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mommy2be716
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Re: Death by text
Posted by lululu
Posted by blu6385
Posted by 2boys1girl
If you read texts for months before she tried to get him to admit to help and he refused, she told him she was tired of hearing every day that he wanted to kill himself. She offered to speak to his parents, get him into a program etc. and he refused. His mother even found searches on his computer about him wanting to commit suicide and how.
It seemed like right before the suicide something switched in her and her texts sounded like she thought she was helping him do something he truly wanted and talked about on the daily.
She also was suffering from depressing and anxiety and was on medication. Two mentally sick children does not create a good scenario. I don't believe she is the definition of a criminal. I believe she is the definition of mentally ill and deserves treatment. This is where I believe our judicial system fails people.
If my ex husband called me every day right now and said he was going to jump off a bridge I would probably give him directions to the nearest one. Am I now responsible for his death if he goes and does it? This was definitely a game changer in the legal world.
I really don't think I agree that she should be held responsible especially if all the above is true. Unless she physically helped him this is on the boy who did it to himself.
Its actually a little scary that she is being held responsible and I agree with this post so if I am fighting with someone and they said I am going to kill myself and I say go ahead and do the world a favor and this goes on for hours and days I can see myself saying for them to stop talking shiit and go do it already. So what now I am responsible for that person doing. Don't get me wrong I would feel horrible, and would probably need years of counseling but I certainly don't think I should be brought up on charges.
IMO only you can be responsible for yourself. I get some may not be strong enough to handle certain situations but that's not anyone else's fault or responsibility.
Has anybody been charged with something similar to this but where it was a bullying situation? I feel like I have a vague memory of someone taunting another teen over and over to kill themselves and the girl finally did it. I just can't remember if the bullying girl was charged with anything.
Yes it was a middle school girl who killed herself because she was being bullied by another girl's MOTHER who was pretending to be someone else on social media. It was sick and disgusting, and so very different from this case. The mother was going out of her way to taunt this girl and make the entire school hate her (i think she stole her daughter's boyfriend or something in that nature idk), and pushed her to kill herself. It was a clear case of cyber bullying.
I don't see how this case is like that, based on the post above.
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Re: Death by text
I just read the texts
I'm sick. Sick to my stomach
This kid This poor kid
How could she say these things. I don't care what reason.
And it them said after he got in the car and it started to fill up with carbon monoxide (she was on the phone with him)
He got out and she said to get the f*** back in
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| Posted 6/21/17 1:16 PM |
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mommyof3girls
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Re: Death by text
I also read the text message and I'm sorry but she needs to spend the rest of her life in jail. If she was so annoyed with him, she should have just changed her number, ignore his messages/phone, spoke to his family. This could have been avoided and it seems he would do anything to please her. Another PP said that if her ex husband calls bugging her about the same thing, she would tell him to do. Yes you're right but this is so different. She was having a normal conversation with him. Didn't sound like she was annoyed or angry at him. She would constantly reach out to him to see if and when he was going to do it. And then towards the end, she ask if he deleted all the messages. She's f'ing sick and needs to pay for this. Let her rot in jail. He could have been saved.
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| Posted 6/21/17 3:53 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Death by text
Sentencing is on right now if anyone is interested in watching
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| Posted 8/3/17 2:38 PM |
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ANewDayHasCome
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Death by text
I'm watching
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| Posted 8/3/17 2:51 PM |
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BargainMama
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Death by text
She is getting off. I can tell
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| Posted 8/3/17 2:56 PM |
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BargainMama
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Death by text
She is getting off. I can tell
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| Posted 8/3/17 2:56 PM |
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BargainMama
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Death by text
Ohh maybe I'm wrong
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| Posted 8/3/17 2:58 PM |
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Pumpkin1
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Re: Death by text
Posted by BargainMama
She is getting off. I can tell
She's already been found guilty and its sentencing, which I understand the prosecution is looking for 7-12 years.
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BargainMama
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Death by text
Yes, that is what I meant...getting out of going to jail. 2.5 years is a slap in the face to that family.
