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Where's our property tax refund?

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Curmudgeon
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Where's our property tax refund?

I dutifully paid my Brookhaven property taxes at the beginning of the year. It included 12 months of school and library taxes. Schools and libraries have been closed for 4 months. No building services, busing suspended, sports curtailed, lunches (with the exception of takeout cold sandwiches) has been stopped, and only some online teaching who's effectiveness has yet to be determined. We pay among the highest taxes in the country and where did the money go? We should demand a refund or credit for one third of the tax year.

Posted 8/26/20 1:55 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Where's our property tax refund?

Seriously, get over it. Chat Icon

You're not getting any money back. Teachers and administrators still needed to be paid, they worked throughout all of this. Custodial staff has been cleaning, disinfecting and prepping the schools so that the kids can return in September. Monies that normally would've funded sports, after school clubs, etc were likely re-allocated to pay for additional technology for students and teachers, upgrades to ventilation in the buildings, PPE for students and staff and any other safety protocols that are now needed.

I am so tired of people whining about their taxes, about teachers, about schools and about the other 4,000 things that everyone feels wronged by. Good God, we we thrust into an epidemic of which we haven't seen in over 100 years. NOBODY was prepared for this, MOST everyone did the best they could and we're all just going to have suck a few things up and roll with it. Instead of b!tching, just continue to support your local schools, libraries, teachers and whoever else the best that you can.

Posted 8/27/20 1:15 PM
 

LittleDiva
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Re: Where's our property tax refund?

Posted by Hofstra26

Seriously, get over it. Chat Icon

You're not getting any money back. Teachers and administrators still needed to be paid, they worked throughout all of this. Custodial staff has been cleaning, disinfecting and prepping the schools so that the kids can return in September. Monies that normally would've funded sports, after school clubs, etc were likely re-allocated to pay for additional technology for students and teachers, upgrades to ventilation in the buildings, PPE for students and staff and any other safety protocols that are now needed.

I am so tired of people whining about their taxes, about teachers, about schools and about the other 4,000 things that everyone feels wronged by. Good God, we we thrust into an epidemic of which we haven't seen in over 100 years. NOBODY was prepared for this, MOST everyone did the best they could and we're all just going to have suck a few things up and roll with it. Instead of b!tching, just continue to support your local schools, libraries, teachers and whoever else the best that you can.



I totally agree with you on this one.

I’m curious to see how schools are going to stay within their budgets with all these guidelines.

Posted 8/27/20 6:27 PM
 

KarenK122
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Karen

Re: Where's our property tax refund?

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by Hofstra26

Seriously, get over it. Chat Icon

You're not getting any money back. Teachers and administrators still needed to be paid, they worked throughout all of this. Custodial staff has been cleaning, disinfecting and prepping the schools so that the kids can return in September. Monies that normally would've funded sports, after school clubs, etc were likely re-allocated to pay for additional technology for students and teachers, upgrades to ventilation in the buildings, PPE for students and staff and any other safety protocols that are now needed.

I am so tired of people whining about their taxes, about teachers, about schools and about the other 4,000 things that everyone feels wronged by. Good God, we we thrust into an epidemic of which we haven't seen in over 100 years. NOBODY was prepared for this, MOST everyone did the best they could and we're all just going to have suck a few things up and roll with it. Instead of b!tching, just continue to support your local schools, libraries, teachers and whoever else the best that you can.



I totally agree with you on this one.

I’m curious to see how schools are going to stay within their budgets with all these guidelines.



Totally agree with you. No need to even answer this person who has one post. It was only posted to cause conflict.

As far as the school budgets, many schools are dipping into their reserve funds. That is why they have them, for emergencies.

Posted 8/27/20 6:53 PM
 

Diane
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Re: Where's our property tax refund?

Unfortunately, our district will NOT dip into reserve funds, which I find crazy, because there is a lot in there. The district sent out an email urging parents to write letters to get our state aid (i guess it is being cut). We need to purchase more chromebooks for the students that have multiple kids in the district or to just even do the work remotely.

Posted 8/28/20 3:12 PM
 

LuckyStar
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Where's our property tax refund?

My district does not provide chrome books, they have cut all sports and extras. They haven’t figured out the schedule yet. They told working parents “too bad, these are your children” when someone inquired about after care. They can’t even provide their own cleaning supplies, we send those in. When faced with budget cuts they slashed half the kids who were registered for UPK (yesterday). Can you imagine planning for pre-k for your kid and being told “nevermind” a week before?

I pay over $20k in taxes for a 6,000 sq ft. property. Most other pay more. I’m not going to go screaming for my money back, but the district is a dumpster fire and I wouldn’t lose any sleep if these crap administrators suddenly found themselves without a job.

Posted 8/28/20 9:21 PM
 

PitterPatter11
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Re: Where's our property tax refund?

Posted by Diane

Unfortunately, our district will NOT dip into reserve funds, which I find crazy, because there is a lot in there. The district sent out an email urging parents to write letters to get our state aid (i guess it is being cut). We need to purchase more chromebooks for the students that have multiple kids in the district or to just even do the work remotely.



State aid has been cut by 20%. Districts are in a tough spot. The city districts near me are being forced to do 6-12 100% virtual as they don’t have the money for safety supplies.

Posted 8/29/20 7:42 PM
 

KarenK122
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Where's our property tax refund?

They do not know about State aid cuts yet. They probably won't know until mid year. Districts are planning for it but they have not heard anything definitive yet.

There are many districts (and good districts) on Long Island that are a financial mess. A few years back there was quite a few districts around where I live that were almost out of money. It is so important to have a BOE with some sort of financial background or the smarts to hire someone to oversee it. Every district should have a decent amount in reserves for exactly this reason.

