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These are awful and I can't believe kids would actually think of these things let alone do them. The only one that isn't that bad is "ditch day".



I don't think they are much different than 20 or 30 years ago honestly. Not condoning any of them but just saying these kids didn't make up this stuff. It has been around forever.

There were kids in high school that would go around pulling the front of girls hair. It was stupid and immature and that was many moons ago. Now they just have cameras and video to catch every second of these stupid things.



Idk where you went to HS but in the 90s we were certainly not jabbing breasts or exposing ourselves to other students. Maybe we cut school after prom or TP’d the school before homecoming.

Who is raising these animals?? These pranks should not be normalized because people think “everyone did it”.



I was told the senior scavenger hunt 30 plus years ago was pretty bad when I once mentioned it as I was not involved in that type of stuff. These were from parents of teens today.
Back then there was no proof like there is today so kids got away with a lot more.

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Also if you think these are bad, you haven’t seen a senior scavenger hunt list. Some of it is just disgusting. I am sure it has always been like this, maybe just gets a little worse through the years but kids have always done pranks and not sure why people are shocked now.



Wide-spread slapping a teacher in the face isn't a prank.



Yes, exactly. And forcing a kiss on your friend’s girlfriend, jabbing a breast, and exposing your private parts is sexual assault. We know better now. Do better.

Posted 10/4/21 9:12 PM
 

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Also if you think these are bad, you haven’t seen a senior scavenger hunt list. Some of it is just disgusting. I am sure it has always been like this, maybe just gets a little worse through the years but kids have always done pranks and not sure why people are shocked now.



Wide-spread slapping a teacher in the face isn't a prank.



Yes, exactly. And forcing a kiss on your friend’s girlfriend, jabbing a breast, and exposing your private parts is sexual assault. We know better now. Do better.




The scavenger hunt list was pretty disgusting and I couldn’t believe that kids would do this stuff, and, for nothing.

Posted 10/4/21 10:03 PM
 

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Also if you think these are bad, you haven’t seen a senior scavenger hunt list. Some of it is just disgusting. I am sure it has always been like this, maybe just gets a little worse through the years but kids have always done pranks and not sure why people are shocked now.



Wide-spread slapping a teacher in the face isn't a prank.



Yes, exactly. And forcing a kiss on your friend’s girlfriend, jabbing a breast, and exposing your private parts is sexual assault. We know better now. Do better.




The scavenger hunt list was pretty disgusting and I couldn’t believe that kids would do this stuff, and, for nothing.



What’s your point? That was 20-30 years ago.

Posted 10/5/21 5:01 AM
 

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Posted by windyweather21

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Posted by Funkybutt

Posted by windyweather21

Also if you think these are bad, you haven’t seen a senior scavenger hunt list. Some of it is just disgusting. I am sure it has always been like this, maybe just gets a little worse through the years but kids have always done pranks and not sure why people are shocked now.



Wide-spread slapping a teacher in the face isn't a prank.



Yes, exactly. And forcing a kiss on your friend’s girlfriend, jabbing a breast, and exposing your private parts is sexual assault. We know better now. Do better.




The scavenger hunt list was pretty disgusting and I couldn’t believe that kids would do this stuff, and, for nothing.



What’s your point? That was 20-30 years ago.



Like I said before I didn’t see those lists 30 years ago, these are ones in the last few years.

Posted 10/5/21 7:17 AM
 

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I only heard about the first one. Apparently, some kids did vandalize the bathroom in the middle school and high school. It’s really horrible! I hope it doesn’t continue!





same here. We had 5 kids suspended over the vandalism in the bathrooms....kidsChat Icon

Posted 10/5/21 7:22 AM
 

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I only heard about the first one. Apparently, some kids did vandalize the bathroom in the middle school and high school. It’s really horrible! I hope it doesn’t continue!





same here. We had 5 kids suspended over the vandalism in the bathrooms....kidsChat Icon



They want to be included with the crowd as it makes them feel popular. Sad.

Posted 10/5/21 7:27 AM
 

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Yeah kids who are monsters have parents who are monsters.



You must have young kids. Not all kids turn into their parents good or bad.




I feel confident in my statement on this matter.

I’ve seen board of ed meetings and the parents who speak up. Their kids are little entitled horrors the majority of the time. Teachers who are in the battlefields with these kids and dealing with their parents would agree.



I totally agree with you on this. I volunteer a ton at my kid’s school events so I know the students well.

