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BusyB
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Re: Would I be a really nasty neighbor?

Posted by LIMomma

WOW in TOH you need a signature from everyone on the block, majority approved and approval from fire and police. 10 % ? So if you have 20 people on your block and two neighbors want to have a block party they can shut down the street? That just seems crazy to me... No wonder they weren't concerned with responding to you. :(



I believe they need signatures of everyone on the block but that if 10% are against it, then they can't have it.

Posted 7/25/13 8:03 AM
 
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Re: Would I be a really nasty neighbor?

Posted by MC09

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Wow this thread has gotten real nasty on both sides of the argument. No religion is better than any other. Everyone deserves the same level of respect, regardless of race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, etc. I think it's just as disgusting to suggest that Christian/Catholic holidays are all about candy and games, blasting gangster rap in a church (which doesn't even make sense in this analogy as I don't think the block party is actually taking place in a temple or other house of worship??... although, I did see your apology and I thank you for it), and someone else who said you can't compare Lent or Good Friday to Yom Kippur, or whatever other garbage has been spewed on this thread as it is to tell the OP that she shouldn't care, she shouldn't expect accommodations, she would be the nasty neighbor for not signing and being a party pooper, etc. I think people need to exercise a bit more tolerance, understanding, and respect on all sides.

OP, I'm sorry you have to be put in this situation. I think it's wrong that they would even suggest having the party on such a solemn and religious holiday. The date should never have even been on the table as an option, regardless if it was only one family or more that were negatively impacted by it. It's still excluding that one family. I feel bad for OP's children who won't be able to attend the festivities with the other children and don't understand why and will feel like they're being punished and left out. Ignoring her email is just wrong and compounds the problem and the insensitivity. They should address her email at the very least. Having a block party on that date puts burden on her family and her guests and how are they supposed to observe their solemn holiday with all the background noise carrying on? It's just rude.

And, ftr, I'm Catholic and admittedly don't know much about the holiday, but I do know it's disrespectful and in poor taste to exclude anyone. It is discrimination in its simplest form, regardless of whether or not it was intentional (and I hope it's not)... No, it's not the same as a family having prior arrangements to go on vacation, birthday party, christening, bar mitzvah, or whatever else, because you can't foresee these types of events and can't possibly accommodate every family's events... but, at the very least you can be respectful and not have a loud block party going on while people are trying to observe a SOLEMN HOLY DAY. It's not the same as saying "i wouldn't care if they held the party on Christmas" because we all know that would never happen in the US. And just because YOU wouldn't care if the party was held on Christmas doesn't mean ANOTHER family on the block wouldn't... It is about RESPECT!

Though I'm personally not a fan of block parties and find them annoying, inconveniencing, and more work than they're actually worth, they're supposed to be about bringing the neighborhood together... This is not the way to accomplish that. I'm infuriated for you! I think it's disgusting! If you were my neighbor and you brought all this to my attention, and they ignored your requests, I would probably not sign either as a sign of solidarity. And, I would tell the association exactly why. Pick another date a--holes!



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Posted 7/25/13 11:58 AM
 

rojerono
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Re: Would I be a really nasty neighbor?


I'm sorry you are in this situation.

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Posted 7/25/13 12:35 PM
 

Lola0703
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Re: Would I be a really nasty neighbor?

Posted by JennyPenny

Posted by MC09

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Wow this thread has gotten real nasty on both sides of the argument. No religion is better than any other. Everyone deserves the same level of respect, regardless of race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, etc. I think it's just as disgusting to suggest that Christian/Catholic holidays are all about candy and games, blasting gangster rap in a church (which doesn't even make sense in this analogy as I don't think the block party is actually taking place in a temple or other house of worship??... although, I did see your apology and I thank you for it), and someone else who said you can't compare Lent or Good Friday to Yom Kippur, or whatever other garbage has been spewed on this thread as it is to tell the OP that she shouldn't care, she shouldn't expect accommodations, she would be the nasty neighbor for not signing and being a party pooper, etc. I think people need to exercise a bit more tolerance, understanding, and respect on all sides.

OP, I'm sorry you have to be put in this situation. I think it's wrong that they would even suggest having the party on such a solemn and religious holiday. The date should never have even been on the table as an option, regardless if it was only one family or more that were negatively impacted by it. It's still excluding that one family. I feel bad for OP's children who won't be able to attend the festivities with the other children and don't understand why and will feel like they're being punished and left out. Ignoring her email is just wrong and compounds the problem and the insensitivity. They should address her email at the very least. Having a block party on that date puts burden on her family and her guests and how are they supposed to observe their solemn holiday with all the background noise carrying on? It's just rude.

