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Kate
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Vaccine Question
I’ve heard that even if you get the Covid vaccine, you can still get Covid and you can still spread Covid. So the only benefit is that your symptoms might not be as bad as they would had you not received the vaccine.
Has anyone else heard this? If this is true, I don’t see why I would need to get it. I know many people who have had Covid and their symptoms were all mild. I have no reason to believe it would be different for me. (Under 45, no underlying conditions)
I guess I just don’t understand how everyone getting the vaccine is going to stop the spread, when they are telling you that even after you get it, you can still spread it. ???
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Diane
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Re: Vaccine Question
I was wondering the same thing...is this vaccine like getting the flu vaccine? Now with this new strain out, who is to say it might not mutate differently?
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| Posted 1/9/21 10:40 PM |
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Same with the flu shot which is a reason why I don’t get that either.
No one really knows about it yet and to me that is scarier then getting the virus as I am not older, overweight, a smoker, or have underlying issues.
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Sparrow
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Re: Vaccine Question
I believe they aren't really sure on all of this. You *might* still be able to spread it but I'm hoping maybe you're much less likely to? There is so much they're still learning about the vaccine.
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| Posted 1/9/21 10:41 PM |
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I was wondering the same thing...is this vaccine like getting the flu vaccine? Now with this new strain out, who is to say it might not mutate differently?
Exactly. No one really knows. That is why so many want to wait and not be a guinea pig.
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Mill188
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Re: Vaccine Question
These are some of the many questions I have as well. As of this moment I am leaning towards not taking the vaccine.
I feel like my decision changes as often as the CDC changes recommendations though so who knows
I’m just really confused and get more confused every day
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Naturalmama
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Same with the flu shot which is a reason why I don’t get that either.
No one really knows about it yet and to me that is scarier then getting the virus as I am not older, overweight, a smoker, or have underlying issues.
Anyone who chooses not to get the vaccine, that is your choice and I respect most reasons on why one wouldn't take it. This comment however, screams selfishness. How wonderful for you that you are so healthy and young. This isn't about YOU. This is about protecting others. Your healthy self could give it to someone who dies.
Also, while it is preferred for a vaccine to stop transmission, stopping symptomatic infection can still help get us back to some normalcy. Because if people do not develop severe illness, they will not be going into hospitals and overwhelming the hospital system. So when your selfish ass needs a ventilator and an ICU bed, one will be available for you.
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| Posted 1/9/21 11:04 PM |
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Same with the flu shot which is a reason why I don’t get that either.
No one really knows about it yet and to me that is scarier then getting the virus as I am not older, overweight, a smoker, or have underlying issues.
Anyone who chooses not to get the vaccine, that is your choice and I respect most reasons on why one wouldn't take it. This comment however, screams selfishness. How wonderful for you that you are so healthy and young. This isn't about YOU. This is about protecting others. Your healthy self could give it to someone who dies.
Also, while it is preferred for a vaccine to stop transmission, stopping symptomatic infection can still help get us back to some normalcy. Because if people do not develop severe illness, they will not be going into hospitals and overwhelming the hospital system. So when your selfish ass needs a ventilator and an ICU bed, one will be available for you.
So I am selfish for also not taking the flu shot? The flu which can also get someone else sick?
I don’t think it is fair to tell everyone they are selfish for not taking something that has not been around long and they would like to see how it works for others.
I also don’t want to put my life in jeopardy for a really unknown vaccine. As you can see from these posts, I am not the only one.
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Same with the flu shot which is a reason why I don’t get that either.
No one really knows about it yet and to me that is scarier then getting the virus as I am not older, overweight, a smoker, or have underlying issues.
Anyone who chooses not to get the vaccine, that is your choice and I respect most reasons on why one wouldn't take it. This comment however, screams selfishness. How wonderful for you that you are so healthy and young. This isn't about YOU. This is about protecting others. Your healthy self could give it to someone who dies.
Also, while it is preferred for a vaccine to stop transmission, stopping symptomatic infection can still help get us back to some normalcy. Because if people do not develop severe illness, they will not be going into hospitals and overwhelming the hospital system. So when your selfish ass needs a ventilator and an ICU bed, one will be available for you.