I’m very very rarely surprised when I meet the parents of the kids who are constantly a problem. And the lovely kids usually have lovely parents.

Posted 10/5/21 10:01 AM
 

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Yeah kids who are monsters have parents who are monsters.



You must have young kids. Not all kids turn into their parents good or bad.




I feel confident in my statement on this matter.

I’ve seen board of ed meetings and the parents who speak up. Their kids are little entitled horrors the majority of the time. Teachers who are in the battlefields with these kids and dealing with their parents would agree.



I totally agree with you on this. I volunteer a ton at my kid’s school events so I know the students well.

I’m very very rarely surprised when I meet the parents of the kids who are constantly a problem. And the lovely kids usually have lovely parents.



Ehhh i can’t agree it’s always the parents.

My family is a perfect example my brother was not well behaved and my parents tried everything they could to get him to behave.

While I on other hand was well behaved.
Same Parents same upbringing (we were only 14 months apart)

Posted 10/5/21 10:04 AM
 

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Posted by Katareen

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Yeah kids who are monsters have parents who are monsters.



You must have young kids. Not all kids turn into their parents good or bad.




I feel confident in my statement on this matter.

I’ve seen board of ed meetings and the parents who speak up. Their kids are little entitled horrors the majority of the time. Teachers who are in the battlefields with these kids and dealing with their parents would agree.



I totally agree with you on this. I volunteer a ton at my kid’s school events so I know the students well.

I’m very very rarely surprised when I meet the parents of the kids who are constantly a problem. And the lovely kids usually have lovely parents.



Ehhh i can’t agree it’s always the parents.

My family is a perfect example my brother was not well behaved and my parents tried everything they could to get him to behave.

While I on other hand was well behaved.
Same Parents same upbringing (we were only 14 months apart)



Same situation with one of my sisters. She has 2 kids. Both are grown ups and good people but her son was a terror in school when he was young.

Posted 10/5/21 10:16 AM
 

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Posted by Katareen

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Yeah kids who are monsters have parents who are monsters.



You must have young kids. Not all kids turn into their parents good or bad.




I feel confident in my statement on this matter.

I’ve seen board of ed meetings and the parents who speak up. Their kids are little entitled horrors the majority of the time. Teachers who are in the battlefields with these kids and dealing with their parents would agree.



I totally agree with you on this. I volunteer a ton at my kid’s school events so I know the students well.

I’m very very rarely surprised when I meet the parents of the kids who are constantly a problem. And the lovely kids usually have lovely parents.



Ehhh i can’t agree it’s always the parents.

My family is a perfect example my brother was not well behaved and my parents tried everything they could to get him to behave.

While I on other hand was well behaved.
Same Parents same upbringing (we were only 14 months apart)



EXACTLY what I have been saying. It is NOT always about the parents and what they have and have not taught. Kids learn A LOT of things outside of the home, good or bad. Every person is different, addictions are different, mental capacity, etc, etc.

That is why I always say parents should not take all the blame nor all the credit for the upbringing of their children.

It annoys me so when people on social media praise someone that they did such a GREAT job with their child. Not that I don't think it DOES have ALOT to do with raising a child but, just one explain I just saw about a month ago, if my child doesn't get me a gift for a holiday or just out of the blue, does that mean I am a bad parent?

Why are we grouping good and bad parents by what everything a child does? YES, some bad kids have parents who are exactly the same way and they learn from them and don't stray to get some good examples from others. Some SEE the bad things their parents do and never want to be like that.

Posted 10/5/21 10:18 AM
 

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TikTok School Challenges

Don’t think being a good parent has to do with anything. You can be the best parent in the world and still have shit kids who are up to no good. Also, your child can be the most well behaved kid at home and school but be up to no good when hanging with their friends. DL bad kid (I’m a good example lol)

Posted 10/5/21 10:29 AM
 

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

Posted by MrsWoods

Don’t think being a good parent has to do with anything. You can be the best parent in the world and still have shit kids who are up to no good. Also, your child can be the most well behaved kid at home and school but be up to no good when hanging with their friends. DL bad kid (I’m a good example lol)



Doesn't have to do with anything? I guess I should just throw my hands in the air and let the kids run wild, since it doesn't matter.

Parenting and what the kids see and learn from home absolutely does make a difference. Of course there are outlying situations and more difficult children than others, but you can't say being a good parent doesn't have anything to do with how your child behaves.