Posted 8/29/20 9:45 PM
 

PitterPatter11
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Re: Where's our property tax refund?

Posted by KarenK122

They do not know about State aid cuts yet. They probably won't know until mid year. Districts are planning for it but they have not heard anything definitive yet.

There are many districts (and good districts) on Long Island that are a financial mess. A few years back there was quite a few districts around where I live that were almost out of money. It is so important to have a BOE with some sort of financial background or the smarts to hire someone to oversee it. Every district should have a decent amount in reserves for exactly this reason.



The payments to schools has already been reduced by 20% according to my home district. They have savings so programming for now is unaffected.

Every city school near me - Albany, Schenectady, Troy, Amsterdam - is losing 20-30 million dollars due to the cuts. They would need to have a ridiculous rainy day fund in order to fill that void. Schenectady City schools had already accounted for a 3 million dollar cut in their original spring budget.

Now, grades 6-12 are all virtual in the city schools because they do not have money for PPE and other safety protocols. These virtual classes will be filled to the brim since these districts are rescinding all their offers to all new hires and laying off existing staff. This will be a terrible situation for city and rural districts that rely heavily on state funding.

Posted 9/2/20 11:39 AM
 

PitterPatter11
Baby Boy is Here!

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Re: Where's our property tax refund?

Posted by Diane

Unfortunately, our district will NOT dip into reserve funds, which I find crazy, because there is a lot in there. The district sent out an email urging parents to write letters to get our state aid (i guess it is being cut). We need to purchase more chromebooks for the students that have multiple kids in the district or to just even do the work remotely.



Also - good luck getting chromebooks for your district. My district put in an order in the SPRING and they are backordered until Dec/Jan.

Posted 9/2/20 11:41 AM
 

ali120206
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Re: Where's our property tax refund?

Posted by PitterPatter11

Posted by Diane

Unfortunately, our district will NOT dip into reserve funds, which I find crazy, because there is a lot in there. The district sent out an email urging parents to write letters to get our state aid (i guess it is being cut). We need to purchase more chromebooks for the students that have multiple kids in the district or to just even do the work remotely.



Also - good luck getting chromebooks for your district. My district put in an order in the SPRING and they are backordered until Dec/Jan.



Yeah - our district ordered early too and have gotten a good amount but, not all. And no sort of carrying device...

My tax bill arrived today and I want to cry - it went up pretty substantially for my kids to go to school just 2 days a week.

Posted 9/2/20 5:45 PM
 

LIRascal
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Michelle

Where's our property tax refund?

It's funny how little people in general know about their school tax dollars. The budget that passed last year for 2019-2020 has been used. Just because school isn't physically in session, it doesn't mean they're not using the tax dollars. Contracts were paid and legal obligations were fulfilled. Then, covid hit. They had to purchase sanitizing equipment, supplies for the custodial staff to disinfect the buildings, PPE for essential workers, busing for the children who still attended daycare programs in-district, food programs that still operated, insurance coverage for the buildings and grounds.... unforseen costs OUTSIDE the original budget.
Then, the budget for 2020-2021 that was voted upon already started off with a cut of 20% from NYS and they had to purchase bananas amounts of PPE and other things like sneeze guards, sanitizing equipment and floor markers, not to mention hiring new teachers, monitors, substitutes etc.
No one saved money because schools were closed.

Message edited 9/7/2020 4:28:31 PM.

Posted 9/7/20 4:27 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Where's our property tax refund?

Posted by LIRascal

It's funny how little people in general know about their school tax dollars. The budget that passed last year for 2019-2020 has been used. Just because school isn't physically in session, it doesn't mean they're not using the tax dollars. Contracts were paid and legal obligations were fulfilled. Then, covid hit. They had to purchase sanitizing equipment, supplies for the custodial staff to disinfect the buildings, PPE for essential workers, busing for the children who still attended daycare programs in-district, food programs that still operated, insurance coverage for the buildings and grounds.... unforseen costs OUTSIDE the original budget.
Then, the budget for 2020-2021 that was voted upon already started off with a cut of 20% from NYS and they had to purchase bananas amounts of PPE and other things like sneeze guards, sanitizing equipment and floor markers, not to mention hiring new teachers, monitors, substitutes etc.
No one saved money because schools were closed.



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Posted 9/8/20 9:30 AM
 

ali120206
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Re: Where's our property tax refund?

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LIRascal

It's funny how little people in general know about their school tax dollars. The budget that passed last year for 2019-2020 has been used. Just because school isn't physically in session, it doesn't mean they're not using the tax dollars. Contracts were paid and legal obligations were fulfilled. Then, covid hit. They had to purchase sanitizing equipment, supplies for the custodial staff to disinfect the buildings, PPE for essential workers, busing for the children who still attended daycare programs in-district, food programs that still operated, insurance coverage for the buildings and grounds.... unforseen costs OUTSIDE the original budget.
Then, the budget for 2020-2021 that was voted upon already started off with a cut of 20% from NYS and they had to purchase bananas amounts of PPE and other things like sneeze guards, sanitizing equipment and floor markers, not to mention hiring new teachers, monitors, substitutes etc.
No one saved money because schools were closed.



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I know what the funds are used for and I know funds weren't saved (they were reallocated) but, it's hard to write out a huge check when your kids aren't at school more than half of the week and you had a bad experience in the spring.

The teaching aspect looks better this fall but I am not going to be able to oversee it so I'm now looking to send them to daycare fulltime 1-2x a week, DH will do the days he's home.

Posted 9/8/20 6:20 PM
 
 

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