Yes. Let me inject my healthy self with an unknown vaccine that still might allow me to spread this virus to others.
I’m not ready until I’m told that I will not spread it once I get the vaccine. The more and more I read about it the more I’m leaning towards no.
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Mill188
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Same with the flu shot which is a reason why I don’t get that either.
No one really knows about it yet and to me that is scarier then getting the virus as I am not older, overweight, a smoker, or have underlying issues.
Anyone who chooses not to get the vaccine, that is your choice and I respect most reasons on why one wouldn't take it. This comment however, screams selfishness. How wonderful for you that you are so healthy and young. This isn't about YOU. This is about protecting others. Your healthy self could give it to someone who dies.
Also, while it is preferred for a vaccine to stop transmission, stopping symptomatic infection can still help get us back to some normalcy. Because if people do not develop severe illness, they will not be going into hospitals and overwhelming the hospital system. So when your selfish ass needs a ventilator and an ICU bed, one will be available for you.
But no one knows if by taking this vaccine you are protecting anyone but yourself. That's my takeaway. If I get the shot, there's no proof that I am not going to be asymptomatic and give the virus to my immunocompromised elderly aunt. I'm not protecting anyone but myself and to assume otherwise WOULD BE selfish on my part.
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Diane
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Same with the flu shot which is a reason why I don’t get that either.
No one really knows about it yet and to me that is scarier then getting the virus as I am not older, overweight, a smoker, or have underlying issues.
Anyone who chooses not to get the vaccine, that is your choice and I respect most reasons on why one wouldn't take it. This comment however, screams selfishness. How wonderful for you that you are so healthy and young. This isn't about YOU. This is about protecting others. Your healthy self could give it to someone who dies.
Also, while it is preferred for a vaccine to stop transmission, stopping symptomatic infection can still help get us back to some normalcy. Because if people do not develop severe illness, they will not be going into hospitals and overwhelming the hospital system. So when your selfish ass needs a ventilator and an ICU bed, one will be available for you.
Yes. Let me inject my healthy self with an unknown vaccine that still might allow me to spread this virus to others.
I’m not ready until I’m told that I will not spread it once I get the vaccine. The more and more I read about it the more I’m leaning towards no.
I agree, because the CDC and Dr. Facuci changes his mind and recommendations all the time, that I do not know what to believe.
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Vaccine Question
It's possible. I got the vaccine the other day (1st dose) and it does warn that it is 95% effective. So there is still a chance and yes we should continue to take precautions to protects ourselves and those around us
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Naturalmama
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by Mill188
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Same with the flu shot which is a reason why I don’t get that either.
No one really knows about it yet and to me that is scarier then getting the virus as I am not older, overweight, a smoker, or have underlying issues.
Anyone who chooses not to get the vaccine, that is your choice and I respect most reasons on why one wouldn't take it. This comment however, screams selfishness. How wonderful for you that you are so healthy and young. This isn't about YOU. This is about protecting others. Your healthy self could give it to someone who dies.
Also, while it is preferred for a vaccine to stop transmission, stopping symptomatic infection can still help get us back to some normalcy. Because if people do not develop severe illness, they will not be going into hospitals and overwhelming the hospital system. So when your selfish ass needs a ventilator and an ICU bed, one will be available for you.
But no one knows if by taking this vaccine you are protecting anyone but yourself. That's my takeaway. If I get the shot, there's no proof that I am not going to be asymptomatic and give the virus to my immunocompromised elderly aunt. I'm not protecting anyone but myself and to assume otherwise WOULD BE selfish on my part.
If enough people get vaccinated, most of the transmission would be asymptomatic. Which eliminates the problem of overwhelming the hospitals.
Quite frankly, I was really only speaking to VB when I brought up selfishness. She openly says she attends get togethers, goes to restaurants, even went to a NYE party. But she also won't get the vaccine. Sorry, all of that combined suggests she does not take this virus seriously, and probably never will.
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Diane
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Re: Vaccine Question
Just saw this
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-miami-doctor-vaccine-death-20210107-afzysvqqjbgwnetcy5v6ec62py-story.html?fbclid=IwAR3y_4F-SdHvo3Ju373JPaZsvGF5VxZh2LoTMxvSokTqJJ_erxmkkOA2UkY
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Mill188
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Re: Vaccine Question
I agree about the hospitals not being overwhelmed, but I fear the vaccine may create a false sense of security for many people - thinking they can forego all of the precautions we are currently utilizing.