Posted 10/5/21 10:57 AM
 

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Don’t think being a good parent has to do with anything. You can be the best parent in the world and still have shit kids who are up to no good. Also, your child can be the most well behaved kid at home and school but be up to no good when hanging with their friends. DL bad kid (I’m a good example lol)



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I wholeheartedly disagree with you, parenting ALWAYS matters. If it didn't, we would just birth our kids, leave them be and let the cards fall where they may.

Good parenting doesn't mean kids still won't do stupid cr@p on occasion or that a kid might get into some trouble but to say parenting has nothing to do with this is crazy.

Good, solid parenting is critical to a child's growth and development. It's our job as parents to raise kind humans who grow up to be a productive part of society as opposed to being the problem in it. That doesn't happen without guidance and parenting.

The old saying, "the apple doesn't fall from the tree" holds true.

While I did some dumb stuff such as cutting class or sneaking out I would NEVER, EVER have done anything where I exposed myself, touched someone else inappropriately, vandalized school property or hurt anyone else. Why? Because I was raised better than that and knew I'd have to answer to my parents who wouldn't tolerate that kind of behavior.

Social media is truly the downfall of our society. Kids today have way too much access to really stupid ideas and an overwhelming pressure to try and be as "cool and popular" on social media as possible even if it means doing dumb (sometimes dangerous) things. It is so sad. I miss simpler times, my childhood was SO different from kids today and in many ways, SO much better.



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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Don’t think being a good parent has to do with anything. You can be the best parent in the world and still have shit kids who are up to no good. Also, your child can be the most well behaved kid at home and school but be up to no good when hanging with their friends. DL bad kid (I’m a good example lol)



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I wholeheartedly disagree with you, parenting ALWAYS matters. If it didn't, we would just birth our kids, leave them be and let the cards fall where they may.

Good parenting doesn't mean kids still won't do stupid cr@p on occasion or that a kid might get into some trouble but to say parenting has nothing to do with this is crazy.

Good, solid parenting is critical to a child's growth and development. It's our job as parents to raise kind humans who grow up to be a productive part of society as opposed to being the problem in it. That doesn't happen without guidance and parenting.

The old saying, "the apple doesn't fall from the tree" holds true.

While I did some dumb stuff such as cutting class or sneaking out I would NEVER, EVER have done anything where I exposed myself, touched someone else inappropriately, vandalized school property or hurt anyone else. Why? Because I was raised better than that and knew I'd have to answer to my parents who wouldn't tolerate that kind of behavior.

Social media is truly the downfall of our society. Kids today have way too much access to really stupid ideas and an overwhelming pressure to try and be as "cool and popular" on social media as possible even if it means doing dumb (sometimes dangerous) things. It is so sad. I miss simpler times, my childhood was SO different from kids today and in many ways, SO much better.




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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Posted by MrsWoods

Don’t think being a good parent has to do with anything. You can be the best parent in the world and still have shit kids who are up to no good. Also, your child can be the most well behaved kid at home and school but be up to no good when hanging with their friends. DL bad kid (I’m a good example lol)



Doesn't have to do with anything? I guess I should just throw my hands in the air and let the kids run wild, since it doesn't matter.

Parenting and what the kids see and learn from home absolutely does make a difference. Of course there are outlying situations and more difficult children than others, but you can't say being a good parent doesn't have anything to do with how your child behaves.



I agree in that my daughter knows that God forbid she ever pulled a stunt like that and got caught, there would be hell to pay.
She has some friends who get away with murder. DH has heard how some of her friends speak to their parents unchecked and he is always like-if she EVER spoke to us that way, she'd be in BIG trouble.
Now I also know that my daughter has always been a bit of "goody two shoes" and just a 'good' kid so perhaps she wouldn't do those things even if we were lax on discipline etc. A lot of it probably does have to do with personality. I remember seeing kids in daycare with her at like 2 years old and saying- Oh that one is going to be a problem later on. And now, she is with some of these kids still and sure enough, they are more challenging kids just like I saw in their 2 year old personality!
But I think having that discipline definitely helps keep her in line more so than if it wasn't there.

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Don't create an argument that isn't there. Nobody said there aren't exceptions, but to say parenting doesn't matter or doesn't have influence at all is ridiculous.

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by MrsWoods

Don’t think being a good parent has to do with anything. You can be the best parent in the world and still have shit kids who are up to no good. Also, your child can be the most well behaved kid at home and school but be up to no good when hanging with their friends. DL bad kid (I’m a good example lol)



Doesn't have to do with anything? I guess I should just throw my hands in the air and let the kids run wild, since it doesn't matter.

