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Nope!! No Irony to be Found Here!!

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HoneyBadger
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Nope!! No Irony to be Found Here!!

I misread the quote below... it was not all stated by Sarah Palin so my question of seeing the irony is moot.

Thank you all for your responses!! Chat Icon

Palin states: "We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby..." Isn't it wonderful that we live in a country in which Bristol (and perhaps Levi, too) had the right to make this decision, rather than have the rest of us, through our government, make that decision for them?

Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement??

If I didn't know she was Pro-Life, I'd SURELY think she was PRO-CHOICE.

Thoughts?

Message edited 9/1/2008 9:59:31 PM.

Posted 9/1/08 9:12 PM
 
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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

I agree with you, if we didn't know we'd probably think she was pro-choice.
Unfortunately examples like this highlight why this particular issue is such a challenge for die-hard supporters on either side to find common ground. They both passionatly believe its all or nothing.

Posted 9/1/08 9:17 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

Posted by Jennie0898

Palin states: "We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby..." Isn't it wonderful that we live in a country in which Bristol (and perhaps Levi, too) had the right to make this decision, rather than have the rest of us, through our government, make that decision for them?

Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement??

If I didn't know she was Pro-Life, I'd SURELY think she was PRO-CHOICE.

Thoughts?



Yes, it is indeed ironic!!! Chat Icon

Posted 9/1/08 9:17 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

yes - it is

I was kinda Chat Icon about it too

Choices are a GOOD thing!

Posted 9/1/08 9:19 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

I say this as someone who is pro-choice.

I don't find acknowledging that someone has a choice to be ironic just because you don't think that choice should exist. So, no, I don't really find it ironic. I think people are going to rip to shreds anything this woman says (as they do with most other politicians, of course).

If I were against drinking and thought it should be illegal, I could "I am glad my husband chooses not to drink." I don't think that would be ironic just because I don't think he should have the choice to do so legally.

Again, I say this as someone who is pro-choice and pro-responsible drinking. (And who strongly feels that the federal government has no business in the abortion arena... but that's a whole other debate...)

Posted 9/1/08 9:22 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

I am pro-life and even i think her comment sounds decidedly pro-choice. interesting...

Posted 9/1/08 9:22 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

I find this ironic........she is happy that HER daughter was able to make a choice to HAVE her baby, but others who feel they do not want to have their baby should not be able to make the choice and have an aborition?Chat Icon

Posted 9/1/08 9:23 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

Posted by Kara

I say this as someone who is pro-choice.

I don't find acknowledging that someone has a choice to be ironic just because you don't think that choice should exist.



I really don't see how you came to this conclusion.

She's adamantly pro-choice. Now that her 17 year old daughter is PG she thinks it's "wonderful" that her daughter had a CHOICE.

That statement completely contradicts what she supposedly stands for.

Posted 9/1/08 9:26 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Kara

I say this as someone who is pro-choice.

I don't find acknowledging that someone has a choice to be ironic just because you don't think that choice should exist.



I really don't see how you came to this conclusion.

She's adamantly pro-choice. Now that her 17 year old daughter is PG she thinks it's "wonderful" that her daughter had a CHOICE.

That statement completely contradicts what she supposedly stands for.



I don't know if completely contradicts what she stands for. she said she was proud her daughter is having the baby. she is proud of that choice, not the choice to have an abortion.

it sounds "pro-choicy" but now that i think about it, i think she is proud of the TYPE of choice that she made given that in this country she has the option to make the other choice (abortion). she doesn't say that she agrees with the other option.

Posted 9/1/08 9:28 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Kara

I say this as someone who is pro-choice.

I don't find acknowledging that someone has a choice to be ironic just because you don't think that choice should exist.



I really don't see how you came to this conclusion.

She's adamantly pro-choice. Now that her 17 year old daughter is PG she thinks it's "wonderful" that her daughter had a CHOICE.

That statement completely contradicts what she supposedly stands for.



