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This was posted 22 hours ago from a woman in Garden City with a son in middle school. It has been shared quite a bit (about 600 shares and counting), and I just wanted to share it here for anyone interested in reading.

There has been a lot of talk about bullying lately. I would like to share my family’s experience with bullying. My beautiful son Liam turned 13 years old on September 8. He should be in school with his friends getting excited about high school and playing soccer, but he is not. He is at a medical center in Princeton NJ being treated for depression and an eating disorder. He has actually been hospitalized for 5 weeks. He hasn’t been home or slept in his bed. He hasn’t been able to watch football with his dad on Sunday’s. How did we get here? Liam went into 7th grade very happy. He had lots of friends, he was always on the go, meeting friends on 7th street, riding his bike, playing soccer and he loved food. A cowboy sandwich was his absolute favorite. He made the 7th grade soccer team and was so happy and proud. He is an amazing soccer player and he earned a spot on that team. As the season ended and winter came, Liam gave me back his iPhone. He said, “Too much drama Mom”. Then he stopped going to 7th street. He hung out at home with us. I was happy but I kept asking if anything happened and was everything ok? He said he was fine. He played soccer in the spring with his travel team. Soccer was the one thing that remained consistent. He played every day. He carried a soccer ball everywhere we went. I kept asking don’t you want to go hang out, make plans with friends? He said no I’m fine. Towards the end of the year, he came home very upset that someone had punched him on the way to the bus at school. Liam said he didn’t know who it was. I reported the incident but no cameras were in that particular area of the building and no monitors saw anything. School ended and soccers tryouts came and Liam made the team we thought he wanted to make. Liam didn’t pick up the soccer ball for the rest of the summer. I was so confused. He started going to work with his dad at the racetrack. He started to ride horses and really liked it. He went up to Saratoga at the end of July for almost 3 weeks. While he was there my husband said Liam is not eating like he used to and when he came home I noticed the weight loss. He started to eat just 1 meal a day. I kept trying to talk with him. What is going on ? Nothing Mom, I’m fine. I took him to the doctor and he had lost about 10lbs since June. 2 Days later he was admitted to cohens children’s hospital. He hated it and said, I will eat, please let me come home. I went to bat for him. I thought he really needs to start school with his friends. I went into Garden City Middle school on the first day and met with guidance. I met with the nurses and made them aware of what was going on with Liam. I was told staff would be aware and he would be safe. Liam came home on Friday with a bruise on his face. I kept asking what happened? He said nothing, he banged it by accident. That was his birthday and we went out to celebrate that night. He didn’t eat. He barely ate the rest of the weekend. He lost 5 pounds that first week back. That Monday he didn’t go to school. We sat at the kitchen table and we cried and I said please tell me what happened. He finally couldn’t hold it in anymore. He told me he was bullied terribly in 7th grade. It started when he made the soccer team. 2 kids told him he sucked and shouldn’t have made the team. There were unnecessary pushes and kicks. He was told he was weird, he was fat, his freckles were weird, his eyebrows were weird. They used horrible language and called him nasty words. I asked him how often it happened. He looked at me crying and said,”Everyday Mom”
They broke him, he believed he was no good and stopped playing soccer because it just reminded him of them. Then he told me the bruise on his face happened on Friday, his birthday. He was putting his lock on his Gym locker and a boy came and pushed his face against the locker. He was alone in the locker room. There are no monitors in the Gym locker room. There are offices with glass windows where teachers and coaches are but not always. One of the most vulnerable places for a child is in the Gym locker room. He was not safe as I had been assured he would be.I was told “Eyes would be on him” Liam was readmitted to the hospital. My husband and I reported the incident to the school. My husband sent a letter to the principal. We met with the guidance counselor and social worker. The principal didn’t even show his face. The school conducted an investigation. Meanwhile, my son had to have a feeding tube placed and was wearing a heart monitor because his heart rate was so low from malnutrition. He had to be transferred to a more intensive facility. He is opening up more and talking about what happened and how terrible 7th grade was, he has a long road ahead of him. I wish he had come to us and told us earlier but he said he didn’t want to make a big deal or for anyone to get in trouble. I went in to discuss the results of the schools investigation yesterday. The results were unfounded. I was told Liam’s perception may have been different from reality. They just couldn’t find evidence that this happened. I have a picture of a bruise on his face, they said staff said he didn’t exhibit behavior that would suggest something just happened to him. We are so disappointed. The bully’s will continue to bully. All during this investigation the students continued to play on the school team. In professional sports, if you are under investigation for something, you usually aren’t on the field playing.
I just got an email about unity day next week. Wear your orange shirt to show you are against bullying. Seriously? What a crock of shit. Parents, watch and listen to your children. I had a parent tell me her son had a heart of gold and Liam must be a sensitive boy! Again, I was speechless!
Liam should be able to finish 8th grade with the kids he started school with in Garden city. There are so many wonderful kids and families that have reached out and shared their experiences with bullying. We have received beautiful cards and letters of well wishes and encouragement. Liam is truly a wonderful boy. He is kind and he loves his family. We miss him and want him to be home with us. So when you put on that orange shirt, really stand behind what it is supposed to mean. I think we can do more than an orange shirt. The school has closed their investigation, but this is not over. I want Liam’s story to be heard.