Parenting and what the kids see and learn from home absolutely does make a difference. Of course there are outlying situations and more difficult children than others, but you can't say being a good parent doesn't have anything to do with how your child behaves.



I agree in that my daughter knows that God forbid she ever pulled a stunt like that and got caught, there would be hell to pay.
She has some friends who get away with murder. DH has heard how some of her friends speak to their parents unchecked and he is always like-if she EVER spoke to us that way, she'd be in BIG trouble.
Now I also know that my daughter has always been a bit of "goody two shoes" and just a 'good' kid so perhaps she wouldn't do those things even if we were lax on discipline etc. A lot of it probably does have to do with personality. I remember seeing kids in daycare with her at like 2 years old and saying- Oh that one is going to be a problem later on. And now, she is with some of these kids still and sure enough, they are more challenging kids just like I saw in their 2 year old personality!
But I think having that discipline definitely helps keep her in line more so than if it wasn't there.




I agree. With DS being a teenager I have seen the boys that get more in trouble are in general those whose parents justify anything they do, so they have a sense of entitlement and don't understand consequences. Same parents that in elementary school went to the principal to complain about a teacher if their kids got a bad grade. I'm not saying that DS doesn't do stupid things, but he would never go vandalizing things or harassing people, etc, as what I've seen kids his age doing and, what's worse, posting over that in social media Chat Icon

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Don't create an argument that isn't there. Nobody said there aren't exceptions, but to say parenting doesn't matter or doesn't have influence at all is ridiculous.




I never said either of these things. Just pointing out that not everything parents do good or bad will relate to what their child does in life, good or bad.

Edited to say you just don't know sometimes what good things and what bad things will come out of your parenting and some will just shock you. In good ways and bad.
Remember kids (somewhat as everyone knows they don't always lol) lead by example.

Message edited 10/5/2021 1:07:37 PM.

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Posted by MrsWoods

Don’t think being a good parent has to do with anything. You can be the best parent in the world and still have shit kids who are up to no good. Also, your child can be the most well behaved kid at home and school but be up to no good when hanging with their friends. DL bad kid (I’m a good example lol)



I just quoted you, but it is really in response to a bunch of answers.

I agree that sometimes the apple doesn't fall far from from the tree, but sometimes some children just are rough when they are younger no matter how great the parents are. The issue though is, those who are good parents address the issue and realize there is a problem and then you have those parents who turn a blind eye and think their child is an angel all the time.

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Posted by MrsWoods

Don’t think being a good parent has to do with anything. You can be the best parent in the world and still have shit kids who are up to no good. Also, your child can be the most well behaved kid at home and school but be up to no good when hanging with their friends. DL bad kid (I’m a good example lol)



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I wholeheartedly disagree with you, parenting ALWAYS matters. If it didn't, we would just birth our kids, leave them be and let the cards fall where they may.

Good parenting doesn't mean kids still won't do stupid cr@p on occasion or that a kid might get into some trouble but to say parenting has nothing to do with this is crazy.

Good, solid parenting is critical to a child's growth and development. It's our job as parents to raise kind humans who grow up to be a productive part of society as opposed to being the problem in it. That doesn't happen without guidance and parenting.

The old saying, "the apple doesn't fall from the tree" holds true.

While I did some dumb stuff such as cutting class or sneaking out I would NEVER, EVER have done anything where I exposed myself, touched someone else inappropriately, vandalized school property or hurt anyone else. Why? Because I was raised better than that and knew I'd have to answer to my parents who wouldn't tolerate that kind of behavior.

Social media is truly the downfall of our society. Kids today have way too much access to really stupid ideas and an overwhelming pressure to try and be as "cool and popular" on social media as possible even if it means doing dumb (sometimes dangerous) things. It is so sad. I miss simpler times, my childhood was SO different from kids today and in many ways, SO much better.







Many things kids do today, was done in our childhood and as teens but it just wasn't published so you only hear about stories when you get together with other friends or online now.
There are memes out there about generation x's life back then and how we all survived lol

Posted 10/5/21 1:10 PM
 

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Don’t think being a good parent has to do with anything. You can be the best parent in the world and still have shit kids who are up to no good. Also, your child can be the most well behaved kid at home and school but be up to no good when hanging with their friends. DL bad kid (I’m a good example lol)



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I wholeheartedly disagree with you, parenting ALWAYS matters. If it didn't, we would just birth our kids, leave them be and let the cards fall where they may.

