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PhyllisNJoe
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PSA: public bathroom safety

A friend of mine was attacked by another woman in the bathroom at penn. she said she was screaming for help and the attendant ignored her as well as other people there. They just watched her get attacked. Police were right outside the bathroom but nobody ran for help. She ran out to the police who did catch the person who attacked her.

She doesn’t think the woman was mentally stable. She was then told by the arresting officer it’s going to get a lot worse Because they don’t have the room or funding for these mentally unstable people in the hospitals so they are letting them out. They are letting out 1500 in the next month.

I know some Of you travel on the trains and such. Just wanted to say keep
Your head up - maybe carry some pepper spray. Be careful out there

Posted 11/17/19 8:30 PM
 
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NervousNell
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Re: PSA: public bathroom safety

I'm going to be honest...the last few times I have been in the city I haven't felt as safe. And I have always felt safe in the city.
I just feel like it's getting worse for some reason.
Aggresive beggers, etc

Wow that is really scary. I hope your friend is ok.
Did she say what precipitated it?

Posted 11/17/19 9:09 PM
 

LuckyStar
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Terrible and scary for your friend and sad for all these people for whom funding was lost. I’m surprised no one helped and think alerting police (there’s no shortage of them in Penn) is the appropriate route. Was it a weird time?

I have never felt unsafe in the city. We were in Brooklyn with DD last night and the only time I felt uneasy was in the LIRR parking lot walking back to the car.

So sorry for your friend. Hopefully it was an isolated incident. Did something set the woman off?

Posted 11/17/19 9:49 PM
 

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PSA: public bathroom safety

It’s true. Think of how many hospitals have shut down over the years. I may get flamed for saying this... They really need to bring back long term psychiatric facilities for those who need it because here’s how it goes: they wind up having a quick 1 or 2 week stint in Inpatient, get referred to outpatient counseling, they often don’t have the means to go to counseling, stop going or stop taking meds, have another episode and get admitted inpatient a week or two again, then back to square one. Some of these people aren’t capable of self monitoring their illness and there aren’t enough resources available. Some of them turn to drugs, they have kids and the kids grow up seeing all this... it’s a bad situation all around. I must say I’m not shocked that no one intervened, seems it’s every man for himself these days. I am all for carrying mace spray...

Posted 11/17/19 9:52 PM
 

PhyllisNJoe
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Re: PSA: public bathroom safety

Posted by NervousNell

I'm going to be honest...the last few times I have been in the city I haven't felt as safe. And I have always felt safe in the city.
I just feel like it's getting worse for some reason.
Aggresive beggers, etc

Wow that is really scary. I hope your friend is ok.
Did she say what precipitated it?



She’s as ok as you can be. Mostly appalled that nobody helped or even grabbed a policeman. Nothing. As if it wasn’t happening.

She was cornered, screamed at, hair pulled and punched in the face. She said it happened because she didn’t use the stall that had no toilet paper and it obviously made this person snap

Posted 11/17/19 9:52 PM
 

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Sadly, the apathy of bystanders doesn't surprise me. It goes all the way back to the Kitty Genovese incident in the 60s where many many people heard her screaming as she was being brutally murdered and even looked out their windows and not even one called the police.

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Posted 11/17/19 10:11 PM
 

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Wow. So sorry for your friend. Glad they caught the woman and so sorry no one helped her. That's just awful.

Posted 11/17/19 10:25 PM
 

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I am so sorry for your friend. That must have been terrifying.

Last year DS and I went to go meet DH at his office and then head to the Museum of Natural History. I was blown away by how there were homeless people on every corner hitting people up for money (even while we were standing there waiting for the lights to change), and one person handing out fliers tried to hand one to my son (who was 7 at the time) when I ignored him. I have been to the city many, many times and this was an uncomfortable feeling I hadn't encountered before.

