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Cpt2007
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Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
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BaroqueMama
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
I think it's a right that we all need to take responsibility for.
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| Posted 10/7/08 10:02 PM |
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Janice
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
its a right...I have a feeling this thread is going to drive me insane and stop me from folding my laundry
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| Posted 10/7/08 10:04 PM |
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Sassyz75
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
it's a human right... i'm sorry, people shouldn't be turned away from good care because they can't afford it. There is just too much wealth in this country
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| Posted 10/7/08 10:06 PM |
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Cpt2007
A new love!
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by Janice
its a right...I have a feeling this thread is going to drive me insane and stop me from folding my laundry
I know...apologies in advance. 
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| Posted 10/7/08 10:07 PM |
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ChilisWife
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
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| Posted 10/7/08 10:07 PM |
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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
too much wealthy, knowledge, and ability.
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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by Cpt2007
Posted by Janice
its a right...I have a feeling this thread is going to drive me insane and stop me from folding my laundry
I know...apologies in advance.
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| Posted 10/7/08 10:08 PM |
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by ChilisWife
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
What about alllll the services needed to take care of people who get so sick because they didn;t have healthcare? Where does that money come from then?
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| Posted 10/7/08 10:11 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by Sassyz75
it's a human right... i'm sorry, people shouldn't be turned away from good care because they can't afford it. There is just too much wealth in this country
I agree completely
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| Posted 10/7/08 10:12 PM |
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ChilisWife
God Bless America
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by ChilisWife
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
What about alllll the services needed to take care of people who get so sick because they didn;t have healthcare? Where does that money come from then?
OK you may have a point except I don't understand - what kind of services to take care of the sick?
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| Posted 10/7/08 10:14 PM |
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Sassyz75
Turning a new page
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by ChilisWife
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
What about alllll the services needed to take care of people who get so sick because they didn;t have healthcare? Where does that money come from then?
OK you may have a point except I don't understand - what kind of services to take care of the sick?
Like the ER visits for the dude that has diabetes, but doesn't have health insurance, so he can't control his blood sugar levels, so he has to take himself to the ER instead of just monitoring his blood sugar and taking insulin.
Or families that have children w/ asthma- who don't have coverage and cannot afford visits to control the asthma, so have to take their kid to the ER to deal w/ major attacks.
Or people that just get the flu- and don't have health insurance and go to the ER b/c they have to treat them.
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| Posted 10/7/08 10:19 PM |
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Kate
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
This question annoyed me because everyone in the U.S. DOES have the right to healthcare. No emergency room will turn anyone away.
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| Posted 10/7/08 10:19 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by ChilisWife
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
What about alllll the services needed to take care of people who get so sick because they didn;t have healthcare? Where does that money come from then?
OK you may have a point except I don't understand - what kind of services to take care of the sick?
Like the ER visits for the dude that has diabetes, but doesn't have health insurance, so he can't control his blood sugar levels, so he has to take himself to the ER instead of just monitoring his blood sugar and taking insulin.
Or families that have children w/ asthma- who don't have coverage and cannot afford visits to control the asthma, so have to take their kid to the ER to deal w/ major attacks.
Or people that just get the flu- and don't have health insurance and go to the ER b/c they have to treat them.
unless all these ppl are giving out false info, they're getting a hospital bill in the mail
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Chai77
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
I think healthcare is a right. Just like the fire department comes to put out the fire if your house is burning down regardless of your ability to pay or your immigration status. I think we all need to contribute, unfortunately via taxes, and yes, that means that the wealthy contribute more towards caring for the poorest among us.
That, to me, is the measure of a society- how it cares for its weakest members.
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ChilisWife
God Bless America
Member since 5/05 3570 total posts
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by ChilisWife
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
What about alllll the services needed to take care of people who get so sick because they didn;t have healthcare? Where does that money come from then?
OK you may have a point except I don't understand - what kind of services to take care of the sick?
Like the ER visits for the dude that has diabetes, but doesn't have health insurance, so he can't control his blood sugar levels, so he has to take himself to the ER instead of just monitoring his blood sugar and taking insulin.
Or families that have children w/ asthma- who don't have coverage and cannot afford visits to control the asthma, so have to take their kid to the ER to deal w/ major attacks.
Or people that just get the flu- and don't have health insurance and go to the ER b/c they have to treat them.
well then I guess I am a bit ignorant about this issue as I was unaware that you can get treated at the ER and have the government pay for it...really?
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Beth
The Key to your new home....
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by Kate
This question annoyed me because everyone in the U.S. DOES have the right to healthcare. No emergency room will turn anyone away.
sure they wont turn you away
but you will get a bill for $5K
and if you can't afford health care- you can't afford that either
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by ChilisWife
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
What about alllll the services needed to take care of people who get so sick because they didn;t have healthcare? Where does that money come from then?
OK you may have a point except I don't understand - what kind of services to take care of the sick?
Like the ER visits for the dude that has diabetes, but doesn't have health insurance, so he can't control his blood sugar levels, so he has to take himself to the ER instead of just monitoring his blood sugar and taking insulin.
Or families that have children w/ asthma- who don't have coverage and cannot afford visits to control the asthma, so have to take their kid to the ER to deal w/ major attacks.
Or people that just get the flu- and don't have health insurance and go to the ER b/c they have to treat them.
unless all these ppl are giving out false info, they're getting a hospital bill in the mail
and how are they paying for it?