Good parenting doesn't mean kids still won't do stupid cr@p on occasion or that a kid might get into some trouble but to say parenting has nothing to do with this is crazy.

Good, solid parenting is critical to a child's growth and development. It's our job as parents to raise kind humans who grow up to be a productive part of society as opposed to being the problem in it. That doesn't happen without guidance and parenting.

The old saying, "the apple doesn't fall from the tree" holds true.

While I did some dumb stuff such as cutting class or sneaking out I would NEVER, EVER have done anything where I exposed myself, touched someone else inappropriately, vandalized school property or hurt anyone else. Why? Because I was raised better than that and knew I'd have to answer to my parents who wouldn't tolerate that kind of behavior.

Social media is truly the downfall of our society. Kids today have way too much access to really stupid ideas and an overwhelming pressure to try and be as "cool and popular" on social media as possible even if it means doing dumb (sometimes dangerous) things. It is so sad. I miss simpler times, my childhood was SO different from kids today and in many ways, SO much better.






Like said, you can be the best parent in the world, discipline and all and still have shit kids. And you can be the worst parent in the world and have a model student. Yes discipline helps, but it also something to do with personality and social influences.

I’ll give you an example, my DHs sister was raised properly, A+ student and everything with that. She met her future husband who was the influence who took all that away and got her on drugs and her life was never the same. My DH was the bad kid. No matter how properly he was raised he still did bad stuff and barely graduated school. Yet he grew up to have a better life.

You can do the best you can but it all comes down to the kid. I knew a lot of very smart kids who did the shittiest stuff in high school and got away with it. Now with social media it is very hard to get away with much unless your real slick. And there are alot of teenagers who are.

Posted 10/5/21 1:12 PM
 

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I suspect that the kids who are doing this stuff are being encouraged by their parents in some ways. People are angry. The adults are threatening people at meetings and even bullying teen speakers. Right here on LI. Mad about CRT, DEI, masks, possible mandates.

I’m not talking about the people here who are understandably worried… I’m talking about the people who are irrational. I don’t suspect anyone here is radical in their feelings.

All of that stuff filters down. Kids are aware. Their own parents won’t respect the school, the administration, the teachers… Why would they?they then have carte blanche to do whatever they want with their parents blessing and/or encouragement.

What I have seen watching countless meetings across the island has been vile and eye opening. There is zero doubt in my mind that doesn’t influence kids of these parents.

Posted 10/5/21 1:16 PM
 

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Re: TikTok School Challenges

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Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by MrsWoods

Don’t think being a good parent has to do with anything. You can be the best parent in the world and still have shit kids who are up to no good. Also, your child can be the most well behaved kid at home and school but be up to no good when hanging with their friends. DL bad kid (I’m a good example lol)



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I wholeheartedly disagree with you, parenting ALWAYS matters. If it didn't, we would just birth our kids, leave them be and let the cards fall where they may.

Good parenting doesn't mean kids still won't do stupid cr@p on occasion or that a kid might get into some trouble but to say parenting has nothing to do with this is crazy.

Good, solid parenting is critical to a child's growth and development. It's our job as parents to raise kind humans who grow up to be a productive part of society as opposed to being the problem in it. That doesn't happen without guidance and parenting.

The old saying, "the apple doesn't fall from the tree" holds true.

While I did some dumb stuff such as cutting class or sneaking out I would NEVER, EVER have done anything where I exposed myself, touched someone else inappropriately, vandalized school property or hurt anyone else. Why? Because I was raised better than that and knew I'd have to answer to my parents who wouldn't tolerate that kind of behavior.

Social media is truly the downfall of our society. Kids today have way too much access to really stupid ideas and an overwhelming pressure to try and be as "cool and popular" on social media as possible even if it means doing dumb (sometimes dangerous) things. It is so sad. I miss simpler times, my childhood was SO different from kids today and in many ways, SO much better.







Many things kids do today, was done in our childhood and as teens but it just wasn't published so you only hear about stories when you get together with other friends or online now.
There are memes out there about generation x's life back then and how we all survived lol



We drank water from a garden hose, rode our bikes without helmets and sat in the front seat of a car before we were 12. We did NOT expose ourselves, slap teachers, lick urinals... not even close. You have to know that. You can't compare kids today and these "challenges" with the stupid things we did as a kid.

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