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What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
I found this interesting.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/11/17/what-americans-thought-of-jewish-refugees-on-the-eve-of-world-war-ii/
The results of the poll illustrated above by the useful Twitter account @HistOpinion were published in the pages of Fortune magazine in July 1938. Fewer than 5 percent of Americans surveyed at the time believed that the United States should raise its immigration quotas or encourage political refugees fleeing fascist states in Europe — the vast majority of whom were Jewish — to voyage across the Atlantic. Two-thirds of the respondents agreed with the proposition that "we should try to keep them out."
To be sure, the United States was emerging from the Great Depression, hardly a climate in which ordinary folks would welcome immigrants and economic competition. The events of Kristallnacht — a wave of anti-Jewish pogroms in areas controlled by the Nazis — had yet to take place. And the poll's use of the term "political refugees" could have conjured in the minds of the American public images of communists, anarchists and other perceived ideological threats.
But look at the next chart, also tweeted by @HistOpinion. Two-thirds of Americans polled by Gallup’s American Institute of Public Opinion in January 1939 — well after the events of Kristallnacht — said they would not take in 10,000 German Jewish refugee children.
[A couple of caveats: Polling in this period, including Gallup surveys, was not as scientifically rigorous as it later became. Also, respondents may not necessarily have had a particular bias against Jewish refugees. A separate portion of Gallup respondents were asked a nearly identical question which did not describe refugees as Jewish. Support for accepting refugees was slightly lower than when they were described as mostly Jewish.]
As WorldViews detailed earlier this year, most Western countries regarded the plight of Jewish refugees with skepticism or unveiled bigotry (and sympathy followed only wider knowledge of the monstrous slaughters of the Holocaust):
No matter the alarming rhetoric of [Adolf] Hitler's fascist state — and the growing acts of violence against Jews and others — popular sentiment in Western Europe and the United States was largely indifferent to the plight of German Jews.
"Of all the groups in the 20th century," write the authors of the 1999 book "Refugees in an Age of Genocide," "refugees from Nazism are now widely and popularly perceived as 'genuine,' but at the time German, Austrian and Czechoslovakian Jews were treated with ambivalence and outright hostility as well as sympathy."
It's worth remembering this mood when thinking about the current moment, in which the United States is once more in the throes of a debate over letting in refugees. Ever since Friday's terror attacks in Paris, the Republicans, led by their presidential candidates, have sounded the alarm over the threat of jihadist infiltration from Syria — even though it now appears that every single identified assailant in the Paris siege was a European national.
The Republicans have signaled their intent to stop Syrian refugee arrivals, or at least accept only non-Muslim Syrians.
GOP presidential candidate Chris Christie of New Jersey was one of the many governors who said Monday that they would oppose settling Syrian refugees in their states; Christie insisted that he would not permit even a "3-year-old orphan's" entry.
Today's 3-year-old Syrian orphan, it seems, is 1939's German Jewish child.
Of course, there are huge historical and contextual differences between then and now. But, as Post columnist Dana Milbank notes, it is hard to ignore the echoes of the past when faced with the "xenophobic bidding war" of the present:
"This growing cry to turn away people fleeing for their lives brings to mind the SS St. Louis, the ship of Jewish refugees turned away from Florida in 1939," Milbank writes. "It’s perhaps the ugliest moment in a primary fight that has been sullied by bigotry from the start. It’s no exaggeration to call this un-American."
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"This growing cry to turn away people fleeing for their lives brings to mind the SS St. Louis, the ship of Jewish refugees turned away from Florida in 1939," Milbank writes. "It’s perhaps the ugliest moment in a primary fight that has been sullied by bigotry from the start. It’s no exaggeration to call this un-American."
This is what resounds with me the most. But what do you expect from people who won't even help their own? You damn sure better believe the don't want to help others.
Because 'Murica.
