their child. If you can afford to keep your child home and supplement distance learning, that is wonderful and your child's school should give you that option. If I were a SAHM, I may choose that option myself.
But every child deserves a chance to succeed. And not every child will succeed with distance learning. When we say BLM- that includes black children. I fear they will never come back from this learning loss.
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by Naturalmama
No matter how you slice it, if school buildings do not reopen in September, the children who will suffer are the poor & minority children. Their parents don't have the means to hire fancy tutors, the ability to work from home or quit their jobs, who had nothing before the pandemic, and now have less than nothing.
Here’s a question. Why do minority children automatically get lumped into the poor category?
It’s not the poor and minority children who would suffer from this ... it’s the poor. Period. That’s it. Not all minority people are poor without means to do more for their families.
If this had happened when I was a child, I would be disadvantaged immediately because I was poor. White - but dirt poor.
While a lot of the POC who I grew up with had it way better (financially) than I did.
I’m sorry. I’m not calling the poster out. I just quoted this because I see this a lot and it always bothers me when people are automatically thought to be poor because of the color of their skin. That’s not always the case. That alone is judgmental.
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Sash
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
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Posted by Naturalmama
No matter how you slice it, if school buildings do not reopen in September, the children who will suffer are the poor & minority children. Their parents don't have the means to hire fancy tutors, the ability to work from home or quit their jobs, who had nothing before the pandemic, and now have less than nothing.
Here’s a question. Why do minority children automatically get lumped into the poor category?
It’s not the poor and minority children who would suffer from this ... it’s the poor. Period. That’s it. Not all minority people are poor without means to do more for their families.
If this had happened when I was a child, I would be disadvantaged immediately because I was poor. White - but dirt poor.
While a lot of the POC who I grew up with had it way better (financially) than I did.
I’m sorry. I’m not calling the poster out. I just quoted this because I see this a lot and it always bothers me when people are automatically thought to be poor because of the color of their skin. That’s not always the case. That alone is judgmental.
Because when you look at the statistic minorities are the ones who make up the biggest part of the people who are poor. There’s no denying it. Obviously there are poor White people. Look at cities like Baltimore. But minorities make up the biggest part of this statistic, we are the ones who suffer the most. In a system that’s already stacked against us. That is the whole premise for the BLM movement.
Yes, you are right not every minority is poor. I am Hispanic, who grew up in horrible conditions. But I am not poor and I did not suffer financially, during this pandemic. But that isn’t the majority compared to White people.
Eta: I’m not saying there aren’t White people who are suffering and being impacted. But what we are saying, is this is another example of how minorities are getting pushed further back. The playing field can never get leveled between minorities and whites when decisions like this are made.
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nycbuslady
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Here’s a question. Why do minority children automatically get lumped into the poor category?
It’s not the poor and minority children who would suffer from this ... it’s the poor. Period. That’s it. Not all minority people are poor without means to do more for their families.
I agree! I feel like assuming a minority person is poor, is kinda racist in itself.
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Naturalmama
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by nycbuslady
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Here’s a question. Why do minority children automatically get lumped into the poor category?
It’s not the poor and minority children who would suffer from this ... it’s the poor. Period. That’s it. Not all minority people are poor without means to do more for their families.
I agree! I feel like assuming a minority person is poor, is kinda racist in itself.
I am not racist.. All I am saying is that STATISTICALLY, a majority of low income new yorkers are minorities. Cuomo- you know, the NY superhero, has said many times that the poor & minority population are the ones most heavily affected by COVID. Yes, poor white children will also suffer. But they do not make up the majority. It isn't racist- it's another disgusting example of how blacks are not given the same opportunities to succeed in life- hence BLM.
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Sash
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by nycbuslady
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Here’s a question. Why do minority children automatically get lumped into the poor category?
It’s not the poor and minority children who would suffer from this ... it’s the poor. Period. That’s it. Not all minority people are poor without means to do more for their families.