I have known many people who have contracted COVID. Some cases were mild, some not, and 2 people unfortunately passed away.
It's not about denying the seriousness of the virus for me. It's about questioning the effectiveness and safety of the vaccine.
It's truly a exercise in risk assessment, and one I think about about every single day.
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Naturalmama
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Posted by Diane
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-miami-doctor-vaccine-death-20210107-afzysvqqjbgwnetcy5v6ec62py-story.html?fbclid=IwAR3y_4F-SdHvo3Ju373JPaZsvGF5VxZh2LoTMxvSokTqJJ_erxmkkOA2UkY
I saw that. So sad, I am heartbroken for his wife and kids. This does not worry me though, as 1- they are not sure the vaccine caused his platelet condition, and 2- 22 million people worldwide have been vaccinated and nobody else has died. All vaccines carry risks. Children have died from the MMR. Didn't stop me from making sure my children got it.
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| Posted 1/9/21 11:50 PM |
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Naturalmama
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by Mill188
I agree about the hospitals not being overwhelmed, but I fear the vaccine may create a false sense of security for many people - thinking they can forego all of the precautions we are currently utilizing.
I have known many people who have contracted COVID. Some cases were mild, some not, and 2 people unfortunately passed away.
It's not about denying the seriousness of the virus for me. It's about questioning the effectiveness and safety of the vaccine.
It's truly a exercise in risk assessment, and one I think about about every single day.
I understand. I also agree about people not following proper precautions. I plan to continue mask wearing and social distancing for some time.
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They are unsure if it can still be spread.
The benefit of getting the vaccine though is that there is 95% efficacy so you only have a 5% chance of getting covid after the two doses.
My husband got the vaccine and he had flu like side effects. I’ve heard that those who have had covid have felt worse than those who hadnt with the first dose so we think he may have had a mild case at some point (he’s essential so he’s exposed pretty much every time he goes to work).
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Until they know for a fact that it can't be spread and there are no long term effects from the vaccine I will not be taking it.
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by Kate
I’ve heard that even if you get the Covid vaccine, you can still get Covid and you can still spread Covid. So the only benefit is that your symptoms might not be as bad as they would had you not received the vaccine.
This initial trials were done to only test people who displayed symptoms. Therefore, people only went to the doctor to get tested for Covid if they were displaying symptoms. Because of this, they can not rule out the fact that people in the vaccine arm could have had Covid and been asymptomatic. They are currently collecting more data to determine if people in the vaccine arm did get asymptomatic Covid.
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Why would you get the vaccine even if it did not eliminate your risk of getting Covid?
Simply put, if you are asymptomatic, you are not a burden on the healthcare system. You will not require critical care and overwhelm the hospital system.
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by Kate
I’ve heard that even if you get the Covid vaccine, you can still get Covid and you can still spread Covid. So the only benefit is that your symptoms might not be as bad as they would had you not received the vaccine.
This initial trials were done to only test people who displayed symptoms. Therefore, people only went to the doctor to get tested for Covid if they were displaying symptoms. Because of this, they can not rule out the fact that people in the vaccine arm could have had Covid and been asymptomatic. They are currently collecting more data to determine if people in the vaccine arm did get asymptomatic Covid.
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Why would you get the vaccine even if it did not eliminate your risk of getting Covid?
Simply put, if you are asymptomatic, you are not a burden on the healthcare system. You will not require critical care and overwhelm the hospital system.
But you become asymptomatic and still pass it on to however number of other people who may or may not become seriously ill. I am still not seeing the point
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Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Mill188
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Same with the flu shot which is a reason why I don’t get that either.
No one really knows about it yet and to me that is scarier then getting the virus as I am not older, overweight, a smoker, or have underlying issues.
Anyone who chooses not to get the vaccine, that is your choice and I respect most reasons on why one wouldn't take it. This comment however, screams selfishness. How wonderful for you that you are so healthy and young. This isn't about YOU. This is about protecting others. Your healthy self could give it to someone who dies.
