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2BadSoSad
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woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

If we have to do it ourselves, so be it! 'bout time someone did!

Posted 10/24/14 6:59 PM
 
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woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Finally someone trying to be proactive!

Posted 10/24/14 7:02 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Again this is being done based on public opinion and to ease fear. Its not based on science.

Im all for being proactive and overly cautious but im not sure if this is where resources should be allocated.

Again we will see when we look back in 30 years as we are doing with HIV/AIDS. Although EVD has been around longer.....

Posted 10/24/14 7:22 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Posted by stinger

Again this is being done based on public opinion and to ease fear. Its not based on science.

Im all for being proactive and overly cautious but im not sure if this is where resources should be allocated.

Again we will see when we look back in 30 years as we are doing with HIV/AIDS. Although EVD has been around longer.....

. I don't care why they are doing it or what it is or isn't based in. I for one am glad they are doing it.

Posted 10/24/14 7:57 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by stinger

Again this is being done based on public opinion and to ease fear. Its not based on science.

Im all for being proactive and overly cautious but im not sure if this is where resources should be allocated.

Again we will see when we look back in 30 years as we are doing with HIV/AIDS. Although EVD has been around longer.....

. I don't care why they are doing it or what it is or isn't based in. I for one am glad they are doing it.




Im with you!

Posted 10/24/14 8:00 PM
 

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Posted 10/24/14 8:06 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Posted by jendar

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by stinger

Again this is being done based on public opinion and to ease fear. Its not based on science.

Im all for being proactive and overly cautious but im not sure if this is where resources should be allocated.

Again we will see when we look back in 30 years as we are doing with HIV/AIDS. Although EVD has been around longer.....

. I don't care why they are doing it or what it is or isn't based in. I for one am glad they are doing it.




Im with you!



Me too. It's a tiny start. If the doctor was under quarantine from day one his girlfriend, two friends, a driver and a can driver wouldn't be on quarantine. The bowling alley wouldn't have had to close for a massive cleaning. Police officers and a hazmat crew wouldn't have had to clean his apt. It's proactive and at least something.

Posted 10/24/14 8:46 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Posted by jendar

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by stinger

Again this is being done based on public opinion and to ease fear. Its not based on science.

Im all for being proactive and overly cautious but im not sure if this is where resources should be allocated.

Again we will see when we look back in 30 years as we are doing with HIV/AIDS. Although EVD has been around longer.....

. I don't care why they are doing it or what it is or isn't based in. I for one am glad they are doing it.




Im with you!



Me too!

Posted 10/24/14 8:48 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Posted by stinger

Again this is being done based on public opinion and to ease fear. Its not based on science.

Im all for being proactive and overly cautious but im not sure if this is where resources should be allocated.

Again we will see when we look back in 30 years as we are doing with HIV/AIDS. Although EVD has been around longer.....



I agree but feel it needs to be done to ease fears and protect businesses and tourism - especially leading into the busy holiday season.

Posted 10/24/14 8:49 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Posted by stinger

Again this is being done based on public opinion and to ease fear. Its not based on science.

Im all for being proactive and overly cautious but im not sure if this is where resources should be allocated.

Again we will see when we look back in 30 years as we are doing with HIV/AIDS. Although EVD has been around longer.....



Agreed.

Posted 10/24/14 10:12 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

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Posted 10/25/14 2:49 PM
 

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Posted 10/25/14 2:53 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

About time. Common sense here people.

Posted 10/25/14 4:18 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Where are they being quarantined? How is it being enforced? Who is paying for the quarantine? How are these people going to be able to survive for 3 weeks without a paycheck?

If someone wants to come into the country, they'll just say, "No, I wasn't exposed to anyone with Ebola." "Oh, OK, you're free to go, then."

I don't see this as being overly effective, just a panacea to make people think something is being done, which may make things actually more dangerous, since everyone will think there is protection in place, they'll be less vigilant on their own. False sense of security is often more dangerous than the "danger" you think you're protected from.

Posted 10/25/14 4:35 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Posted by GoldenRod

Where are they being quarantined? How is it being enforced? Who is paying for the quarantine? How are these people going to be able to survive for 3 weeks without a paycheck?

If someone wants to come into the country, they'll just say, "No, I wasn't exposed to anyone with Ebola." "Oh, OK, you're free to go, then."



Agreed on all points!!

Posted 10/25/14 5:55 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

There is a thing called a passport that indicates everywhere they travelled from. If they are coming from an ebola ravaged area, they will know no matter what someone tries to say.

I don't care why they are doing it, but it's best that it is done. TBH, taking temps and asking questions alone is stupid if they are just going to get sick days later. Quarantine for full duration of incubation period is based more on science than screening at the airport and crossing fingers.

ETA: As far as paying for it. Yes we are. Its a public health issue and it's necessary use of our tax dollars.