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What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
The difference now is, we are dealing with Terrorists who are out to kill thousands, millions, a whole country. We do not know if any of these Syrians were turned by ISIS. Now is not the time to put our country in this much jeopardy.
It's unfortunate for the kids, and for the adults that are good people, but for once we have to come first, our safety, our children, our lives!!
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The difference now is, we are dealing with Terrorists who are out to kill thousands, millions, a whole country. We do not know if any of these Syrians were turned by ISIS. Now is not the time to put our country in this much jeopardy.
It's unfortunate for the kids, and for the adults that are good people, but for once we have to come first, our safety, our children, our lives!!
This. I read that one of the terrorists in the attacks on Paris was posing as a Syrian refugee. ITA that it is unfortunate for those that are actually good people.
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
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The difference now is, we are dealing with Terrorists who are out to kill thousands, millions, a whole country. We do not know if any of these Syrians were turned by ISIS. Now is not the time to put our country in this much jeopardy.
It's unfortunate for the kids, and for the adults that are good people, but for once we have to come first, our safety, our children, our lives!!
This, a thousand times! I'm so sick of people stating those of us who don't want them here are against Muslims in general. To compare stating that people didn't want Jewish people here is a slap in the face. During WW2 if there was a chance hitler was infiltrating the U.S. With nazis to continue his disgusting "plan" then I could see the comparison, but that is not the case. I feel terrible for the Syrians who are caught in the middle of this, it's deplorable, and something needs to be done. However, bringing a ton of Syrians who haven't been vetted properly, who our own CIA says would be impossible to do, is a very bad idea. Our president took an oath of protecting us from both foreign and domestic terrorists, and I feel like he's bringing the fight to our country by doing this, and I don't agree with it. My kids, and the rest of US citizens deserve to come first for safety, without making this some disgusting excuse to say we don't want more Muslims, I don't want ISIS here, end of story.
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Because 'Murica.
I find this phrase so infantile and childish. It really takes away from your point.
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The difference now is, we are dealing with Terrorists who are out to kill thousands, millions, a whole country. We do not know if any of these Syrians were turned by ISIS. Now is not the time to put our country in this much jeopardy.
It's unfortunate for the kids, and for the adults that are good people, but for once we have to come first, our safety, our children, our lives!!
This, a thousand times! I'm so sick of people stating those of us who don't want them here are against Muslims in general. To compare stating that people didn't want Jewish people here is a slap in the face. During WW2 if there was a chance hitler was infiltrating the U.S. With nazis to continue his disgusting "plan" then I could see the comparison, but that is not the case. I feel terrible for the Syrians who are caught in the middle of this, it's deplorable, and something needs to be done. However, bringing a ton of Syrians who haven't been vetted properly, who our own CIA says would be impossible to do, is a very bad idea. Our president took an oath of protecting us from both foreign and domestic terrorists, and I feel like he's bringing the fight to our country by doing this, and I don't agree with it. My kids, and the rest of US citizens deserve to come first for safety, without making this some disgusting excuse to say we don't want more Muslims, I don't want ISIS here, end of story.
Comparing this to the Jewish refugees is apples and oranges and quite frankly, insulting.
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
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The difference now is, we are dealing with Terrorists who are out to kill thousands, millions, a whole country. We do not know if any of these Syrians were turned by ISIS. Now is not the time to put our country in this much jeopardy.
It's unfortunate for the kids, and for the adults that are good people, but for once we have to come first, our safety, our children, our lives!!
This, a thousand times! I'm so sick of people stating those of us who don't want them here are against Muslims in general. To compare stating that people didn't want Jewish people here is a slap in the face. During WW2 if there was a chance hitler was infiltrating the U.S. With nazis to continue his disgusting "plan" then I could see the comparison, but that is not the case. I feel terrible for the Syrians who are caught in the middle of this, it's deplorable, and something needs to be done. However, bringing a ton of Syrians who haven't been vetted properly, who our own CIA says would be impossible to do, is a very bad idea. Our president took an oath of protecting us from both foreign and domestic terrorists, and I feel like he's bringing the fight to our country by doing this, and I don't agree with it. My kids, and the rest of US citizens deserve to come first for safety, without making this some disgusting excuse to say we don't want more Muslims, I don't want ISIS here, end of story.