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Posted 11/17/19 10:25 PM
 

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Posted by Mrs213

It’s true. Think of how many hospitals have shut down over the years. I may get flamed for saying this... They really need to bring back long term psychiatric facilities for those who need it because here’s how it goes: they wind up having a quick 1 or 2 week stint in Inpatient, get referred to outpatient counseling, they often don’t have the means to go to counseling, stop going or stop taking meds, have another episode and get admitted inpatient a week or two again, then back to square one. Some of these people aren’t capable of self monitoring their illness and there aren’t enough resources available. Some of them turn to drugs, they have kids and the kids grow up seeing all this... it’s a bad situation all around. I must say I’m not shocked that no one intervened, seems it’s every man for himself these days. I am all for carrying mace spray...



No flames here! I agree 100%

I just had a conversation with my BF about this yesterday when we were in Grand Central. I can't believe how many homeless people we saw. From the train ride down there, to the streets, to inside Grand Cental. It's sad and scary.

Something needs to be done for everyone's safety.

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Posted 11/18/19 7:07 AM
 

PhyllisNJoe
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Re: PSA: public bathroom safety

Posted by MsSissy

Posted by Mrs213

It’s true. Think of how many hospitals have shut down over the years. I may get flamed for saying this... They really need to bring back long term psychiatric facilities for those who need it because here’s how it goes: they wind up having a quick 1 or 2 week stint in Inpatient, get referred to outpatient counseling, they often don’t have the means to go to counseling, stop going or stop taking meds, have another episode and get admitted inpatient a week or two again, then back to square one. Some of these people aren’t capable of self monitoring their illness and there aren’t enough resources available. Some of them turn to drugs, they have kids and the kids grow up seeing all this... it’s a bad situation all around. I must say I’m not shocked that no one intervened, seems it’s every man for himself these days. I am all for carrying mace spray...



No flames here! I agree 100%

I just had a conversation with my BF about this yesterday when we were in Grand Central. I can't believe how many homeless people we saw. From the train ride down there, to the streets, to inside Grand Cental. I'd sad and scary.

Something needs to be done for everyone's safety.



Completely agree with all of this.

To be honest, I’ve already told DH I don’t feel comfortable shopping at night. So anything I need done, it’s by 4:30 or it’s done online. Not only has it gotten bad everywhere in general, but now with the holidays upon us, people get even more desperate for $ and start purse snatching in parking lots. I’ve been parking as close to the stores as possible, and walking with my pepper spray in my hand , unlocked with my finger on the sprayer in hopes it’ll buy me time to run.

The fact that I feel I need to think that way really upsets me. Then I see the women with small children. Trying to get them and their items into their cars. I tend to watch and wait for them to get in their car before I leave. Hoping they don’t think I’M THE CREEP I just feel better if I’m watching and god forbid something pops off, I can get help.

The world is scary. It’s scary for us. It’s scary for those who feel this is the only way they can survive. It’s scary all around

Posted 11/18/19 8:00 AM
 

NervousNell
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Posted by MichLiz213

I am so sorry for your friend. That must have been terrifying.

Last year DS and I went to go meet DH at his office and then head to the Museum of Natural History. I was blown away by how there were homeless people on every corner hitting people up for money (even while we were standing there waiting for the lights to change), and one person handing out fliers tried to hand one to my son (who was 7 at the time) when I ignored him. I have been to the city many, many times and this was an uncomfortable feeling I hadn't encountered before.



This is exactly what I was talking about. I have never felt unsafe in the city. Just recently, I feel, especially in the area of Penn Station/8th Ave vicinity that it's gotten worse.
Aggressively coming up to you, touching you, asking for things. people who are clearly high on drugs.
It's a feeling I have never had before in the area.

Posted 11/18/19 8:34 AM
 

SusiBee
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I am so sorry that happened to your friend.
I'm surprised though, that no law enforcement helped quickly, as Penn is teeming with them.
There are a whole lot of crazies in Penn too.