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Posted 10/19/17 9:02 PM
 
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I am so scared about this type of stuff once DD gets to school age. Im afraid if it did happen that she would be afraid or embarrassed to tell us. It is so sad what happens and that adults can be so blind to what kids are doing. It breaks my heart

Posted 10/19/17 9:12 PM
 

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it's sad that the district is downplaying something so serious, yet advertising this whole "unity day" campaign to the outside world

Posted 10/19/17 9:25 PM
 

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What scares me is who.is raising these assholes?

Posted 10/19/17 9:30 PM
 

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This is disgusting. I agree the district handled this VERY poorly, but it isn't their fault that the child was bullied. It's the fault of the bullies' parents. Kids aren't born knowing to call other kids fat or tell them they suck. They learn that at home. And I have no doubt that these bullies' parents refuse to believe it's their child. Because they don't see how horrible they are themselves.

I would raise hell on the child who bullies my DD. But there would be no fury like what I would unleash on my DD if she ever bullied another child.

Posted 10/19/17 9:33 PM
 

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Posted by NervousNell

What scares me is who.is raising these assholes?



This

What a horrible thing for this kid and family

My girls say there is absolutely no bullying tolerated in their MS.

Posted 10/19/17 9:47 PM
 

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Posted by NervousNell

What scares me is who.is raising these assholes?



The scary and sad part is that often (not always) the apple does not fall far from the tree. This has been my experience from meeting or knowing the parents of some of the school "bullies" in each of my kids schools. These are parents joining in with their kids at home, insulting other children. I find that a lot of times it comes from jealousy or insecurity or unhappiness but no matter - you are going to learn acceptable or unacceptable behavior from the people you are around the most. These are the parents that when you confront them about something their kid did or said, they defend their kid, or deny it, and there are never any consequences.

The story above is heartbreaking and thank goodness Liam seems to have involved and caring parents that are focused on his recovery.

Posted 10/19/17 9:57 PM
 

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This terrifies me. DS has special needs and I am terrified he will be a target. I would unleash hell if anything like this happened to him.

Posted 10/19/17 9:58 PM
 

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Ugh, this kills me.

Did anyone ever seen the story of Mallory Grossman, a 12 year old, All American girl, who took her own life this past Summer. 12. So very sad.

I think social media plays a huge part in all of this. My 10 year old will not be getting a phone anytime soon, that's for sure.

Posted 10/19/17 10:40 PM
 

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Unity day? What a slap in the face to this poor family. It's not the school's fault that the bullying is happening per se, but it is certainly the school's fault for acting like it isn't happening and, per usual, victim blaming. Now Liam is too sensitive or has confused perceptions? Give me a break. The school knows who it is. They know who the bully kids are. They probably just don't want to deal with their asshole parents. That's the bottom line.