Comparing this to the Jewish refugees is apples and oranges and quite frankly, insulting.
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
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The difference now is, we are dealing with Terrorists who are out to kill thousands, millions, a whole country. We do not know if any of these Syrians were turned by ISIS. Now is not the time to put our country in this much jeopardy.
It's unfortunate for the kids, and for the adults that are good people, but for once we have to come first, our safety, our children, our lives!!
This, a thousand times! I'm so sick of people stating those of us who don't want them here are against Muslims in general. To compare stating that people didn't want Jewish people here is a slap in the face. During WW2 if there was a chance hitler was infiltrating the U.S. With nazis to continue his disgusting "plan" then I could see the comparison, but that is not the case. I feel terrible for the Syrians who are caught in the middle of this, it's deplorable, and something needs to be done. However, bringing a ton of Syrians who haven't been vetted properly, who our own CIA says would be impossible to do, is a very bad idea. Our president took an oath of protecting us from both foreign and domestic terrorists, and I feel like he's bringing the fight to our country by doing this, and I don't agree with it. My kids, and the rest of US citizens deserve to come first for safety, without making this some disgusting excuse to say we don't want more Muslims, I don't want ISIS here, end of story.
Comparing this to the Jewish refugees is apples and oranges and quite frankly, insulting.
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First off, I'm not saying anything that people are against Muslims if they don't want to let in Syrians. There are also Christian refugees (it doesn't matter what they are- they are humans).
By stopping refugees, ISIS (or Daesh Link ) gets what they want. It has been confirmed that the Syrian passport found at the attacks is questionable, most likely even false. An article I read mentioned an idea that it was placed there to promote fear, thereby keeping refugees in. The attackers were Belgian and French nationals.
Terrorists are going to get in regardless. They will get in legally. Screening procedures need to be very good, but you can't stop a whole group of people because of what has happened. People need to understand that refugees and terrorists are separate. The Paris attacks were not done by refugees.
God forbid that something horrible happened and we had to leave our country. But no one would help us because of the large amounts of mass shooters we have. We would pose a danger to their country. Then I guess we would be waiting to die. Just like the Syrian people are kind of doing.
I'm not saying let them all in. But we need to take more in. Frankly, I'm disappointed in the world's response.
This is a good opinion piece:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/refugees-paris-europe-enemy?CMP=fb_gu
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
Posted by NervousNell
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Posted by LotsaLuv
The difference now is, we are dealing with Terrorists who are out to kill thousands, millions, a whole country. We do not know if any of these Syrians were turned by ISIS. Now is not the time to put our country in this much jeopardy.
It's unfortunate for the kids, and for the adults that are good people, but for once we have to come first, our safety, our children, our lives!!
This, a thousand times! I'm so sick of people stating those of us who don't want them here are against Muslims in general. To compare stating that people didn't want Jewish people here is a slap in the face. During WW2 if there was a chance hitler was infiltrating the U.S. With nazis to continue his disgusting "plan" then I could see the comparison, but that is not the case. I feel terrible for the Syrians who are caught in the middle of this, it's deplorable, and something needs to be done. However, bringing a ton of Syrians who haven't been vetted properly, who our own CIA says would be impossible to do, is a very bad idea. Our president took an oath of protecting us from both foreign and domestic terrorists, and I feel like he's bringing the fight to our country by doing this, and I don't agree with it. My kids, and the rest of US citizens deserve to come first for safety, without making this some disgusting excuse to say we don't want more Muslims, I don't want ISIS here, end of story.
Comparing this to the Jewish refugees is apples and oranges and quite frankly, insulting.