I time it so that when I get to Penn, I head right down to my track and onto the train. No waiting upstairs unless there are delays.

Posted 11/18/19 8:40 AM
 

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Penn station is worse then ever these days. Homeless sleeping on the main stairs to 7th Ave, just sprawled across making commuters have to walk single file. Drug paraphernalia all over the side walk out front, and even the subways are being used as bedrooms for the homeless. Every morning my car has at least one person sprawled out sleeping pushing all us commuters to one side to avoid the stench. DiBLasio is the worst.

Posted 11/18/19 8:57 AM
 

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Posted by Bonsai
DiBLasio is the worst.



I said to my BF, I don't know what Bloomberg did with the homeless but since diBlasio there is a very clear difference!

Posted 11/18/19 9:02 AM
 

NervousNell
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Re: PSA: public bathroom safety

Posted by MsSissy

Posted by Bonsai
DiBLasio is the worst.



I said to my BF, I don't know what Bloomberg did with the homeless but since diBlasio there is a very clear difference!



Yep! He is going to turn the city into what it was in the 70s and 80s soon.
He's horrific.

Posted 11/18/19 9:09 AM
 

StaceyWill
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Re: PSA: public bathroom safety

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by MsSissy

Posted by Bonsai
DiBLasio is the worst.



I said to my BF, I don't know what Bloomberg did with the homeless but since diBlasio there is a very clear difference!



Yep! He is going to turn the city into what it was in the 70s and 80s soon.
He's horrific.



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Posted 11/18/19 9:13 AM
 

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Re: PSA: public bathroom safety

Posted by StaceyWill

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by MsSissy

Posted by Bonsai
DiBLasio is the worst.



I said to my BF, I don't know what Bloomberg did with the homeless but since diBlasio there is a very clear difference!



Yep! He is going to turn the city into what it was in the 70s and 80s soon.
He's horrific.



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I said this a few years ago on here and got FLAMED. However, I stand by it. He is the worst. The homeless population is out of control. The city is disgusting again, garbage everywhere. And I agree with PP who said we definitely need more long term psychiatric care facilities in place. Most homeless people are mentally ill and in desperate need of treatment.

Posted 11/18/19 10:12 AM
 

NervousNell
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Posted by lululu

Posted by StaceyWill

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by MsSissy

Posted by Bonsai
DiBLasio is the worst.



I said to my BF, I don't know what Bloomberg did with the homeless but since diBlasio there is a very clear difference!



Yep! He is going to turn the city into what it was in the 70s and 80s soon.
He's horrific.



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I said this a few years ago on here and got FLAMED. However, I stand by it. He is the worst. The homeless population is out of control. The city is disgusting again, garbage everywhere. And I agree with PP who said we definitely need more long term psychiatric care facilities in place. Most homeless people are mentally ill and in desperate need of treatment.



Not sure why you got flamed. A blind person can see it. It's definitely worse and yes, less safe.

Posted 11/18/19 10:30 AM
 

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How horrible; yet infuriating!

The fact that they are about to release 1500 mentally unstable patients is beyond frightening. But who is "they"? Are these mental hospitals in NYC?

Is it lack of funding? Lack of workers? Both.

Pilgrim State is such a huge facility; with 3/4 of it abandoned. I think some of it are offices? Would be great if Northwell can step in and buy a huge facility like this. They're buying everything else.
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Posted 11/18/19 10:41 AM
 

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I read about this on FB last night and was horrified. I can't believe no one helped. Sorry this happened to your friend.

The city is absolutely disgusting now. I commute everyday and it's so bad.

Posted 11/18/19 10:48 AM
 

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Posted by tray831


How horrible; yet infuriating!

The fact that they are about to release 1500 mentally unstable patients is beyond frightening. But who is "they"? Are these mental hospitals in NYC?

Is it lack of funding? Lack of workers? Both.