And, ftr, I'm Catholic and admittedly don't know much about the holiday, but I do know it's disrespectful and in poor taste to exclude anyone. It is discrimination in its simplest form, regardless of whether or not it was intentional (and I hope it's not)... No, it's not the same as a family having prior arrangements to go on vacation, birthday party, christening, bar mitzvah, or whatever else, because you can't foresee these types of events and can't possibly accommodate every family's events... but, at the very least you can be respectful and not have a loud block party going on while people are trying to observe a SOLEMN HOLY DAY. It's not the same as saying "i wouldn't care if they held the party on Christmas" because we all know that would never happen in the US. And just because YOU wouldn't care if the party was held on Christmas doesn't mean ANOTHER family on the block wouldn't... It is about RESPECT!

Though I'm personally not a fan of block parties and find them annoying, inconveniencing, and more work than they're actually worth, they're supposed to be about bringing the neighborhood together... This is not the way to accomplish that. I'm infuriated for you! I think it's disgusting! If you were my neighbor and you brought all this to my attention, and they ignored your requests, I would probably not sign either as a sign of solidarity. And, I would tell the association exactly why. Pick another date a--holes!



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Posted 7/25/13 12:56 PM
 

HoneyBadger
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Would I be a really nasty neighbor?

To the OP...

I would love to see the reactions of your neighbors if they ever saw this thread!

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Posted 7/25/13 1:28 PM
 

AScottWolf
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Re: Would I be a really nasty neighbor?

Posted by HoneyBadger

To the OP...

I would love to see the reactions of your neighbors if they ever saw this thread!

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And now I hope you all have that song (this is the song that never ends...) in your head! Ha! Chat Icon



Ugh... Thank you!!!!Chat Icon

They'd probably think we're all out of our minds! (Which might not be too far from the truth).

On the positive side, no one can say that we're not passionate about our beliefs...whatever they may be.

Posted 7/25/13 1:54 PM
 

MrsGmomof3
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Re: Would I be a really nasty neighbor?

Posted by InShock

This is not a Christian/Jewish debate. Why are some people making it one? It's simply about common courtesy and respect. It is disrespectful to have a block party on Yom Kippur when there is at least one Jewish family on the block.



We have 2 families of Jehovah's witnesses on my block. So considering that they obviously will not ever participate no matter what the date, does that mean the rest of us shouldn't plan a block party so they aren't "offended"?


I'm being serious. It never occurred to me as a non religious person that we were offending someone. It seems that majority rules in cases like this. People can choose to feel offended, but what does that really do?

Posted 7/25/13 3:38 PM
 

InShock
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Re: Would I be a really nasty neighbor?

Posted by MrsGmomof3

Posted by InShock

This is not a Christian/Jewish debate. Why are some people making it one? It's simply about common courtesy and respect. It is disrespectful to have a block party on Yom Kippur when there is at least one Jewish family on the block.



We have 2 families of Jehovah's witnesses on my block. So considering that they obviously will not ever participate no matter what the date, does that mean the rest of us shouldn't plan a block party so they aren't "offended"?


I'm being serious. It never occurred to me as a non religious person that we were offending someone. It seems that majority rules in cases like this. People can choose to feel offended, but what does that really do?



Why wouldn't a Jehovah's witness participate in a block party?

Posted 7/25/13 3:40 PM
 

EatingMyVeggies

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Would I be a really nasty neighbor?

Jehovah witnesses can attend a block party. From what I know, at least.

Posted 7/25/13 3:42 PM
 

Goldi0218
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Re: Would I be a really nasty neighbor?

They can. We used to have holiday parties at work. They were changed to "Winter Gatherings" so the Jehovah Witnesses in my agency could participate. That accommodation was made but one year someone stupidly made the "winter gathering" on a Friday night. Many staff members couldn't participate. Yes. It happened. It was rude.

Posted 7/25/13 3:55 PM
 

tara73
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Would I be a really nasty neighbor?

Some of the responses in this thread make me weep for the future. I grew up in such a melting pot I just don't get the hate.

To the OP, here's how I see it:

It doesn't matter if anyone here thinks it's rude or not. If it bothers you, it bothers you. You don't have to justify it to anyone here.

Always stand up for your beliefs, even in the face of adversity. If the situation bothers you, don't sign. Period. Don't feel guilty, don't feel like the bad guy, don't let them get the best of you.

Stand up for what you believe in and don't sign it. You're setting a good example for your children. You worry about having to watch a block party go on. Use it as an opportunity to teach them about your religious beliefs, your customs, and being a leader who stands up for their beliefs, not a follower who succumbs to peer pressure. And yes, even little kids at 3 or 4 understand the basic concepts of right and wrong if you explain it properly.

Posted 7/25/13 7:27 PM
 

mosa77
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Would I be a really nasty neighbor?

I don't think the whole block has to sign, we had a block party and we had to put the blockade after the house of the person who wouldn't sign it .....have you voiced your opinion to the whole block maybe they will change their minds on the date if you explain how important the holiday is to you and your family

Posted 7/26/13 11:58 PM
 
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