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pharmcat2000
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now

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Posted by DaniRella

I'm not going to comment personally/specifically on this matter - like I didn't in the previous post. But rather occasionally post either an article or a statement that I feel is important for people to see, and that echoes my feelings...

My brother's PBA President, in Nassau County, released this statement...

Nassau County PBA

NASSAU COUNTY PBA STATEMENT REGARDING THE MURDER OF TWO NYPD OFFICERS YESTERDAY

MINEOLA, NY (December 21, 2014) -

Nassau County Police PBA President James Carver has released the following statement:

“The assassination of Officers Wen Jian Liu, a seven year veteran of the force, and Officer Rafael Ramos is a horrific and horrendous act. This kind of violence against police officers cannot be tolerated or forgotten across the nation. Our officers risk their lives everyday. My heartfelt sympathies and condolences goes out to the officer's families and all the members of the NYPD.

We support NYPD PBA President Patrick Lynch in his condemnation of Mayor de Blasio's anti-police statements. No elected official should not fully support the men and women that serve to protect our citizens everyday."



Here is part of the statement from the PBA

'The mayor's hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words, actions and policies and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a "wartime" police department. We will act accordingly.'

This is ridiculous. First of all the mayor's hands are not "literally" dripping with blood. And who are they going to war against? Anyone who criticizes the PD? Its insane that that the slightest bit of criticism turns into some kind of declaration of war.

There is absolutely no room in their minds for considering the way that the general public has come to fear them, or to reflect on and change the reasons why.






I don't usually like to get involved in these types of posts, but I will post this one thing to clarify this. The statement you are quoting was a statement put out to the police officers...not a public statement. And as you said, you only quoted part of the statement. It was not telling them that they are in a war, but that they are to follow wartime-like protocols that I'm sure they are taught in the Police Academy, as far as how to proceed with incidents as they are occurring, not serving routine summonses, patrolling in groups of 3, etc.

Posted 12/24/14 5:18 AM
 
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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now

Posted by Goobster

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. A fing men !!! I cannot tell you how many times I have thought this especially since so many of the media commentators ******** and moaning about the police return to their safe, upscale neighborhoods and dont have the slightest idea of what life in like in a bad neighborhoods that cops are trying to keep safe.



Someone in the other thread said that maybe black cops in black areas is a good way to solve this. If that ever happened, then you will hear only that whites are given the safer areas to patrol, and the black cops are stuck in high crime areas b/c their lives are less important. The police can't win.Chat Icon


Actually thats not what I said. I said that speaking with people in certain communities they felt that they needed more diversity. Currently it is predominantly caucasian cops and perhaps having a mix-black and white TOGETHER in those communities may help with relations. (Ive seen this issue for myself on Jamaica Ave in Queens and perhaps thats why I get what they mean) If it sounded like only black cops were wanted then no-that would make no sense and create different issues.

Im done. Merry Xmas. Happy Holidays everyone.

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Posted 12/24/14 10:02 AM
 

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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now

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Posted by sometimesmommy

Posted by cowgirlkate

NYPD MOS Opinion piece in NY Post

If you take the time to read this entire piece, you can better understand why people may believe the Mayor could have taken better care in preventing what happened.


Sorry still don't agree even after this article but I see how deep these deaths have hit the NYPD and get their pain. However the blame goes to the person who committed the murders. To blame De Blasio to me is like saying the store that sold a woman the dress she wore before she was raped has liability...it doesnt make sense but that's my opinion.



So you don't see anything in this? When children get wild, rambunctious, crazy, isn't it OUR job as parents to control them so to keep them safe? Keep our homes safe? etc? Do we allow our children to throw things, break things, throw balls around in the house, etc? We have rules to keep them safe and our homes safe. Do we allow our children to take control of us, scream at us, spit at us, disrespect us, chant at us, etc, break our possessions, etc, when we try to reprimand them?

So why would it NOT be the mayor's job to take control when the public gets out of control and the police are being so disrespected that they won't be able to gain control? It is the mayor's job to protect our city, esp since he allowed the protests. But he did nothing when things got out of control. He is the mayor, the protector, the "parent" of NYC. And he let the inmates run the asylum, which is a big NO NO.

How can this not be seen?[/Quote

I dont see DeBlasio's hands dripping with blood. Could he have said something or done something differently perhaps but I dont agree with the extreme. Sorry.