I hope and pray for Liam. No child deserves to feel this way.

Posted 10/19/17 10:47 PM
 

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I am trying not to cry reading this.
Both my nephew and my niece attended that school.

It's absolutely disgusting when the fault lies with the victim, rather than the offender, and that such horrible behavior is enabled by lack of compassion, and by a lack of responsibility taken by the authorities.

Posted 10/20/17 7:48 AM
 

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This is terrifying. I'm so sorry for that family and the countless other ones that are going through this.
As a mother and aunt it absolutely terrifies me.

Posted 10/20/17 7:50 AM
 

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The first thing i would do is transfer this child into a different school, move to a different neighborhood and get him intensive therapy. Clearly this environment is toxic and they need to get as far away from it as possible. Many prayers to the child and his family.

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Posted 10/20/17 7:57 AM
 

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Ugh it's awful. If I ever found out my daughter was bullying anyone, she would be locked in her room for a month. I don't know how parents can be so oblivious to their kids behavior.

I hope this poor boy gets the help he needs Chat Icon

Posted 10/20/17 7:58 AM
 

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it's disgusting that this behavior is learned from the parents.

when my DD was in K - I walked her into school and we saw another kid by the classroom. I said "go down by the classroom, there's another girl there already". She told me some of the other kids told her not to be friends with that girl because she is fat". I almost lost it. It did give me an opportunity to have a great talk with her about this type of behavior and nothing like that ever happened again. I told her don't listen to or be friends with mean kids. If you like her and have fun with her by all means you should be friends. To this day my DD is STILL friends with that girl, really good friends. Point being, K kids would not even have thought to talk like that if they hadn't heard that crap from their parents. I consider us lucky that my DD gets along with everyone and does not get involved in any drama.

If the school does not act correctly in these situations I think you need to go to social media, the papers, word of mouth. Anything to let everyone know they are not handling the situation or taking care of the situation. If the bullies are never punished their behavior will not stop and get worse

Posted 10/20/17 8:19 AM
 

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Posted by Katareen

Ugh it's awful. If I ever found out my daughter was bullying anyone, she would be locked in her room for a month. I don't know how parents can be so oblivious to their kids behavior.

I hope this poor boy gets the help he needs Chat Icon



Because most likely the parents are bullies too. Ever notice the "cliquey" moms at school or the pta who don't make you feel welcome? Like it's high school all over again?
It's that kind of behavior that trickles down to the kids.
Bullying is learned. Just like racism is learned.
Kids aren't born nasty bastards. Just like kids aren't born to see someone with a different skin color as something negative.
They learn it . At home.

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Posted 10/20/17 8:22 AM
 

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This breaks my heart!!! I truly believe that there is a lack of discipline in schools and at home. This is happening way too often and no one is doing anything about it. I was bullied/hartassed in HS. After 3 months, I informed the school. The student was called in to discuss the situation. It continued the next day. He was expelled from school after that. If I had attended a public school I don’t think the situation would have been handled the same way and I would have been harassed for much longer... it’s scary and no child should ever feel like this way!

Posted 10/20/17 9:09 AM
 

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Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Katareen

Ugh it's awful. If I ever found out my daughter was bullying anyone, she would be locked in her room for a month. I don't know how parents can be so oblivious to their kids behavior.

I hope this poor boy gets the help he needs Chat Icon



Because most likely the parents are bullies too. Ever notice the "cliquey" moms at school or the pta who don't make you feel welcome? Like it's high school all over again?
It's that kind of behavior that trickles down to the kids.
Bullying is learned. Just like racism is learned.
Kids aren't born nasty bastards. Just like kids aren't born to see someone with a different skin color as something negative.
They learn it . At home.




I don't necessarily believe this is always the case. I know quite a few mean kids at school, and their parents aren't mean and nasty. Exactly the opposite, and their parents are mortified by their behavior. Sometimes kids learn this behavior from other kids. On the bus (biggest culprit IMO), on the playground, etc. On the flip side, I know kids that are snots and liars, and I see those same qualities in their parents. It's not a one size fits all thing though.