I'm sorry, but how is it insulting? I think it's easy to say it's insulting because we all know the outcome of WW2. But in 1938, no one could have imagined the horrors that happened. If only we had a crystal ball...
I think the point the writer is making is that we shouldn't repeat history. We could have taken in more refugees before WW2. We could have done so much more. And it also goes with other genocides as well- Rwanda (big mistake by Clinton, IMO), Yugoslavian Republic, etc.
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
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First off, I'm not saying anything that people are against Muslims if they don't want to let in Syrians. There are also Christian refugees (it doesn't matter what they are- they are humans).
By stopping refugees, ISIS (or Daesh Link gets what they want. It has been confirmed that the Syrian passport found at the attacks is questionable, most likely even false. An article I read mentioned an idea that it was placed there to promote fear, thereby keeping refugees in. The attackers were Belgian and French nationals.
Terrorists are going to get in regardless. They will get in legally. Screening procedures need to be very good, but you can't stop a whole group of people because of what has happened. People need to understand that refugees and terrorists are separate. The Paris attacks were not done by refugees.
God forbid that something horrible happened and we had to leave our country. But no one would help us because of the large amounts of mass shooters we have. We would pose a danger to their country. Then I guess we would be waiting to die. Just like the Syrian people are kind of doing.
I'm not saying let them all in. But we need to take more in. Frankly, I'm disappointed in world's response.
This is a good opinion piece:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/refugees-paris-europe-enemy?CMP=fb_gu
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God forbid that something horrible happened and we had to leave our country. But no one would help us because of the large amounts of mass shooters we have. We would pose a danger to their country. Then I guess we would be waiting to die. Just like the Syrian people are kind of doing.
That is a good point. I admit I am fearful of the possibility of someone getting in. But there are many elderly, women and kids who likely do not pose a threat.
But the hypocrisy around this is mind boggling to me. Now all of a sudden people are yelling that we need to help homeless veterans and homeless kids. These are two groups which have been homeless since way before Friday and I never saw a peep in my Facebook feed about it, but now that we might let in Syrians, people give a shit. And 9/11 aside, way more people have been shot and killed in theaters, on college campuses and workplaces, than have been killed by terrorism on American soil. But any American crackpot can get a gun.
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The difference now is, we are dealing with Terrorists who are out to kill thousands, millions, a whole country. We do not know if any of these Syrians were turned by ISIS. Now is not the time to put our country in this much jeopardy.
It's unfortunate for the kids, and for the adults that are good people, but for once we have to come first, our safety, our children, our lives!!
This, a thousand times! I'm so sick of people stating those of us who don't want them here are against Muslims in general. To compare stating that people didn't want Jewish people here is a slap in the face. During WW2 if there was a chance hitler was infiltrating the U.S. With nazis to continue his disgusting "plan" then I could see the comparison, but that is not the case. I feel terrible for the Syrians who are caught in the middle of this, it's deplorable, and something needs to be done. However, bringing a ton of Syrians who haven't been vetted properly, who our own CIA says would be impossible to do, is a very bad idea. Our president took an oath of protecting us from both foreign and domestic terrorists, and I feel like he's bringing the fight to our country by doing this, and I don't agree with it. My kids, and the rest of US citizens deserve to come first for safety, without making this some disgusting excuse to say we don't want more Muslims, I don't want ISIS here, end of story.
This. Thank you!!!!
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God forbid that something horrible happened and we had to leave our country. But no one would help us because of the large amounts of mass shooters we have. We would pose a danger to their country. Then I guess we would be waiting to die. Just like the Syrian people are kind of doing.
That is a good point. I admit I am fearful of the possibility of someone getting in. But there are many elderly, women and kids who likely do not pose a threat.
But the hypocrisy around this is mind boggling to me. Now all of a sudden people are yelling that we need to help homeless veterans and homeless kids. These are two groups which have been homeless since way before Friday and I never saw a peep in my Facebook feed about it, but now that we might let in Syrians, people give a shit. And 9/11 aside, way more people have been shot and killed in theaters, on college campuses and workplaces, than have been killed by terrorism on American soil. But any American crackpot can get a gun.