I agree! I feel like assuming a minority person is poor, is kinda racist in itself.
Meeting a minority and assuming they are poor, is racists.
Realizing that minorities make up a huge part of the population living in poverty and knowing it's a problem - is being aware. Denying it, is pure ignorance.
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KarenK122
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Segregation problems with pandemic pods
There are plenty of people by me who are doing this. They are already planning for the fall and getting their groups together. There is definitely going to be a major gap between wealthier and poorer communities, not only for things like this but the school district itself. Wealthier communities have the means to put in place many of the safety protocols and have schools big enough to house their students. Poorer districts may not and will not be able to receive an equitable education. And just to add, many minorities in my area are the wealthiest of them all.
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Naturalmama
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by KarenK122
And just to add, many minorities in my area are the wealthiest of them all.
A majority of minorities are not poor, a majority of the poor are minorities. That is what I meant. And it is not their fault- it is society's fault. The whole meaning behind white privilege is that whites are given more opportunities in life to succeed. So schooling in the age of COVID is going to further fuel that. Like I said, the hardest hit communities with COVID were poor communities- and a majority of New Yorkers who died were black & hispanic. That is a very real racial inequality problem.
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mrsrainbow
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by Naturalmama
No matter how you slice it, if school buildings do not reopen in September, the children who will suffer are the poor & minority children. Their parents don't have the means to hire fancy tutors, the ability to work from home or quit their jobs, who had nothing before the pandemic, and now have less than nothing.
Here’s a question. Why do minority children automatically get lumped into the poor category?
It’s not the poor and minority children who would suffer from this ... it’s the poor. Period. That’s it. Not all minority people are poor without means to do more for their families.
If this had happened when I was a child, I would be disadvantaged immediately because I was poor. White - but dirt poor.
While a lot of the POC who I grew up with had it way better (financially) than I did.
I’m sorry. I’m not calling the poster out. I just quoted this because I see this a lot and it always bothers me when people are automatically thought to be poor because of the color of their skin. That’s not always the case. That alone is judgmental.
I am not sorry but what?
Why are you so triggered by " poor & minority children. " What's with this fragility that you were poor but Black people had it better financially?
This is not the oppression olympics. You had a rough life. What does that have to do with children and education inequality today?
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mrsrainbow
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Segregation problems with pandemic pods
WOW at some of these comments.
JUST WOW.
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by Naturalmama
No matter how you slice it, if school buildings do not reopen in September, the children who will suffer are the poor & minority children. Their parents don't have the means to hire fancy tutors, the ability to work from home or quit their jobs, who had nothing before the pandemic, and now have less than nothing.
Here’s a question. Why do minority children automatically get lumped into the poor category?
It’s not the poor and minority children who would suffer from this ... it’s the poor. Period. That’s it. Not all minority people are poor without means to do more for their families.
If this had happened when I was a child, I would be disadvantaged immediately because I was poor. White - but dirt poor.
While a lot of the POC who I grew up with had it way better (financially) than I did.
I’m sorry. I’m not calling the poster out. I just quoted this because I see this a lot and it always bothers me when people are automatically thought to be poor because of the color of their skin. That’s not always the case. That alone is judgmental.
I am not sorry but what?
Why are you so triggered by " poor & minority children. " What's with this fragility that you were poor but Black people had it better financially?
This is not the oppression olympics. You had a rough life. What does that have to do with children and education inequality today?
Wtf is your problem? I stand by a comment I made last time you addressed me in this manner. I’m sure you don’t speak to people like this in person
Nothing about my comment said I had any issue with POC having it better than i did. If you don’t understand what I was saying in my reply then 1. Ask me like a normal human being or 2. Read it again.
I’m not “triggered” I just don’t like when people are lumped into a category by what you see. I’m Italian and Grew up in an Italian area in Bk. Is it fair to assume my family is in the mob? No. But doesn’t mean it didn’t happen (and still to this day)
referring to my underprivileged upbringing is me stating it’s the POOR in general that are at a disadvantage. And statements made that lump minority and poor automatically together bothers me. If you don’t like, skip over the post.