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by ChilisWife
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
What about alllll the services needed to take care of people who get so sick because they didn;t have healthcare? Where does that money come from then?
OK you may have a point except I don't understand - what kind of services to take care of the sick?
Like the ER visits for the dude that has diabetes, but doesn't have health insurance, so he can't control his blood sugar levels, so he has to take himself to the ER instead of just monitoring his blood sugar and taking insulin.
Or families that have children w/ asthma- who don't have coverage and cannot afford visits to control the asthma, so have to take their kid to the ER to deal w/ major attacks.
Or people that just get the flu- and don't have health insurance and go to the ER b/c they have to treat them.
unless all these ppl are giving out false info, they're getting a hospital bill in the mail
and how are they paying for it?
I don't know. good question.
i guess this put them into a deeper hole when they can't pay it
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Beth
The Key to your new home....
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by ChilisWife
well then I guess I am a bit ignorant about this issue as I was unaware that you can get treated at the ER and have the government pay for it...really?
no, you will personally pay for it
back when my DH was young- and had no health coverage
he went to the ER
it cost $13K
the government didn't pick up the tab for that
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ChilisWife
God Bless America
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by ChilisWife
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
What about alllll the services needed to take care of people who get so sick because they didn;t have healthcare? Where does that money come from then?
OK you may have a point except I don't understand - what kind of services to take care of the sick?
Like the ER visits for the dude that has diabetes, but doesn't have health insurance, so he can't control his blood sugar levels, so he has to take himself to the ER instead of just monitoring his blood sugar and taking insulin.
Or families that have children w/ asthma- who don't have coverage and cannot afford visits to control the asthma, so have to take their kid to the ER to deal w/ major attacks.
Or people that just get the flu- and don't have health insurance and go to the ER b/c they have to treat them.
unless all these ppl are giving out false info, they're getting a hospital bill in the mail
and how are they paying for it?
they don't...they go into debt...I know people that filed bankruptcy solely b/c of health care costs they cannot pay
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by ChilisWife
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
What about alllll the services needed to take care of people who get so sick because they didn;t have healthcare? Where does that money come from then?
OK you may have a point except I don't understand - what kind of services to take care of the sick?
Like the ER visits for the dude that has diabetes, but doesn't have health insurance, so he can't control his blood sugar levels, so he has to take himself to the ER instead of just monitoring his blood sugar and taking insulin.
Or families that have children w/ asthma- who don't have coverage and cannot afford visits to control the asthma, so have to take their kid to the ER to deal w/ major attacks.
Or people that just get the flu- and don't have health insurance and go to the ER b/c they have to treat them.
unless all these ppl are giving out false info, they're getting a hospital bill in the mail
and how are they paying for it?
I don't know. good question.
i guess this put them into a deeper hole when they can't pay it
Exactly.
Making it cheaper and available in the very beginning is a solid investment for our future.
Yes, I'll be running in 4 years! 
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by ChilisWife
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
What about alllll the services needed to take care of people who get so sick because they didn;t have healthcare? Where does that money come from then?
OK you may have a point except I don't understand - what kind of services to take care of the sick?
Like the ER visits for the dude that has diabetes, but doesn't have health insurance, so he can't control his blood sugar levels, so he has to take himself to the ER instead of just monitoring his blood sugar and taking insulin.
Or families that have children w/ asthma- who don't have coverage and cannot afford visits to control the asthma, so have to take their kid to the ER to deal w/ major attacks.
Or people that just get the flu- and don't have health insurance and go to the ER b/c they have to treat them.
unless all these ppl are giving out false info, they're getting a hospital bill in the mail
and how are they paying for it?
they don't...they go into debt...I know people that filed bankruptcy solely b/c of health care costs they cannot pay
How terrific for the economy  Good plan! 
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Kate
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by Kate
This question annoyed me because everyone in the U.S. DOES have the right to healthcare. No emergency room will turn anyone away.
sure they wont turn you away
but you will get a bill for $5K
and if you can't afford health care- you can't afford that either
No, then it is their responsibility to pay it. I do not think that FREE healthcare is a right. But they will be treated.
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Spin-off from the Debate: Do you believe that Healthcare is a Right or a Responsibility?
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Posted by ChilisWife
I want to say it is a right, but I am thinking of other "rights" that Americans have, and I think the difference is that the right to health care, unlike other rights, needs to be funded somehow. It costs government money and ultimately is a taxpayer burden.
What about alllll the services needed to take care of people who get so sick because they didn;t have healthcare? Where does that money come from then?
OK you may have a point except I don't understand - what kind of services to take care of the sick?
Like the ER visits for the dude that has diabetes, but doesn't have health insurance, so he can't control his blood sugar levels, so he has to take himself to the ER instead of just monitoring his blood sugar and taking insulin.
Or families that have children w/ asthma- who don't have coverage and cannot afford visits to control the asthma, so have to take their kid to the ER to deal w/ major attacks.
Or people that just get the flu- and don't have health insurance and go to the ER b/c they have to treat them.
unless all these ppl are giving out false info, they're getting a hospital bill in the mail
and how are they paying for it?
I don't know. good question.
i guess this put them into a deeper hole when they can't pay it
Exactly.
Making it cheaper and available in the very beginning is a solid investment for our future.
Yes, I'll be running in 4 years!
just wanted to clarify that all these ppl who to the ER aren't getting a free ride from the Gov't, unless they give false info.
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