You know, I'm fearful, too. I'm in the middle of it (Munich). The Austrian border is an hour and a half away. To say that terrorism hasn't crossed my mind would be a lie. I'm afraid of terrorism in general, but if it's going to happen it will. I also have done critical thinking to realize that refugees =/= terrorists.
ETA: I also find that the people who are saying help the homeless are the same ones saying no more welfare. It's boggling to me, too.
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
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First off, I'm not saying anything that people are against Muslims if they don't want to let in Syrians. There are also Christian refugees (it doesn't matter what they are- they are humans).
By stopping refugees, ISIS (or Daesh Link ) gets what they want. It has been confirmed that the Syrian passport found at the attacks is questionable, most likely even false. An article I read mentioned an idea that it was placed there to promote fear, thereby keeping refugees in. The attackers were Belgian and French nationals.
Terrorists are going to get in regardless. They will get in legally. Screening procedures need to be very good, but you can't stop a whole group of people because of what has happened. People need to understand that refugees and terrorists are separate. The Paris attacks were not done by refugees.
God forbid that something horrible happened and we had to leave our country. But no one would help us because of the large amounts of mass shooters we have. We would pose a danger to their country. Then I guess we would be waiting to die. Just like the Syrian people are kind of doing.
I'm not saying let them all in. But we need to take more in. Frankly, I'm disappointed in the world's response.
This is a good opinion piece:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/refugees-paris-europe-enemy?CMP=fb_gu
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
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God forbid that something horrible happened and we had to leave our country. But no one would help us because of the large amounts of mass shooters we have. We would pose a danger to their country. Then I guess we would be waiting to die. Just like the Syrian people are kind of doing.
That is a good point. I admit I am fearful of the possibility of someone getting in. But there are many elderly, women and kids who likely do not pose a threat.
But the hypocrisy around this is mind boggling to me. Now all of a sudden people are yelling that we need to help homeless veterans and homeless kids. These are two groups which have been homeless since way before Friday and I never saw a peep in my Facebook feed about it, but now that we might let in Syrians, people give a shit. And 9/11 aside, way more people have been shot and killed in theaters, on college campuses and workplaces, than have been killed by terrorism on American soil. But any American crackpot can get a gun.
You know, I'm fearful, too. I'm in the middle of it (Munich). The Austrian border is an hour and a half away. To say that terrorism hasn't crossed my mind would be a lie. I'm afraid of terrorism in general, but if it's going to happen it will. I also have done critical thinking to realize that refugees =/= terrorists.
ETA: I also find that the people who are saying help the homeless are the same ones saying no more welfare. It's boggling to me, too.
I completely agree with you.
I don't think any level-headed person is saying, "Yes, let's invite all the terrorists!"
But at the same time, there has to be action where action is needed - we're willing to go to war on lies, but when something is staring us in the face like this, we turn our backs. Everyone who thinks we need to take care of our own before we take care others, please let me understand how because right now we definitely don't. We say a lot of words that we think mean something and the reality is opposite.
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
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First off, I'm not saying anything that people are against Muslims if they don't want to let in Syrians. There are also Christian refugees (it doesn't matter what they are- they are humans).
By stopping refugees, ISIS (or Daesh Link ) gets what they want. It has been confirmed that the Syrian passport found at the attacks is questionable, most likely even false. An article I read mentioned an idea that it was placed there to promote fear, thereby keeping refugees in. The attackers were Belgian and French nationals.
Terrorists are going to get in regardless. They will get in legally. Screening procedures need to be very good, but you can't stop a whole group of people because of what has happened. People need to understand that refugees and terrorists are separate. The Paris attacks were not done by refugees.