Oh wait, 15 months in jail. Disgusting.
Message edited 8/3/2017 3:11:12 PM.
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ANewDayHasCome
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Death by text
2.5 years is disgusting
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| Posted 8/3/17 3:18 PM |
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BargainMama
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Death by text
..and her attorney is appealing it. I think they should be taking their sentence and running.
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| Posted 8/3/17 3:20 PM |
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ANewDayHasCome
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Death by text
15 months in jail and the rest at home supervise. Wtf
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BargainMama
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Death by text
Holy shit....her jail time is being stayed. Even more disgusting.
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Re: Death by text
Posted by BargainMama
Holy shit....her jail time is being stayed. Even more disgusting.
What does that mean?
I keep seeing conflicting things. Some reports saying just probation, some saying jail time.
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| Posted 8/3/17 3:27 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Death by text
Posted by cds58019
Posted by BargainMama
Holy shit....her jail time is being stayed. Even more disgusting.
What does that mean?
I keep seeing conflicting things. Some reports saying just probation, some saying jail time.
It means she won't immediately go to jail. Her attorney is appealing her conviction, and by the time it gets to the appeals court, her sentence will likely have already been served, so I guess that is "unjust" if the conviction is overturned.
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| Posted 8/3/17 3:28 PM |
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cds58019
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Re: Death by text
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by cds58019
Posted by BargainMama
Holy shit....her jail time is being stayed. Even more disgusting.
What does that mean?
I keep seeing conflicting things. Some reports saying just probation, some saying jail time.
It means she won't immediately go to jail. Her attorney is appealing her conviction, and by the time it gets to the appeals court, her sentence will likely have already been served, so I guess that is "unjust" if the conviction is overturned.
How is that even allowed?
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| Posted 8/3/17 3:30 PM |
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Re: Death by text
she got away with it. itll go by easy for her. uck
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Death by text
they are showing this on 20/20 now at 10 PM ch 7
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ChilisWife
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Re: Death by text
How is this girl not being committed to a mental institution?!
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jame0801
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Re: Death by text
Posted by ChilisWife
How is this girl not being committed to a mental institution?!
I agree!!
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KarenK122
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Death by text
Disgraceful. The lack of a meaningful sentence gave the green light for all the bullies out there to continue with minimal consequences. Absolutely disgusting.
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xosweetiexo
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Re: Death by text
I was watching something on tv last night about this and allegedly he called her when it was starting to work bc he was scared and she told him to get back in the car and do it!! Disgusting
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jlm2008
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Re: Death by text
Posted by mommy2be716
Posted by lululu
Posted by blu6385
Posted by 2boys1girl
If you read texts for months before she tried to get him to admit to help and he refused, she told him she was tired of hearing every day that he wanted to kill himself. She offered to speak to his parents, get him into a program etc. and he refused. His mother even found searches on his computer about him wanting to commit suicide and how.
It seemed like right before the suicide something switched in her and her texts sounded like she thought she was helping him do something he truly wanted and talked about on the daily.
She also was suffering from depressing and anxiety and was on medication. Two mentally sick children does not create a good scenario. I don't believe she is the definition of a criminal. I believe she is the definition of mentally ill and deserves treatment. This is where I believe our judicial system fails people.
If my ex husband called me every day right now and said he was going to jump off a bridge I would probably give him directions to the nearest one. Am I now responsible for his death if he goes and does it? This was definitely a game changer in the legal world.
I really don't think I agree that she should be held responsible especially if all the above is true. Unless she physically helped him this is on the boy who did it to himself.
Its actually a little scary that she is being held responsible and I agree with this post so if I am fighting with someone and they said I am going to kill myself and I say go ahead and do the world a favor and this goes on for hours and days I can see myself saying for them to stop talking shiit and go do it already. So what now I am responsible for that person doing. Don't get me wrong I would feel horrible, and would probably need years of counseling but I certainly don't think I should be brought up on charges.
IMO only you can be responsible for yourself. I get some may not be strong enough to handle certain situations but that's not anyone else's fault or responsibility.
