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klingklang77
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by NervousNell
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In China when people are told to do something, the actually do it. Stay home in China means people stay home, whereas here, people flock to Costco to stock up or go out to the playgrounds to run around. That’s why we will be in lockdown longer
Exactly. My neighbor works in public health. She said in China, Korea, and Japan, people listen to the government. People in the US are not listening.
In China at least, it's probably because they are scared shitless of their govt....
Their gov’t is no better than the US. I’ll leave it at that. Germany is crap at the moment. We are not getting info like we should. My refugee friend doesn’t understand why I lost a lot of my work. My SO (he is German) is not informed about everything.
It is just announcements in the streets to stay home. There is no help about how to fill out paperwork for unemployment. They are too afraid to be on lockdown, so they don’t want to create panic, but then send out these announcements on the streets.
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Naturalmama
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Schools and Covid-19
Wow, I am sorry my question caused drama!
I am a teacher, and I am a mother. My 2 elementary aged children are in 3rd & 1st. I also have 5 yr old twins in Pre-K, and a 3 yr old, whom I need to keep busy since they do not have school work to do. On top of trying to teach my class from home, it is SO HARD. But that is the reality for every single human being right now- life is going to flat out stink for awhile.
I do believe we can get where China is now by June. I took Cuomo saying that meant 9 months was the WORST case scenario, and even if that were to come, we would not be as restricted as we are now.
People can't educate their children and work at the same time. That is not disrespectful to teachers- it is just a fact. Kids will not get the proper education that way.
I was hoping camp would be open this summer, but I do not believe that will happen. We are heading into week 2, and already this has devastated so many people. My heart is broken for this world.
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| Posted 3/22/20 3:35 PM |
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ChilisWife
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
IMO opinion telling people NOW to plan not to return to school until January 2021 is extremely irresponsible. We cannot stay locked up for 9 months. You cannot shut down a country, people's lives and livelihoods, destroy businesses, have people starving and homeless, for 9 months. Because even if the government tries to do this, the people will revolt. They will just not do it, not Americans. And you will have a lot of crime. And suicides. And people that die from every other possible disease because they can't get access to health care due to the only people being treated being coronavirus victims. At some point, as crass as it sounds, you have to weigh the deaths from coronavirus against the deaths from everything else.
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Mags1227
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by Katareen
Posted by LuckyStar
No one is blaming teachers for school being closed.
But as a non-teacher, it sucks to have to juggle working from home and teaching my child (which isn’t in MY skill set). And if we get frustrated over it or aren’t doing a great job of it we get sh!t on and told it’s our job to drown like this.
I’m just quoting you because your text is short.
My daughter’s teacher made a good point that we don’t have to stick to a Monday through Friday schedule. My job is very busy on Mondays and Tuesdays so those I’m using as kid “days off” and we do schoolwork on the weekends. The days all flow together at this point so my kids don’t know the difference. But this way I can get the bulk of my work done and I just allow them to watch TV, read, craft, play in the yard while I work.
And I understand this might not work for everyone because they might have very little children that need constant supervision or they might have older kids that need to do their work in real time. But for the K-6 set it seems to work well for us so far.
I am a teacher and this is what I am doing. My son is in Kindergarten and we are doing his main schooling on Saturday and Sunday and then incorporating 60 minutes of school work during the week. From what I have read, younger grades really only need about a hour a day as most of the skills they learn are based on socializing and motor skills. So I just try to make sure he does some coloring, cutting, lego building, etc during the time I can't teach him.
With that said, I teach HS and most f my students are doing a great job with the online learning. I will I have been using the online portal regularly since September and most of my students are "go-getters." I am currently doing way more work than I would do in a normal work. I am very Type A and had everything planned out until April break. I now need to modify everything as I am a lab based course and the transition is taking a lot of time.
i really wish we could do that! Our teachers plan on posting new ELA and assignments daily that are due that day. We can't make it up over the weekend. 
My biggest issue is the amount of typing they have. They only have technology one day a week so all of them type slow! science (which luckily was posted early) took over an hour to type out because they had 16 questions for one assignment.
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LSP2005
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
MY kids assignments are all due that day, you cannot wait until the weekend and if they are not done you get a nasty note. My kid did not realize she had to press turn it in. and did the work, so she got a not so nice email from her teacher. Honestly, they are all still learning and they know my kids is a diligent worker who has not missed turning in anything all year so I found the note rude.