Pilgrim State is such a huge facility; with 3/4 of it abandoned. I think some of it are offices? Would be great if Northwell can step in and buy a huge facility like this. They're buying everything else.
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Since Rikers Island is going to be closed as a prison, why not use it to house the homeless ?
There are psychiatric hospital units there as well.
Put the island to good use rather than let it go to waste.
I can't stand this pansy of a mayor and cannot wait until he is out of office. He totally effed up this city with his passiveness.
I am old enough to remember what the city was like in the 70's and we are just about there.

Posted 11/18/19 10:55 AM
 

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I'm sorry for what happened to your friend. I'm kind of shocked that if she did scream nobody would have come because there's a police officer and info booths mere feet from the women's restrooms.

I don't find Penn to be unsafe. I travel into the city daily for work and I've never felt unsafe. There are always NYPD, State Troopers, and MTA Police, and often times armed military, too, patrolling.

Posted 11/18/19 11:18 AM
 

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Posted by tray831


How horrible; yet infuriating!

The fact that they are about to release 1500 mentally unstable patients is beyond frightening. But who is "they"? Are these mental hospitals in NYC?

Is it lack of funding? Lack of workers? Both.

Pilgrim State is such a huge facility; with 3/4 of it abandoned. I think some of it are offices? Would be great if Northwell can step in and buy a huge facility like this. They're buying everything else.
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Since Rikers Island is going to be closed as a prison, why not use it to house the homeless ?
There are psychiatric hospital units there as well.
Put the island to good use rather than let it go to waste.
I can't stand this pansy of a mayor and cannot wait until he is out of office. He totally effed up this city with his passiveness.
I am old enough to remember what the city was like in the 70's and we are just about there.



This is what they should do.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they start building multi-million dollar high-rises there instead.

Posted 11/18/19 11:19 AM
 

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Re: PSA: public bathroom safety

Posted by SusiBee

Posted by tray831


How horrible; yet infuriating!

The fact that they are about to release 1500 mentally unstable patients is beyond frightening. But who is "they"? Are these mental hospitals in NYC?

Is it lack of funding? Lack of workers? Both.

Pilgrim State is such a huge facility; with 3/4 of it abandoned. I think some of it are offices? Would be great if Northwell can step in and buy a huge facility like this. They're buying everything else.
Chat Icon



Since Rikers Island is going to be closed as a prison, why not use it to house the homeless ?
There are psychiatric hospital units there as well.
Put the island to good use rather than let it go to waste.
I can't stand this pansy of a mayor and cannot wait until he is out of office. He totally effed up this city with his passiveness.
I am old enough to remember what the city was like in the 70's and we are just about there.



ABSOLUTELY!!!

Posted 11/18/19 11:55 AM
 

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Re: PSA: public bathroom safety

Posted by MsSissy

Posted by SusiBee

Posted by tray831


How horrible; yet infuriating!

The fact that they are about to release 1500 mentally unstable patients is beyond frightening. But who is "they"? Are these mental hospitals in NYC?

Is it lack of funding? Lack of workers? Both.

Pilgrim State is such a huge facility; with 3/4 of it abandoned. I think some of it are offices? Would be great if Northwell can step in and buy a huge facility like this. They're buying everything else.
Chat Icon



Since Rikers Island is going to be closed as a prison, why not use it to house the homeless ?
There are psychiatric hospital units there as well.
Put the island to good use rather than let it go to waste.
I can't stand this pansy of a mayor and cannot wait until he is out of office. He totally effed up this city with his passiveness.
I am old enough to remember what the city was like in the 70's and we are just about there.



This is what they should do.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they start building multi-million dollar high-rises there instead.



Haha, it's directly in the flight path for LaGuardia.
Talk is building a solar farm. That would benefit everyone. But, I'm sure that no one is thinking the glare from the panels MIGHT pose a problem for the pilots who are landing and taking off from LaGuardia. Chat Icon

Posted 11/18/19 12:20 PM
 
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