Its all interpretation, in the world of a TRUE Hardcore Pro-lifer the ONLY CHOICE is full term pregnancy & birth.

Posted 9/1/08 9:28 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

I think she should have said "In our family we acknowlege that a baby is born at conception, and our family is supporting Bristol and Levi and their choice to marry and raise this child."

Posted 9/1/08 9:30 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

Posted by donegal419
I don't know if completely contradicts what she stands for. she said she was proud her daughter is having the baby. she is proud of that choice, not the choice to have an abortion.

it sounds "pro-choicy" but now that i think about it, i think she is proud of the TYPE of choice that she made given that in this country she has the option to make the other choice (abortion). she doesn't say that she agrees with the other option.



I would agree with you had she said something to the effect of "I'm so glad Bristol decided to have the baby" but she specifically said:

Isn't it wonderful that we live in a country in which Bristol (and perhaps Levi, too) had the right to make this decision, rather than have the rest of us, through our government, make that decision for them?

Specifically saying that's she's glad her daughter had the choice and that the government didn't make that decision for her.

Pro-Life, as I understand it, do not want there to be the option of choosing to have an abortion.

She's CLEARLY saying she's happy her daughter had the choice. That's pretty contridictory to the Pro-Life beliefs, no?

Posted 9/1/08 9:37 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

Posted by KellyFG

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Kara

I say this as someone who is pro-choice.

I don't find acknowledging that someone has a choice to be ironic just because you don't think that choice should exist.



I really don't see how you came to this conclusion.

She's adamantly pro-choice. Now that her 17 year old daughter is PG she thinks it's "wonderful" that her daughter had a CHOICE.

That statement completely contradicts what she supposedly stands for.



Its all interpretation, in the world of a TRUE Hardcore Pro-lifer the ONLY CHOICE is full term pregnancy & birth.



I really don't think there's much to interpret in what she said. It's pretty clear she thinks it's wonderful her daughter had the choice to decide what she was to do with her pregnancy.

That as I understand it, goes against the pro-life stance, no?

Posted 9/1/08 9:39 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by donegal419
I don't know if completely contradicts what she stands for. she said she was proud her daughter is having the baby. she is proud of that choice, not the choice to have an abortion.

it sounds "pro-choicy" but now that i think about it, i think she is proud of the TYPE of choice that she made given that in this country she has the option to make the other choice (abortion). she doesn't say that she agrees with the other option.



I would agree with you had she said something to the effect of "I'm so glad Bristol decided to have the baby" but she specifically said:

Isn't it wonderful that we live in a country in which Bristol (and perhaps Levi, too) had the right to make this decision, rather than have the rest of us, through our government, make that decision for them?

Specifically saying that's she's glad her daughter had the choice and that the government didn't make that decision for her.

Pro-Life, as I understand it, do not want there to be the option of choosing to have an abortion.

She's CLEARLY saying she's happy her daughter had the choice. That's pretty contridictory to the Pro-Life beliefs, no?



Absolutely, shows me that whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Now because she is actually experiencing the situation maybe she knows what its like to have to make that choice, not just preaching about it 24/7

Posted 9/1/08 9:43 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

That sounds pro choice to me. If the government outlaws abortion they take away the choice from those who would chose it. I wonder if Sarah Palin really believed in that statement.

Posted 9/1/08 9:44 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by KellyFG

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Kara

I say this as someone who is pro-choice.

I don't find acknowledging that someone has a choice to be ironic just because you don't think that choice should exist.



I really don't see how you came to this conclusion.

She's adamantly pro-choice. Now that her 17 year old daughter is PG she thinks it's "wonderful" that her daughter had a CHOICE.

That statement completely contradicts what she supposedly stands for.



Its all interpretation, in the world of a TRUE Hardcore Pro-lifer the ONLY CHOICE is full term pregnancy & birth.



I really don't think there's much to interpret in what she said. It's pretty clear she thinks it's wonderful her daughter had the choice to decide what she was to do with her pregnancy.

That as I understand it, goes against the pro-life stance, no?