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| Posted 3/22/20 4:20 PM |
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mommy2be716
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by Christine2
Maybe the best thing to do here is tell teachers to take the next 8 weeks off and then make it up during the 8 week summer break.
So many of us have been laid off or stuck working from home. Not fair to add homeschooling to our burden. If teachers feel ill equipped to handle remote learning, then let this be an early summer vacation to be made up later.
Why would teachers not agree to that? Not sure why they would "need more $$$." Seems only fair. We've all had to compromise here...
Just need to get the teacher's union on board, so that unfortunately means this reasonable idea will never, ever happen.
I was the one who said "need more $$" but that was based on the current situation, which is me currently teaching right now. Of course if I wasn't ACTUALLY working right now, maybe the idea of working in the summer would be reasonable.
I agree though, unions would never agree to it. There is alot that goes on the summer though as far as make up regents and things, so idk how that would even work anyway
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Naturalmama
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by ChilisWife
IMO opinion telling people NOW to plan not to return to school until January 2021 is extremely irresponsible. We cannot stay locked up for 9 months. You cannot shut down a country, people's lives and livelihoods, destroy businesses, have people starving and homeless, for 9 months. Because even if the government tries to do this, the people will revolt. They will just not do it, not Americans. And you will have a lot of crime. And suicides. And people that die from every other possible disease because they can't get access to health care due to the only people being treated being coronavirus victims. At some point, as crass as it sounds, you have to weigh the deaths from coronavirus against the deaths from everything else.
You said it better than I could have. Thank you. I have a 93 year old grandmother, two co workers, who are more like very close friends, who have preexisting health conditions- one is a breast cancer survivor, the other has Type 1 Diabetes. I am all for staying in to protect them, and those like them. I am willing to make that sacrifice. But, I also know I suffer from very severe anxiety & depression. I have been suicidal in my past. I am terrified that is the road I will be walking once again if this doesn't let up in a reasonable amount of time. Nine months would destroy so many, that those who did not die from Coronavirus, will be completely destroyed anyway.
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mommy2be716
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by ChilisWife
IMO opinion telling people NOW to plan not to return to school until January 2021 is extremely irresponsible. We cannot stay locked up for 9 months. You cannot shut down a country, people's lives and livelihoods, destroy businesses, have people starving and homeless, for 9 months. Because even if the government tries to do this, the people will revolt. They will just not do it, not Americans. And you will have a lot of crime. And suicides. And people that die from every other possible disease because they can't get access to health care due to the only people being treated being coronavirus victims. At some point, as crass as it sounds, you have to weigh the deaths from coronavirus against the deaths from everything else.
agree- I think my principal was expressing the worst-case scenario and telling us to pack up our classrooms and bring things home that we would need in the event we don't return until January.
Definitely don't agree with it, we would be worse off than the '08 recession. more like 1921...
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| Posted 3/22/20 4:30 PM |
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LuckyStar
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by klingklang77
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I’m sorry, but I can’t believe some of these responses in this thread. I don’t think people realize what teachers actually do. Yes, we have time off certain times of the year, but the other times are completely stressful.
In a few weeks, we have to learn a completely new way to do our career. We interact with people. That’s our job.
If people can sit there and complain about someone must teach my children and pay for taxes, then I guess a privileged life you have.
Oh and yes, people in education are getting info from their bosses about school being closed. Here they closed until about Easter, but they basically let us know that it will go on for more than that probably.
Our gatherings have been restricted to 2 people except non-essential workers.
Sorry people, but you will have to deal with your kids while you try to work. That’s life nowadays.
I think a number of people here have reiterated numerous times that our issue is not with the teachers. We don't even have a problem with the schools being closed right now. If this carries into next January... I think people have the right to complain. Do you have kids? lol It's not a matter of us just dealing with our kids. It's a matter of us having to educate our kids ourselves using the tools the district provides, while working from home and trying to maintain a level of professionalism. Again, if China is getting back to normal after 3 months, the United States better be on track for the same or less. There's no excuse.
“Do you have kids, lol” is a response I won’t deal with.There is so much to say about that.
I am usually pretty tolerant, but we are all humans. Just because you have kids and stuck indoors with them is nothing.
You’ve basically told all of us we have no right to an opinion on what teachers are doing unless we are also teachers, so can’t the same be said of people without children? Just saying...you can’t have it both ways. YOU have no idea what WE’RE going through right now.