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Posted 12/24/14 10:12 AM
 

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Re: DeBlasio speaking at Police Athletic League now

Posted by MrsDamonSalv7319

Posted by Summergirl

And since this thread is about De Blasio and I can't get the threads to open that I previously posted, I am copying and pasting this little tidbit about De Blasio so those that think he's doing a great job can see what a liar and hypocrite he is. Talking out of both sides of his mouth about Garner's crime not being so bad , but doing this behind the scenes the week of the Grand jury decision:

From the NY Post 12/16/14-
De Blasio quietly filed untaxed cig suit the week of Garner decision


Mayor Bill de Blasio ordered city lawyers to stay silent about a groundbreaking lawsuit to keep bootleg cigarettes out of the Big Apple — because it came as Hizzoner was downplaying the illegal cigarette sales that led to the ill-fated police arrest of Eric Garner, The Post has learned.

The city Law Department drafted the civil racketeering suit the same week that a Staten Island grand jury did not indict NYPD cop Daniel Pantaleo in Garner’s chokehold death, and it was quietly filed in Brooklyn federal court on Dec. 9.

The Law Department drafted a press release boasting that the suit “is the first of its kind brought by the city against an out-of-state entity for supplying cigarette traffickers,” sources said.

But City Hall suppressed the news, ordering the Law Department not to put out the release, according to the sources.

The move kept de Blasio from looking like a hypocrite for cracking down on illegal tobacco sales at the same time he was minimizing Garner’s criminal activity, which led to his deadly July 17 arrest.

“Eric Garner was a decent man. Obviously, it was a minor offense he was committing — there’s no way it should have ended up in this situation,” de Blasio told HOT 97 radio on Dec. 4, a day after the grand jury ruling.

One city official said, “City Hall knew they had screwed up, so they squashed the press release.

“You can’t have the mayor blabbing away that selling loosies is a ‘minor offense,’ but then have the Law Department, which represents and protects the city and the mayor’s interests, file this suit,” the official said. “It reeks of duplicity.”

The official, citing de Blasio’s “Tale of Two Cities” campaign rhetoric, added that “the mayor has a problem with two cities, and he created it.”

“On one hand, to pander to his voting base, he spews some nonsense that selling loosies is a ‘minor offense,’” the official said.

“But, on the other hand, he realizes this is a major issue with serious ramifications if left unchecked and he has the city’s Law Department file this first-of-its-kind federal lawsuit against the smoke shop.”

According to a March report by Bloomberg News, an estimated 57 percent of the cigarettes smoked in New York are smuggled across state lines to avoid hefty state and city taxes that add $58.50 to the cost of a carton.

The city’s suit targets Discount Tobacco & Things of Woodbridge, Va., and its president, Gaby Nouhra, who are accused of conspiring to violate the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.

Court papers say the smoke shop, located in a suburban strip mall outside Richmond, is where alleged Staten Island bootlegger Michael Zekry bought more than 2,500 cartons of cigarettes that cops found in his van last month.

“Zekry had for at least the prior two years purchased similar quantities of cigarettes from DT&T, and made those purchases far more frequently than every 10 weeks,” according to the suit.

The suit seeks a court order barring DT&T from distributing cigarettes in New York, along with all illegal profits and unspecified damages, including three times the amount of tax money lost to the alleged trafficking scheme.

Nouhra didn’t return a request for comment.



Thank you! I've been saying from day 1 w/ Garner that the real outrage should be at the law and not at the police for trying to arrest him!!

Basically Eric Garner died bc the city is cracking down on illegal cigarettes to collect TAX dollars!

The cops don't make the laws! This mayor should be ashamed! (And I'm sure this started with Bloomberg!)



I think Deblasio is a slime ball and obviously kept this quiet because it goes against what he publicly said about garner committing a minor offense. But I don't think the law is the problem. I think the reason this happened is because Garner chose to BREAK the law, albeit a minor one.

Laws are there for a reason. If you don't agree with it, try to make a change. There are reasons for the regulation of cigarettes beyond taxes...and he isn't dead because he sold cigarettes and got caught, he also resisted arrest which was the bigger issue.

Why did Eric Garner die because of the law and cracking down on illegal cigarettes and not me or you?? Because the law isn't the problem, those thinking they are above the law, are.

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