God forbid that something horrible happened and we had to leave our country. But no one would help us because of the large amounts of mass shooters we have. We would pose a danger to their country. Then I guess we would be waiting to die. Just like the Syrian people are kind of doing.
I'm not saying let them all in. But we need to take more in. Frankly, I'm disappointed in the world's response.
This is a good opinion piece:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/refugees-paris-europe-enemy?CMP=fb_gu
I was responding to the article and from articles I've read on FB stating that people not wanting them all here are against Muslims, not saying you personally were saying that.
I'm also not saying to never let them in, but I don't trust that our president actually knows what he's doing when it comes to vetting and upping the numbers at the last minute. When you start changing plans on the fly, that is when mistakes happen. I also would never say a refugee is a terrorist, but that doesn't mean a terrorist isn't amongst the real refugees.
I will also say that I think it's a disgrace we have vets sleeping on sidewalks and not knowing where their next meal is coming from, but will give refugees free housing, meals etc. I'm not saying refugees are undeserving, but I believe our vets should come first.
I'm also OOS in PA, and have quite a few Syrian refugees about 15 mins from me. Myself included with my church has helped in different ways. It's not that I don't have a heart for them, I really do, but large numbers overwhelm me with feeling safe when I have 3 children and 1 on the way.
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
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The difference now is, we are dealing with Terrorists who are out to kill thousands, millions, a whole country. We do not know if any of these Syrians were turned by ISIS. Now is not the time to put our country in this much jeopardy.
It's unfortunate for the kids, and for the adults that are good people, but for once we have to come first, our safety, our children, our lives!!
This, a thousand times! I'm so sick of people stating those of us who don't want them here are against Muslims in general. To compare stating that people didn't want Jewish people here is a slap in the face. During WW2 if there was a chance hitler was infiltrating the U.S. With nazis to continue his disgusting "plan" then I could see the comparison, but that is not the case. I feel terrible for the Syrians who are caught in the middle of this, it's deplorable, and something needs to be done. However, bringing a ton of Syrians who haven't been vetted properly, who our own CIA says would be impossible to do, is a very bad idea. Our president took an oath of protecting us from both foreign and domestic terrorists, and I feel like he's bringing the fight to our country by doing this, and I don't agree with it. My kids, and the rest of US citizens deserve to come first for safety, without making this some disgusting excuse to say we don't want more Muslims, I don't want ISIS here, end of story.
Comparing this to the Jewish refugees is apples and oranges and quite frankly, insulting.
Very much agree
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
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Because 'Murica.
I find this phrase so infantile and childish. It really takes away from your point.
Also dislike this phrase
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Posted by klingklang77
First off, I'm not saying anything that people are against Muslims if they don't want to let in Syrians. There are also Christian refugees (it doesn't matter what they are- they are humans).
By stopping refugees, ISIS (or Daesh Link ) gets what they want. It has been confirmed that the Syrian passport found at the attacks is questionable, most likely even false. An article I read mentioned an idea that it was placed there to promote fear, thereby keeping refugees in. The attackers were Belgian and French nationals.
Terrorists are going to get in regardless. They will get in legally. Screening procedures need to be very good, but you can't stop a whole group of people because of what has happened. People need to understand that refugees and terrorists are separate. The Paris attacks were not done by refugees.
God forbid that something horrible happened and we had to leave our country. But no one would help us because of the large amounts of mass shooters we have. We would pose a danger to their country. Then I guess we would be waiting to die. Just like the Syrian people are kind of doing.
I'm not saying let them all in. But we need to take more in. Frankly, I'm disappointed in the world's response.
This is a good opinion piece:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/refugees-paris-europe-enemy?CMP=fb_gu
I will also say that I think it's a disgrace we have vets sleeping on sidewalks and not knowing where their next meal is coming from, but will give refugees free housing, meals etc. I'm not saying refugees are undeserving, but I believe our vets should come first.