OK, I *guess* you and I can agree to disagree.
I didn’t say you didn’t have opinion. It’s just all so frustrating for everyone. I just wish everyone could understand what everyone is going through. We are all stressed. We are all so worried about how to pay bills. Then people post about I need to work and my kids need to be taught, blah blah. Teachers are very well aware of all of this. They are also aware that we need to educate because the future generations will take care of us. It’s all such a clusterf$ck.
All we can do is comfort each other.
I’ll just be here sitting in my corner with no kids (that’s what made me angry). I don’t need to be dismissed because I have no kids.
You weren't dismissed because you don't have kids.
You were dismissed because you refused to walk in our shoes while you demanded we walk in yours.
And yes, we do need to work. Us working helps everyone. It allows us to pour that money back into the economy. It pays for restaurants and stores to provide salaries to their workers. So to "blah blah blah" the importance of us working well enough to keep our jobs is detrimental to everyone.
You said “do you have kids? Lol”. Sorry but that really hurt, plain and simple.
Restaurants are closed here. That was my side job, cooking as a line chef. I lost it. Teachers are not paid enough.
I guess I’ve been in quarantine too long.
That actually wasn't me (though I see why the poster asked).
I'm sorry you lost your side job. I'm trying as much as I can to support local businesses so others can be spared the same fate.
It's a horrible situation for everyone and we're all on edge. You're absolutely right, we all need comfort and support 
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ChilisWife
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by ChilisWife
IMO opinion telling people NOW to plan not to return to school until January 2021 is extremely irresponsible. We cannot stay locked up for 9 months. You cannot shut down a country, people's lives and livelihoods, destroy businesses, have people starving and homeless, for 9 months. Because even if the government tries to do this, the people will revolt. They will just not do it, not Americans. And you will have a lot of crime. And suicides. And people that die from every other possible disease because they can't get access to health care due to the only people being treated being coronavirus victims. At some point, as crass as it sounds, you have to weigh the deaths from coronavirus against the deaths from everything else.
You said it better than I could have. Thank you. I have a 93 year old grandmother, two co workers, who are more like very close friends, who have preexisting health conditions- one is a breast cancer survivor, the other has Type 1 Diabetes. I am all for staying in to protect them, and those like them. I am willing to make that sacrifice. But, I also know I suffer from very severe anxiety & depression. I have been suicidal in my past. I am terrified that is the road I will be walking once again if this doesn't let up in a reasonable amount of time. Nine months would destroy so many, that those who did not die from Coronavirus, will be completely destroyed anyway.
Yes, it's horrible because I don't want anyone to die, of course not - I have parents and relatives and coworkers and friends who are older or immune compromised and I too have been following directives to stay home. But you have to ask yourself if ruining millions of lives is worth saving thousands of lives - and I know people HATE comparing flu to the coronavirus but a TON of people do die from the flu each year. Are we going to shut down the world now every year? Is this the precedent we are setting?
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LuckyStar
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by ap123
In China when people are told to do something, the actually do it. Stay home in China means people stay home, whereas here, people flock to Costco to stock up or go out to the playgrounds to run around. That’s why we will be in lockdown longer
Exactly. My neighbor works in public health. She said in China, Korea, and Japan, people listen to the government. People in the US are not listening.
In China at least, it's probably because they are scared shitless of their govt....
Yes, but it helped to stop the spread and get life back to normal in a timely fashion. My DH said they had drones that wold literally find people violating the rules and fined them. This might be severe, but it stopped the virus. I still see people co-mingling with other families in my neighborhood. People keep talking about how this could be our reality for 9 months, but that is largely because people will not listen to the government.
There was, I kid you not, about 30 people gathered on someone's front lawn drinking out of solo cups in my neighborhood today.
#southshorenassau
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NervousNell
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by ap123
In China when people are told to do something, the actually do it. Stay home in China means people stay home, whereas here, people flock to Costco to stock up or go out to the playgrounds to run around. That’s why we will be in lockdown longer
Exactly. My neighbor works in public health. She said in China, Korea, and Japan, people listen to the government. People in the US are not listening.
In China at least, it's probably because they are scared shitless of their govt....
Yes, but it helped to stop the spread and get life back to normal in a timely fashion. My DH said they had drones that wold literally find people violating the rules and fined them. This might be severe, but it stopped the virus. I still see people co-mingling with other families in my neighborhood. People keep talking about how this could be our reality for 9 months, but that is largely because people will not listen to the government.
