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Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

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JennP
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Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

Has anyone ever had to file an External Appeal with NYS for a claim that was denied?

It's for 13k.

I don't really want to get into details, but my son was seriously injured almost a year ago (he's fine, thank G-d.)

His skull was fractured, but of course it wasn't "medically necessary" for him to go to the hospital.

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I am putting as much evidence together as I can and writing a letter, just wanted to know if anyone has BTDT and can offer advice.

TIA

Posted 5/9/18 10:36 AM
 
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Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

If it’s emergency medicine even if an out of network doctor saw him, it should be covered, is this your deductible or coinsurance?

Posted 5/9/18 11:31 AM
 

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Re: Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

Isn't there something called the "surprise bill" law? I'd look into that...

Posted 5/9/18 11:32 AM
 

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Re: Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

Wait... A skull fracture is not a medically necessary reason to visit a hospital??
Yet people use the ER as their personal Stat Health when thy have a cold?

Good Lord these insurance companies suck.
Something needs to be done.
Ridiculous

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Posted 5/9/18 12:36 PM
 

JennP
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Re: Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

Thanks everyone.

It wasn't out of network so it looks like the surprise bill law doesn't help.

They're in our network, they're just denying it.

Posted 5/9/18 3:20 PM
 

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Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

I appealed to the state for a procedure for my DD...it was extremely minor compared to your son’s injury and we were reimbursed fully.

Can the doctor that treated him (or anyone that you subsequently followed up with) write a letter on your behalf that it WAS medically necessary? And that he could have sustained further injury had he not been treated?

The whole back-and-forth probably took six months total but in the end we were totally reimbursed.

Posted 5/9/18 3:55 PM
 

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Re: Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

Have you tried talking to your hr dept?

If they are self-insured, they can force insurance to cover it.

Sorry, this sounds insane

Posted 5/9/18 7:20 PM
 

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Re: Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

Your insurance denied it and now the hospital is billing you?

Posted 5/9/18 10:09 PM
 

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Re: Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

Call the NY Attorney General and ask to speak with the healthcare division. They have a helpline for cases. I would also call your HR, and file any and all appeals. You might need an attorney.https://ag.ny.gov/bureau/health-care-bureau

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Posted 5/10/18 1:29 AM
 

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Re: Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

Posted by LSP2005

Call the NY Attorney General and ask to speak with the healthcare division. They have a helpline for cases. I would also call your HR, and file any and all appeals. You might need an attorney.https://ag.ny.gov/bureau/health-care-bureau



This. But first -

What was the denial reason?

Sometimes it's just a missing code. Often, even if it's denied, it's the hospital's responsibility, not yours. My mom had an ER/hospital stay denied because she didn't have pre-approval, but since she went through the ER first, it was the hospital's responsibility to get the pre-approval, not hers. It took about a year, but it got resolved.

Posted 5/10/18 9:26 AM
 

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Re: Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

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Posted by LSP2005

Call the NY Attorney General and ask to speak with the healthcare division. They have a helpline for cases. I would also call your HR, and file any and all appeals. You might need an attorney.https://ag.ny.gov/bureau/health-care-bureau



This. But first -

What was the denial reason?

Sometimes it's just a missing code. Often, even if it's denied, it's the hospital's responsibility, not yours. My mom had an ER/hospital stay denied because she didn't have pre-approval, but since she went through the ER first, it was the hospital's responsibility to get the pre-approval, not hers. It took about a year, but it got resolved.




They're saying it was not medically necessary.

Posted 5/10/18 10:15 AM
 

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Re: Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

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Your insurance denied it and now the hospital is billing you?



They haven't actually billed me yet, but yes that's supposed to happen.

Posted 5/10/18 10:16 AM
 

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Re: Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

Posted by queensgal

Have you tried talking to your hr dept?

If they are self-insured, they can force insurance to cover it.

Sorry, this sounds insane



DH's company has some type of health advocate and he finally contacted them. Thanks.

Posted 5/10/18 10:17 AM
 

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Re: Help, and I hate Aetna - External Appeal with NYS

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Posted by LSP2005

Call the NY Attorney General and ask to speak with the healthcare division. They have a helpline for cases. I would also call your HR, and file any and all appeals. You might need an attorney.https://ag.ny.gov/bureau/health-care-bureau



This. But first -

What was the denial reason?

Sometimes it's just a missing code. Often, even if it's denied, it's the hospital's responsibility, not yours. My mom had an ER/hospital stay denied because she didn't have pre-approval, but since she went through the ER first, it was the hospital's responsibility to get the pre-approval, not hers. It took about a year, but it got resolved.




That sounds like a first level denial. The hospital should resubmit it with more information. There are typically 3 rounds of appeals you would have. I know you said you are putting the info together, but in all likelihood, this is something the hospital will handle. Call them first.

Posted 5/10/18 10:27 AM
 
 

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