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| Posted 7/24/20 2:24 PM |
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Mill188
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by mrsrainbow
Capitalism is the root of all evil, kids.
So you'd much rather live in a society where the government decided what will be manufactured, what career you will pursue, and owns and controls all of the resources?
There are still disadvantaged people under socialism and communism. No form of government is perfect.
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
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Capitalism is the root of all evil, kids.
So you'd much rather live in a society where the government decided what will be manufactured, what career you will pursue, and owns and controls all of the resources?
There are still disadvantaged people under socialism and communism. No form of government is perfect.
Sounds like someone doesn't understand socialism OR communism lol
I think workers should be in charge of their production and labor. Workers should be engaging and uniting collectively to fight back against the rich (read MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRE CAPITALISTS) and take back the means of their production, their value, and their labor.
Clearly, this whole "the rich get rich off the backs of the workers and we get scraps" really isn't working with this pandemic is it?
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
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Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by Naturalmama
No matter how you slice it, if school buildings do not reopen in September, the children who will suffer are the poor & minority children. Their parents don't have the means to hire fancy tutors, the ability to work from home or quit their jobs, who had nothing before the pandemic, and now have less than nothing.
Here’s a question. Why do minority children automatically get lumped into the poor category?
It’s not the poor and minority children who would suffer from this ... it’s the poor. Period. That’s it. Not all minority people are poor without means to do more for their families.
If this had happened when I was a child, I would be disadvantaged immediately because I was poor. White - but dirt poor.
While a lot of the POC who I grew up with had it way better (financially) than I did.
I’m sorry. I’m not calling the poster out. I just quoted this because I see this a lot and it always bothers me when people are automatically thought to be poor because of the color of their skin. That’s not always the case. That alone is judgmental.
I am not sorry but what?
Why are you so triggered by " poor & minority children. " What's with this fragility that you were poor but Black people had it better financially?
This is not the oppression olympics. You had a rough life. What does that have to do with children and education inequality today?
Wtf is your problem? I stand by a comment I made last time you addressed me in this manner. I’m sure you don’t speak to people like this in person
Nothing about my comment said I had any issue with POC having it better than i did. If you don’t understand what I was saying in my reply then 1. Ask me like a normal human being or 2. Read it again.
I’m not “triggered” I just don’t like when people are lumped into a category by what you see. I’m Italian and Grew up in an Italian area in Bk. Is it fair to assume my family is in the mob? No. But doesn’t mean it didn’t happen (and still to this day)
referring to my underprivileged upbringing is me stating it’s the POOR in general that are at a disadvantage. And statements made that lump minority and poor automatically together bothers me. If you don’t like, skip over the post.
What does this mean? "While a lot of the POC who I grew up with had it way better (financially) than I did. " So...ok? What's the point of that? You have a major problem with your childhood from being poor but you knew some Black people who had money?
No one cares about Italians and the mob in 2020 so that analogy doesn't hold up Sorry (shrug)
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by Naturalmama
No matter how you slice it, if school buildings do not reopen in September, the children who will suffer are the poor & minority children. Their parents don't have the means to hire fancy tutors, the ability to work from home or quit their jobs, who had nothing before the pandemic, and now have less than nothing.
Here’s a question. Why do minority children automatically get lumped into the poor category?
It’s not the poor and minority children who would suffer from this ... it’s the poor. Period. That’s it. Not all minority people are poor without means to do more for their families.
If this had happened when I was a child, I would be disadvantaged immediately because I was poor. White - but dirt poor.
While a lot of the POC who I grew up with had it way better (financially) than I did.
I’m sorry. I’m not calling the poster out. I just quoted this because I see this a lot and it always bothers me when people are automatically thought to be poor because of the color of their skin. That’s not always the case. That alone is judgmental.
I am not sorry but what?
Why are you so triggered by " poor & minority children. " What's with this fragility that you were poor but Black people had it better financially?