Posted 10/20/17 9:17 AM
 

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Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Katareen

Ugh it's awful. If I ever found out my daughter was bullying anyone, she would be locked in her room for a month. I don't know how parents can be so oblivious to their kids behavior.

I hope this poor boy gets the help he needs Chat Icon



Because most likely the parents are bullies too. Ever notice the "cliquey" moms at school or the pta who don't make you feel welcome? Like it's high school all over again?
It's that kind of behavior that trickles down to the kids.
Bullying is learned. Just like racism is learned.
Kids aren't born nasty bastards. Just like kids aren't born to see someone with a different skin color as something negative.
They learn it . At home.




I don't necessarily believe this is always the case. I know quite a few mean kids at school, and their parents aren't mean and nasty. Exactly the opposite, and their parents are mortified by their behavior. Sometimes kids learn this behavior from other kids. On the bus (biggest culprit IMO), on the playground, etc. On the flip side, I know kids that are snots and liars, and I see those same qualities in their parents. It's not a one size fits all thing though.



True- I think it's more how it's handled.
If I found out my daughter was bullying someone there would be hell to pay.
But you hear about these parents who find out and deny it, say, not my kid, say oh it's just kids being kids etc
how they handle it is more the issue i guess

Posted 10/20/17 9:35 AM
 

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Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Katareen

Ugh it's awful. If I ever found out my daughter was bullying anyone, she would be locked in her room for a month. I don't know how parents can be so oblivious to their kids behavior.

I hope this poor boy gets the help he needs Chat Icon



Because most likely the parents are bullies too. Ever notice the "cliquey" moms at school or the pta who don't make you feel welcome? Like it's high school all over again?
It's that kind of behavior that trickles down to the kids.
Bullying is learned. Just like racism is learned.
Kids aren't born nasty bastards. Just like kids aren't born to see someone with a different skin color as something negative.
They learn it . At home.




I don't necessarily believe this is always the case. I know quite a few mean kids at school, and their parents aren't mean and nasty. Exactly the opposite, and their parents are mortified by their behavior. Sometimes kids learn this behavior from other kids. On the bus (biggest culprit IMO), on the playground, etc. On the flip side, I know kids that are snots and liars, and I see those same qualities in their parents. It's not a one size fits all thing though.



True- I think it's more how it's handled.
If I found out my daughter was bullying someone there would be hell to pay.
But you hear about these parents who find out and deny it, say, not my kid, say oh it's just kids being kids etc
how they handle it is more the issue i guess



Very true. I would bet many kids ignore or join in bc they'd rather that than become a target themselves. It's completely disgusting that parents will brush it off when a child is obviously being harmed. However, as much as we need parents to actually hold their kids accountable, we need to all be teaching our kids how to be empathetic and stand up for others so this crap doesn't happen so much in the first place. Schools need to do more but the kids themselves are the ones who see it and unfortunately have to be the first level of defense. There's only so much schools can do when they don't necessarily see what's going on. Sometimes it's probably willful ignorance but often it is legitimately happening under their noses.

Posted 10/20/17 9:43 AM
 

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Liam should be able to stay in his school without being tortured! The point is that everyone, parents, coaches and teachers need to be on board with monitoring every kid and what goes on.
There is no doubt in my mind that these bullies learned their behaviors at home. I know for a fact that GC school district is sports competitive, but where did these kids learn to be assholes to a teammate? Not the coaches, that's for sure.

Why do we find that anytime these things are posted, we sympathetic women come out in droves, but never ever have I seen a mom say, "Oh boy I had no idea that my son was being such a mean and horrible person... we're going to fix that" or
"Yikes, maybe all of the pushing I did went way too far! I definitely have to work with him to pull that back to a healthy level" ?????
Chat Icon although it wouldn't be easy to admit, parents have to step up and realize if their kid is the one doing the bullying.