Has anybody been charged with something similar to this but where it was a bullying situation? I feel like I have a vague memory of someone taunting another teen over and over to kill themselves and the girl finally did it. I just can't remember if the bullying girl was charged with anything.
Yes it was a middle school girl who killed herself because she was being bullied by another girl's MOTHER who was pretending to be someone else on social media. It was sick and disgusting, and so very different from this case. The mother was going out of her way to taunt this girl and make the entire school hate her (i think she stole her daughter's boyfriend or something in that nature idk), and pushed her to kill herself. It was a clear case of cyber bullying.
I don't see how this case is like that, based on the post above.
I don't either.I watched the 20/20 special last night, but missed last 20 minutes, so I very well could be missing pertinent information. But based on what i saw for two YEARS she was trying to convince him not to commit suicide, get him in a program , talk to someone for him. How is this her fault? He was mentally ill as is she. But do you know how draining it can be when you feel like someones caretaker? I have a friend who has been threatening suicide for over 20 years...there are times I want to just say do it already, but that doesn't make me liable. Where were this kids parents? They didn't realize for years their son is suicidal and depressed. Great parenting there.
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KarenK122
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Re: Death by text
Posted by jlm2008
Posted by mommy2be716
Posted by lululu
Posted by blu6385
Posted by 2boys1girl
If you read texts for months before she tried to get him to admit to help and he refused, she told him she was tired of hearing every day that he wanted to kill himself. She offered to speak to his parents, get him into a program etc. and he refused. His mother even found searches on his computer about him wanting to commit suicide and how.
It seemed like right before the suicide something switched in her and her texts sounded like she thought she was helping him do something he truly wanted and talked about on the daily.
She also was suffering from depressing and anxiety and was on medication. Two mentally sick children does not create a good scenario. I don't believe she is the definition of a criminal. I believe she is the definition of mentally ill and deserves treatment. This is where I believe our judicial system fails people.
If my ex husband called me every day right now and said he was going to jump off a bridge I would probably give him directions to the nearest one. Am I now responsible for his death if he goes and does it? This was definitely a game changer in the legal world.
I really don't think I agree that she should be held responsible especially if all the above is true. Unless she physically helped him this is on the boy who did it to himself.
Its actually a little scary that she is being held responsible and I agree with this post so if I am fighting with someone and they said I am going to kill myself and I say go ahead and do the world a favor and this goes on for hours and days I can see myself saying for them to stop talking shiit and go do it already. So what now I am responsible for that person doing. Don't get me wrong I would feel horrible, and would probably need years of counseling but I certainly don't think I should be brought up on charges.
IMO only you can be responsible for yourself. I get some may not be strong enough to handle certain situations but that's not anyone else's fault or responsibility.
Has anybody been charged with something similar to this but where it was a bullying situation? I feel like I have a vague memory of someone taunting another teen over and over to kill themselves and the girl finally did it. I just can't remember if the bullying girl was charged with anything.
Yes it was a middle school girl who killed herself because she was being bullied by another girl's MOTHER who was pretending to be someone else on social media. It was sick and disgusting, and so very different from this case. The mother was going out of her way to taunt this girl and make the entire school hate her (i think she stole her daughter's boyfriend or something in that nature idk), and pushed her to kill herself. It was a clear case of cyber bullying.
I don't see how this case is like that, based on the post above.
I don't either.I watched the 20/20 special last night, but missed last 20 minutes, so I very well could be missing pertinent information. But based on what i saw for two YEARS she was trying to convince him not to commit suicide, get him in a program , talk to someone for him. How is this her fault? He was mentally ill as is she. But do you know how draining it can be when you feel like someones caretaker? I have a friend who has been threatening suicide for over 20 years...there are times I want to just say do it already, but that doesn't make me liable. Where were this kids parents? They didn't realize for years their son is suicidal and depressed. Great parenting there.
Then you change your number, stop answering the person, tell a responsible adult. Being tired of the complaining is not an excuse. She enabled him and has a part of the blame.
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