This is not the oppression olympics. You had a rough life. What does that have to do with children and education inequality today?
Wtf is your problem? I stand by a comment I made last time you addressed me in this manner. I’m sure you don’t speak to people like this in person
Nothing about my comment said I had any issue with POC having it better than i did. If you don’t understand what I was saying in my reply then 1. Ask me like a normal human being or 2. Read it again.
I’m not “triggered” I just don’t like when people are lumped into a category by what you see. I’m Italian and Grew up in an Italian area in Bk. Is it fair to assume my family is in the mob? No. But doesn’t mean it didn’t happen (and still to this day)
referring to my underprivileged upbringing is me stating it’s the POOR in general that are at a disadvantage. And statements made that lump minority and poor automatically together bothers me. If you don’t like, skip over the post.
What does this mean? "While a lot of the POC who I grew up with had it way better (financially) than I did. " So...ok? What's the point of that? You have a major problem with your childhood from being poor but you knew some Black people who had money?
No one cares about Italians and the mob in 2020 so that analogy doesn't hold up Sorry (shrug)
They had it better (financially) was me acknowledging that they may not have had it better then me in general because of racism. Especially in the 80s while I was growing up. But $ wise, they were in a better place then I was.
You may not care about Italians in 2020. Good for you. But people do and comments still come up.
You are Not nice at all. This will be my last interaction with you if I can help it. Good luck in life with that attitude.
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Re: Segregation problems with pandemic pods
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Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by Naturalmama
No matter how you slice it, if school buildings do not reopen in September, the children who will suffer are the poor & minority children. Their parents don't have the means to hire fancy tutors, the ability to work from home or quit their jobs, who had nothing before the pandemic, and now have less than nothing.
Here’s a question. Why do minority children automatically get lumped into the poor category?
It’s not the poor and minority children who would suffer from this ... it’s the poor. Period. That’s it. Not all minority people are poor without means to do more for their families.
If this had happened when I was a child, I would be disadvantaged immediately because I was poor. White - but dirt poor.
While a lot of the POC who I grew up with had it way better (financially) than I did.
I’m sorry. I’m not calling the poster out. I just quoted this because I see this a lot and it always bothers me when people are automatically thought to be poor because of the color of their skin. That’s not always the case. That alone is judgmental.
I am not sorry but what?
Why are you so triggered by " poor & minority children. " What's with this fragility that you were poor but Black people had it better financially?
This is not the oppression olympics. You had a rough life. What does that have to do with children and education inequality today?
Wtf is your problem? I stand by a comment I made last time you addressed me in this manner. I’m sure you don’t speak to people like this in person
Nothing about my comment said I had any issue with POC having it better than i did. If you don’t understand what I was saying in my reply then 1. Ask me like a normal human being or 2. Read it again.
I’m not “triggered” I just don’t like when people are lumped into a category by what you see. I’m Italian and Grew up in an Italian area in Bk. Is it fair to assume my family is in the mob? No. But doesn’t mean it didn’t happen (and still to this day)
referring to my underprivileged upbringing is me stating it’s the POOR in general that are at a disadvantage. And statements made that lump minority and poor automatically together bothers me. If you don’t like, skip over the post.
What does this mean? "While a lot of the POC who I grew up with had it way better (financially) than I did. " So...ok? What's the point of that? You have a major problem with your childhood from being poor but you knew some Black people who had money?
No one cares about Italians and the mob in 2020 so that analogy doesn't hold up Sorry (shrug)
They had it better (financially) was me acknowledging that they may not have had it better then me in general because of racism. Especially in the 80s while I was growing up. But $ wise, they were in a better place then I was.
You may not care about Italians in 2020. Good for you. But people do and comments still come up.
You are Not nice at all. This will be my last interaction with you if I can help it. Good luck in life with that attitude.
Ignore her.
She is a miserable troll who jumps on any opportunity to be a bitcch.
Sad actually
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