Yeah, I agree. I am really confused by her statement. She isn't saying how happy she is that the girl is having the baby (pro-life), but that it is so wonderful that she has the choice (pro-choice). Chat Icon

Posted 9/1/08 9:45 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

Posted by Chai77

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by KellyFG

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by Kara

I say this as someone who is pro-choice.

I don't find acknowledging that someone has a choice to be ironic just because you don't think that choice should exist.



I really don't see how you came to this conclusion.

She's adamantly pro-choice. Now that her 17 year old daughter is PG she thinks it's "wonderful" that her daughter had a CHOICE.

That statement completely contradicts what she supposedly stands for.



Its all interpretation, in the world of a TRUE Hardcore Pro-lifer the ONLY CHOICE is full term pregnancy & birth.



I really don't think there's much to interpret in what she said. It's pretty clear she thinks it's wonderful her daughter had the choice to decide what she was to do with her pregnancy.

That as I understand it, goes against the pro-life stance, no?



Yeah, I agree. I am really confused by her statement. She isn't saying how happy she is that the girl is having the baby (pro-life), but that it is so wonderful that she has the choice (pro-choice). Chat Icon



Exactly my point.

Posted 9/1/08 9:47 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

She did not say that statement.

Her quote was within the quotes ""We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby..." That's where her quote ends.

The sentence following was a response from someone posting in response to the article on this NPR blog.

Here is the exact comment:

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Palin states: "We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby..." Isn't it wonderful that we live in a country in which Bristol (and perhaps Levi, too) had the right to make this decision, rather than have the rest of us, through our government, make that decision for them?

Sent by Phyllis Hall | 12:47 PM ET | 09-01-2008

Message edited 9/1/2008 9:52:56 PM.

Posted 9/1/08 9:47 PM
 

HoneyBadger
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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

Posted by nov04libride

She did not say that statement.

Her quote was within the quotes ""We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby..." That's where her quote ends.

The sentence following was a response from someone posting in response to the article on this NPR blog.

Here is the exact comment:

Comments (Send a comment)

Palin states: "We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby..." Isn't it wonderful that we live in a country in which Bristol (and perhaps Levi, too) had the right to make this decision, rather than have the rest of us, through our government, make that decision for them?

Sent by Phyllis Hall | 12:47 PM ET | 09-01-2008



Ok, I misread the quote than... Thank you for pointing that out, it makes a LOT more sense now!

I retract my statement and will edit my OP as it is NOT ironic! Chat Icon

Posted 9/1/08 9:57 PM
 

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Re: Does anyone see the IRONY of this statement by Sarah Palin??

Shanti pointed this out on another thread

I find this statement and the whole situation Ironic

choice is great- it's what this country was founded on

Posted 9/1/08 9:57 PM
 

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Re: Nope!! No Irony to be Found Here!!

Posted by Jennie0898

Posted by nov04libride

She did not say that statement.

Her quote was within the quotes ""We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby..." That's where her quote ends.

The sentence following was a response from someone posting in response to the article on this NPR blog.

Here is the exact comment:

Comments (Send a comment)

Palin states: "We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby..." Isn't it wonderful that we live in a country in which Bristol (and perhaps Levi, too) had the right to make this decision, rather than have the rest of us, through our government, make that decision for them?

Sent by Phyllis Hall | 12:47 PM ET | 09-01-2008



Ok, I misread the quote than... Thank you for pointing that out, it makes a LOT more sense now!

I retract my statement and will edit my OP as it is NOT ironic! Chat Icon



For what it's worth, I still think it's ironic to imply that she had a choice or decision! Chat Icon

Posted 9/1/08 10:00 PM
 

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Re: Nope!! No Irony to be Found Here!!

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Posted 9/1/08 10:00 PM
 

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Re: Nope!! No Irony to be Found Here!!

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Posted 9/1/08 10:01 PM
 

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Posted 9/1/08 10:01 PM
 

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Re: Nope!! No Irony to be Found Here!!

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