Also, while it is preferred for a vaccine to stop transmission, stopping symptomatic infection can still help get us back to some normalcy. Because if people do not develop severe illness, they will not be going into hospitals and overwhelming the hospital system. So when your selfish ass needs a ventilator and an ICU bed, one will be available for you.
But no one knows if by taking this vaccine you are protecting anyone but yourself. That's my takeaway. If I get the shot, there's no proof that I am not going to be asymptomatic and give the virus to my immunocompromised elderly aunt. I'm not protecting anyone but myself and to assume otherwise WOULD BE selfish on my part.
If enough people get vaccinated, most of the transmission would be asymptomatic. Which eliminates the problem of overwhelming the hospitals.
Quite frankly, I was really only speaking to VB when I brought up selfishness. She openly says she attends get togethers, goes to restaurants, even went to a NYE party. But she also won't get the vaccine. Sorry, all of that combined suggests she does not take this virus seriously, and probably never will.
Why I am being separated out from everyone else? Yes I have and no problems since May. Stop coming at me when everyone else is saying the same thing and not one response to them. Anyone can see people are just attacking me and no one else saying the same thing.
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PitterPatter11
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by Kate
I’ve heard that even if you get the Covid vaccine, you can still get Covid and you can still spread Covid. So the only benefit is that your symptoms might not be as bad as they would had you not received the vaccine.
This initial trials were done to only test people who displayed symptoms. Therefore, people only went to the doctor to get tested for Covid if they were displaying symptoms. Because of this, they can not rule out the fact that people in the vaccine arm could have had Covid and been asymptomatic. They are currently collecting more data to determine if people in the vaccine arm did get asymptomatic Covid.
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Why would you get the vaccine even if it did not eliminate your risk of getting Covid?
Simply put, if you are asymptomatic, you are not a burden on the healthcare system. You will not require critical care and overwhelm the hospital system.
But you become asymptomatic and still pass it on to however number of other people who may or may not become seriously ill. I am still not seeing the point
You wear a mask until more people are vaccinated.
Plus the preliminary data from Moderna is pointing in the direction that the people in the vaccine arm are not asymptomatic.
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by Kate
I’ve heard that even if you get the Covid vaccine, you can still get Covid and you can still spread Covid. So the only benefit is that your symptoms might not be as bad as they would had you not received the vaccine.
This initial trials were done to only test people who displayed symptoms. Therefore, people only went to the doctor to get tested for Covid if they were displaying symptoms. Because of this, they can not rule out the fact that people in the vaccine arm could have had Covid and been asymptomatic. They are currently collecting more data to determine if people in the vaccine arm did get asymptomatic Covid.
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Why would you get the vaccine even if it did not eliminate your risk of getting Covid?
Simply put, if you are asymptomatic, you are not a burden on the healthcare system. You will not require critical care and overwhelm the hospital system.
But you become asymptomatic and still pass it on to however number of other people who may or may not become seriously ill. I am still not seeing the point
You wear a mask until more people are vaccinated.
Plus the preliminary data from Moderna is pointing in the direction that the people in the vaccine arm are not asymptomatic.
Which means what?
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Naturalmama
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Re: Vaccine Question
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by Kate
I’ve heard that even if you get the Covid vaccine, you can still get Covid and you can still spread Covid. So the only benefit is that your symptoms might not be as bad as they would had you not received the vaccine.
This initial trials were done to only test people who displayed symptoms. Therefore, people only went to the doctor to get tested for Covid if they were displaying symptoms. Because of this, they can not rule out the fact that people in the vaccine arm could have had Covid and been asymptomatic. They are currently collecting more data to determine if people in the vaccine arm did get asymptomatic Covid.
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Why would you get the vaccine even if it did not eliminate your risk of getting Covid?
Simply put, if you are asymptomatic, you are not a burden on the healthcare system. You will not require critical care and overwhelm the hospital system.
But you become asymptomatic and still pass it on to however number of other people who may or may not become seriously ill. I am still not seeing the point
You wear a mask until more people are vaccinated.
Plus the preliminary data from Moderna is pointing in the direction that the people in the vaccine arm are not asymptomatic.
Which means what?
I believe she means that people who received the Moderna vaccine during the clinical trials were most likely free of the virus, not asymptomatic carriers.
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