Message edited 10/25/2014 6:21:33 PM.

Posted 10/25/14 6:19 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Amen finally. Kudos to these Governors. That's how you lead.

Posted 10/25/14 7:56 PM
 

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Amen finally. Kudos to these Governors. That's how you lead.




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Posted 10/25/14 8:03 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Posted by LittleBlueBug

There is a thing called a passport that indicates everywhere they travelled from. If they are coming from an ebola ravaged area, they will know no matter what someone tries to say.



I've been out of the country plenty of times where they didn't scan or stamp my passport. I could have easily taken a connecting flight from some other location and they would never know.

Posted 10/25/14 8:14 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Posted by Blazesyth

Posted by LittleBlueBug

There is a thing called a passport that indicates everywhere they travelled from. If they are coming from an ebola ravaged area, they will know no matter what someone tries to say.



I've been out of the country plenty of times where they didn't scan or stamp my passport. I could have easily taken a connecting flight from some other location and they would never know.



We really don't have good enough technology that couldn't track where people have left from? For some reason I doubt that.

Posted 10/25/14 8:44 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Posted by Blazesyth

Posted by LittleBlueBug

There is a thing called a passport that indicates everywhere they travelled from. If they are coming from an ebola ravaged area, they will know no matter what someone tries to say.



I've been out of the country plenty of times where they didn't scan or stamp my passport. I could have easily taken a connecting flight from some other location and they would never know.



Also from what I'm understanding, traveling from these countries will NOT be an automatic quarantine. They'll just question your interaction/contact with Ebola patients, and like above posters said, people can lie.

I'd also like to know how the quarantines will be enforced. Are they putting these people in a hospital? On house arrest? What are the consequences for breaking quarantine?

Posted 10/25/14 9:07 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

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Posted by Blazesyth

Posted by LittleBlueBug

There is a thing called a passport that indicates everywhere they travelled from. If they are coming from an ebola ravaged area, they will know no matter what someone tries to say.



I've been out of the country plenty of times where they didn't scan or stamp my passport. I could have easily taken a connecting flight from some other location and they would never know.



We really don't have good enough technology that couldn't track where people have left from? For some reason I doubt that.



I'm sure they do for at least terrorism purposes. I was just pointing out that just looking at or scanning a passport when someone goes thru customs will not give all vital information.

In theory they should have all flight manifests for X amount of time, I'm sure they could cross reference what flights someone was on in the past 21 days to see if someone has come from a potentially infected area. Not sure how long that would take, and if it would be viable to do it for every single person coming into the US; nor if airlines not based in the US would supply that information to us.

Posted 10/25/14 9:12 PM
 

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woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Aside from attempting biological terrorism, I am doubtful that most people would risk it and lie, especially since we would have to treat them if they get ill. I also find it hard to believe that we would really have that much difficulty finding out where people are originating from in this day and age of terrorism.

ETA: I think it would also be in other countries best interest to work with us and cooperate since we are providing assistance to them through this crisis. Besides, no one wants this knocking on their door, which is why some countries have banned flights. So again, in their best interest to provide information on passangers if need be. I doubt most of the population from these countries really have the resources to travel to other countries to come to ours. That's an awful lot of effort...would make me wonder what their motive would be.

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Posted 10/25/14 9:19 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Posted by LittleBlueBug

I doubt most of the population from these countries really have the resources to travel to other countries to come to ours.



I don't think some are worried about the native population from the countries in question, they are more worried about other folks who are passing thru.

For example, a doctor that goes to an ebola area to help, like the Dr in NYC. If he doesn't want to come back to a quarantine, he could goto France (for example) and then fly from France to the US.


ETA: To the point of you don't think people would be stupid, risk it and lie - think of how stupid people have been already been risking it. Going to get soup, on a cruise ship, bowling, subway, etc etc etc. Can't underestimate stupidness these days. Chat Icon

Message edited 10/25/2014 9:32:15 PM.

Posted 10/25/14 9:29 PM
 

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Re: woohoo! Christie and Cuomo - Mandatory Quarantine for High-Risk people traveling from Ebola Countries to NY/NJ!!!

Yet another false sense of security protocol IMO. It was enacted out of fear and lack of education. And because of the hastiness to get this off the ground it will be poorly executed. This is not a country ban and last I checked you do not need a passport to travel from state to state so someone can easily fly in to another state where there isn't a ban.
Please note that no one is this country has come down with Ebola from casual contact with an Ebola patient, not Duncan's family or anyone he interacted with before he fell ill or the nurses friends/families that took care of him have contracted it. It is only when this disease advances when it becomes highly, highly contagious hence why health care workers are contracting it.
If you fear Ebola and think this ban now makes you "safe" you are no better or worse off then you were before.

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Posted 10/25/14 9:44 PM
 
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