Posted 10/20/17 11:35 AM
 

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Reading this broke my heart. I agree with all the PPs, bullies are raised by bullies. That’s it.
It’s not the schools job to grow good humans...it starts at home and teachers help along by growing their minds through knowledge. This school is failing Liam terribly by not looking further into this for his sake and for the sake of other children being bullied (and you know there are others)

I know violence is not the answer, but sometimes you gotta fight fire with Fire. My sister was bullied by 2 sisters who lived down the block. There was a lot of back and forth, parents talking, kid fights, etc. until enough was enough. Both my mother AND father went their house and beat the shit out of those parents. The girls never bothered my sister or my other siblings, my cousins or anyone associated with us again. I KNOW it’s not the “right” thing to do, but god help the parents of a child who bullies any kid I love. And I’m talking about parents who are not trying their hardest to help - the not my son, not my kid, your kid started it Etc etc parents. Bullies only listen by being forced to listen.

Posted 10/20/17 12:27 PM
 

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Reading this broke my heart. I agree with all the PPs, bullies are raised by bullies. That’s it.
It’s not the schools job to grow good humans...it starts at home and teachers help along by growing their minds through knowledge. This school is failing Liam terribly by not looking further into this for his sake and for the sake of other children being bullied (and you know there are others)

I know violence is not the answer, but sometimes you gotta fight fire with Fire. My sister was bullied by 2 sisters who lived down the block. There was a lot of back and forth, parents talking, kid fights, etc. until enough was enough. Both my mother AND father went their house and beat the shit out of those parents. The girls never bothered my sister or my other siblings, my cousins or anyone associated with us again. I KNOW it’s not the “right” thing to do, but god help the parents of a child who bullies any kid I love. And I’m talking about parents who are not trying their hardest to help - the not my son, not my kid, your kid started it Etc etc parents. Bullies only listen by being forced to listen.



I totally agree but now a days unfortunately your parents would have been arrested because people now are all about crying the victim even if they were the instigator.

I hear about bullying stories weekly. It is rampant between students and even teachers/aides when they think the kids aren't listening. I am happy that our schools take bullying pretty seriously and will investigate every report but that brings up one of the problems. You need to teach your children to TELL you when it happens. They need to have enough trust in their parents or a trusted adult that they can tell their story. Waiting 6 months of constant bullying isn't going to solve anything, the damage is already done. It needs to stop immediately and I hope that my DD would tell me, which she does, if something happens. There are nasty people out there and we need to teach our children at a young age that it is not appropriate and to tell an adult as soon as it happens. If you see your friend getting bullied, tell someone. Luckily my daughter has a very good friend who told her mother about a girl who was harassing my daughter and punching her on the playground. I already knew from my own daughter and it was being handled but I was so proud of her friend for speaking up. We all need to speak up.

Posted 10/20/17 12:49 PM
 

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Posted by PhyllisNJoe

Reading this broke my heart. I agree with all the PPs, bullies are raised by bullies. That’s it.
It’s not the schools job to grow good humans...it starts at home and teachers help along by growing their minds through knowledge. This school is failing Liam terribly by not looking further into this for his sake and for the sake of other children being bullied (and you know there are others)

I know violence is not the answer, but sometimes you gotta fight fire with Fire. My sister was bullied by 2 sisters who lived down the block. There was a lot of back and forth, parents talking, kid fights, etc. until enough was enough. Both my mother AND father went their house and beat the shit out of those parents. The girls never bothered my sister or my other siblings, my cousins or anyone associated with us again. I KNOW it’s not the “right” thing to do, but god help the parents of a child who bullies any kid I love. And I’m talking about parents who are not trying their hardest to help - the not my son, not my kid, your kid started it Etc etc parents. Bullies only listen by being forced to listen.



Your parents are legit awesome.

Posted 10/20/17 1:19 PM
 

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This is heartbreaking Chat Icon

With all of the Anti-Bullying (Just yesterday all over social media), why aren't schools doing more??????????????????????????? It's always the same. Nothing happens until it escalates into death. Wasn't there something in the Bronx (?) just this week/last week where a kid killed his bully???? How is it getting to this point??

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