Republicans bring us into war. War keeps them rich. They depend on distracting the American public with lies and concocted storylines to support their wars. They feed off your jingoism.
When it's all over, they leave you in the dust.
When liberals want to pick up the pieces, Republicans block their every effort.
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| Posted 11/18/15 10:25 AM |
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Kitten1929
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
Posted by Millie3
Posted by McSullivan
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Because 'Murica.
I find this phrase so infantile and childish. It really takes away from your point.
Also dislike this phrase
You can dislike the phrase but the sentiment is the same...you have people blindly following people like Trump whose only intent is to instill xenophobia, islamaphobia, and a hatred for others all in the name of the good old USA.
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| Posted 11/18/15 10:27 AM |
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Millie3
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
I was skipping through channels and stopped at CNN. I don't know who it was but a political figure from another state (a state that said no to any refugees)!was commenting. He said, We are at war. We need to do what it takes to keep the American people safe. I agree with him.
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| Posted 11/18/15 10:29 AM |
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Millie3
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
Posted by Kitten1929
Posted by Millie3
Posted by McSullivan
Posted by Kitten1929
Because 'Murica.
I find this phrase so infantile and childish. It really takes away from your point.
Also dislike this phrase
You can dislike the phrase but the sentiment is the same...you have people blindly following people like Trump whose only intent is to instill xenophobia, islamaphobia, and a hatred for others all in the name of the good old USA.
It's not hatred for most, it's self preservation. I find it interesting that NY has the biggest risk (we have been hit by terrorism several times over) , and we are the most welcoming. It's like blind acceptance .
My own experience was watching 25 year olds jumping out of the twin towers to their demise. I dread what will happen to my sons (along with the rest of us) if people do not wake up open up their eyes. If someone's feelings get hurt in the process, I'm sorry but we can't be the world's savior right now.
Message edited 11/18/2015 10:35:25 AM.
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| Posted 11/18/15 10:34 AM |
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mommy2B3
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Re: What Americans thought of Jewish Refugees before WW2
Posted by Kitten1929
Posted by mommy2B3
Posted by klingklang77
First off, I'm not saying anything that people are against Muslims if they don't want to let in Syrians. There are also Christian refugees (it doesn't matter what they are- they are humans).
By stopping refugees, ISIS (or Daesh Link ) gets what they want. It has been confirmed that the Syrian passport found at the attacks is questionable, most likely even false. An article I read mentioned an idea that it was placed there to promote fear, thereby keeping refugees in. The attackers were Belgian and French nationals.
Terrorists are going to get in regardless. They will get in legally. Screening procedures need to be very good, but you can't stop a whole group of people because of what has happened. People need to understand that refugees and terrorists are separate. The Paris attacks were not done by refugees.
God forbid that something horrible happened and we had to leave our country. But no one would help us because of the large amounts of mass shooters we have. We would pose a danger to their country. Then I guess we would be waiting to die. Just like the Syrian people are kind of doing.
I'm not saying let them all in. But we need to take more in. Frankly, I'm disappointed in the world's response.
This is a good opinion piece:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/refugees-paris-europe-enemy?CMP=fb_gu
I will also say that I think it's a disgrace we have vets sleeping on sidewalks and not knowing where their next meal is coming from, but will give refugees free housing, meals etc. I'm not saying refugees are undeserving, but I believe our vets should come first.
Republicans bring us into war. War keeps them rich. They depend on distracting the American public with lies and concocted storylines to support their wars. They feed off your jingoism.
When it's all over, they leave you in the dust.
When liberals want to pick up the pieces, Republicans block their every effort.
Do you know vets personally? I can tell you that they aren't in your thinking at all. Majority of vets are republicans and it's bc the republicans support our troops and don't dismantle our armed forces and take away funding.
Let me know what democrat picked up our vets pieces? Clinton? Obama? I'll wait, ask any vet, they despise working for a so called commander and chief like Obama pretends he is.
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| Posted 11/18/15 10:34 AM |
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