There was, I kid you not, about 30 people gathered on someone's front lawn drinking out of solo cups in my neighborhood today.
#southshorenassau
Sounds like something that would happen in my neighborhood.
#middlesuffolkcounty
These Karens just can't stand to be apart from each other.
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PitterPatter11
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by LSP2005
MY kids assignments are all due that day, you cannot wait until the weekend and if they are not done you get a nasty note. My kid did not realize she had to press turn it in. and did the work, so she got a not so nice email from her teacher. Honestly, they are all still learning and they know my kids is a diligent worker who has not missed turning in anything all year so I found the note rude.
Teachers who are expecting work the same day are ridiculous. I post all assignments on Monday and they’re due Sunday. My students all come from different backgrounds. Some are serving as pseudo parents. Others only have one computer per family.
In K my son has no work due. I pretty much have been planning all his lessons although his teacher checks in daily. We got a packet, but it seems like busy work.
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KarenK122
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Schools and Covid-19
I think we just need to give the schools a little bit of time to get things up and running. It has really only been a week and most school districts have absolutely no plan for remote learning. I "think" that districts needed to have plans sent to Albany by this weekend on how they plan on teaching for the remainder of the year, so hopefully things will start being worked out this week. There is so many moving parts in making sure kids can learn remotely I do not envy any teacher/administrator right now. I'm sure many districts are also dealing with students that do not have computers or internet connections. I have two special needs children who get a ton of therapies, I have no idea on how that is going to happen now. We all just need to be patient and hopefully things will work out the best they can.
For the person that said they may not go back until 2021. That is just ridiculous and whoever is spreading that around should be fired because it is very irresponsible and is going to cause panic.
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Katareen
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by LSP2005
MY kids assignments are all due that day, you cannot wait until the weekend and if they are not done you get a nasty note. My kid did not realize she had to press turn it in. and did the work, so she got a not so nice email from her teacher. Honestly, they are all still learning and they know my kids is a diligent worker who has not missed turning in anything all year so I found the note rude.
Teachers who are expecting work the same day are ridiculous. I post all assignments on Monday and they’re due Sunday. My students all come from different backgrounds. Some are serving as pseudo parents. Others only have one computer per family.
In K my son has no work due. I pretty much have been planning all his lessons although his teacher checks in daily. We got a packet, but it seems like busy work.
Exactly—and I’d tell my teacher just that. Some kids need supervision with their work. Supervision with access to the internet. Some kids are being cared for elsewhere while a parent works. If they have the audacity to complain about an assignment being a day late in these circumstances they need to realize different families prioritize different ways. Any paying the mortgage trumps the 20 spelling words turned in on Thursday instead of Tuesday.
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NervousNell
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by Katareen
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by LSP2005
MY kids assignments are all due that day, you cannot wait until the weekend and if they are not done you get a nasty note. My kid did not realize she had to press turn it in. and did the work, so she got a not so nice email from her teacher. Honestly, they are all still learning and they know my kids is a diligent worker who has not missed turning in anything all year so I found the note rude.
Teachers who are expecting work the same day are ridiculous. I post all assignments on Monday and they’re due Sunday. My students all come from different backgrounds. Some are serving as pseudo parents. Others only have one computer per family.
In K my son has no work due. I pretty much have been planning all his lessons although his teacher checks in daily. We got a packet, but it seems like busy work.
Exactly—and I’d tell my teacher just that. Some kids need supervision with their work. Supervision with access to the internet. Some kids are being cared for elsewhere while a parent works. If they have the audacity to complain about an assignment being a day late in these circumstances they need to realize different families prioritize different ways. Any paying the mortgage trumps the 20 spelling words turned in on Thursday instead of Tuesday.
Yep. I probably would have responded back to that in a way I might later regret. Or maybe not regret.
That's BS.
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Re: Schools and Covid-19
Posted by LSP2005
MY kids assignments are all due that day, you cannot wait until the weekend and if they are not done you get a nasty note. My kid did not realize she had to press turn it in. and did the work, so she got a not so nice email from her teacher. Honestly, they are all still learning and they know my kids is a diligent worker who has not missed turning in anything all year so I found the note rude.
That's intense and unnecessary. Everyone is adapting to this "new normal" and it's stessful! No need to get snippy for the untimely math ditto! Geesh!
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