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Xelindrya
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Hrm
I would think since he did all that research the only way to combat that is to do some of your own.
I fight logic with logic
Its so easy to say "because" but its harder to PROVE it.
So ask for his research. Look into each point of contention and disprove it if you can.
Although I do vaccination my child, I personally HATE the amount of vaccinations they give. I hate the order they are received and age which they are given.
If you want to turn him around, you need to prove it. Then again, don't be surprised if just some of the stuff he found out is justified. If so, then look at it like I did. I may disagree with some of it but what fight to do I want? My guilt or the state system? Its a hard uphill battle now a days. And if AJ were to get sick and god help me DIE then my stance on them is pretty much moot isn't it? So I spread the vaccinations out instead.
Good Luck
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
The benefits of being vaccinated FAR outweigh any possible side effects so I cannot imagine why anyone wouldn't vaccinate their kids. I think it's so irresponsible as a parent. Sorry but it's JMO..........you're putting your child at risk for illnesses and disease that are completely avoidable.
The reason we have virtually eradicated things like polio and small pox is because of vaccines and the reason we're seeing these diseases start to pop up again is because of parents who think they somehow know better than the medical community and therefore don't vaccinate their kids. I personally don't like the idea of my vaccinated child even being exposed to any possible illnesses because some parent didn't think it was important enough to vaccinate their kids.
Tell your DH he's not a doctor, he doesn't know better, and he's doing a complete disservice to his own son. I think you'd rather have a healthy child then a sick one. My DD is just over 2 and has had every single vaccines on schedule and she never had a single side effect or issue. Sorry but I don't see the argument, your DH is SOOOOOOOO wrong here.
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by Hofstra26
The benefits of being vaccinated FAR outweigh any possible side effects so I cannot imagine why anyone wouldn't vaccinate their kids. I think it's so irresponsible as a parent. Sorry but it's JMO..........you're putting your child at risk for illnesses and disease that are completely avoidable.
The reason we have virtually eradicated things like polio and small pox is because of vaccines and the reason we're seeing these diseases start to pop up again is because of parents who think they somehow know better than the medical community and therefore don't vaccinate their kids. I personally don't like the idea of my vaccinated child even being exposed to any possible illnesses because some parent didn't think it was important enough to vaccinate their kids.
Tell your DH he's not a doctor, he doesn't know better, and he's doing a complete disservice to his own son. I think you'd rather have a healthy child then a sick one. My DD is just over 2 and has had every single vaccines on schedule and she never had a single side effect or issue. Sorry but I don't see the argument, your DH is SOOOOOOOO wrong here.
First of all, if your child is vaccinated then what is the problem? Your DC is protected against the illness because they're vaccinated. And do I think I "know more than the medical community"? In some instances, yes. I know what's better for my child. Do I have a medical degree? No. But I HAVE talked to people that DO have medical degrees and they don't agree with the amount/timing of vaccines either. Speak to any naturopathic DOCTOR or chiropractor, and you will get the same answer. Do I think a large part of the increase in vaccines is due to money? Absolutely. Why do they keep getting the same vaccines when they can check and see if they are actually needed by checking titres? It's money in "the entire medical community's" pockets.
To say that her DH is SOOOOOO wrong is out of line, IMO. Who are you to tell a father that his beliefs are wrong?
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by OrganicMama
Posted by Hofstra26
The benefits of being vaccinated FAR outweigh any possible side effects so I cannot imagine why anyone wouldn't vaccinate their kids. I think it's so irresponsible as a parent. Sorry but it's JMO..........you're putting your child at risk for illnesses and disease that are completely avoidable.
The reason we have virtually eradicated things like polio and small pox is because of vaccines and the reason we're seeing these diseases start to pop up again is because of parents who think they somehow know better than the medical community and therefore don't vaccinate their kids. I personally don't like the idea of my vaccinated child even being exposed to any possible illnesses because some parent didn't think it was important enough to vaccinate their kids.
Tell your DH he's not a doctor, he doesn't know better, and he's doing a complete disservice to his own son. I think you'd rather have a healthy child then a sick one. My DD is just over 2 and has had every single vaccines on schedule and she never had a single side effect or issue. Sorry but I don't see the argument, your DH is SOOOOOOOO wrong here.
First of all, if your child is vaccinated then what is the problem? Your DC is protected against the illness because they're vaccinated. And do I think I "know more than the medical community"? In some instances, yes. I know what's better for my child. Do I have a medical degree? No. But I HAVE talked to people that DO have medical degrees and they don't agree with the amount/timing of vaccines either. Speak to any naturopathic DOCTOR or chiropractor, and you will get the same answer. Do I think a large part of the increase in vaccines is due to money? Absolutely. Why do they keep getting the same vaccines when they can check and see if they are actually needed by checking titres? It's money in "the entire medical community's" pockets.
To say that her DH is SOOOOOO wrong is out of line, IMO. Who are you to tell a father that his beliefs are wrong?
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by OrganicMama
Posted by Hofstra26
The benefits of being vaccinated FAR outweigh any possible side effects so I cannot imagine why anyone wouldn't vaccinate their kids. I think it's so irresponsible as a parent. Sorry but it's JMO..........you're putting your child at risk for illnesses and disease that are completely avoidable.
The reason we have virtually eradicated things like polio and small pox is because of vaccines and the reason we're seeing these diseases start to pop up again is because of parents who think they somehow know better than the medical community and therefore don't vaccinate their kids. I personally don't like the idea of my vaccinated child even being exposed to any possible illnesses because some parent didn't think it was important enough to vaccinate their kids.
Tell your DH he's not a doctor, he doesn't know better, and he's doing a complete disservice to his own son. I think you'd rather have a healthy child then a sick one. My DD is just over 2 and has had every single vaccines on schedule and she never had a single side effect or issue. Sorry but I don't see the argument, your DH is SOOOOOOOO wrong here.
First of all, if your child is vaccinated then what is the problem? Your DC is protected against the illness because they're vaccinated. And do I think I "know more than the medical community"? In some instances, yes. I know what's better for my child. Do I have a medical degree? No. But I HAVE talked to people that DO have medical degrees and they don't agree with the amount/timing of vaccines either. Speak to any naturopathic DOCTOR or chiropractor, and you will get the same answer. Do I think a large part of the increase in vaccines is due to money? Absolutely. Why do they keep getting the same vaccines when they can check and see if they are actually needed by checking titres? It's money in "the entire medical community's" pockets.
To say that her DH is SOOOOOO wrong is out of line, IMO. Who are you to tell a father that his beliefs are wrong?
I agree with a lot of this. Many Dr's d not have any idea about what is in vaccines, current safety standards, proper nutririon...I could go on and on. As a parent you have to research and figure some things out on your own. Anyone who thinks this influx of vaccines is not money motivated is, quite frankly, naive.
When my kids were born premature-we were told by two NICU Dr's NOT to get the Hep B because it was a large social experiement. My kid is not going to be a guinea pig for the CDC/pharma.
Flu shots this year have both the H1N1 and the regular flu...my ped said if we were going to do it she would give just the regular flu. Sorry but I am not injecting my children with vacine that was shoved out onto the market with virtually no research. The way the flu vaccine is comprised is by picking a few strains that have been seen in other parts of the world and using those to make the vaccine. There are hundreds of strains of the flu.
I could go on and on...bottom line is every parent has the right to choose what is right for their children.
posts like these are always drama anyway
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Vaccines = mostly profit $$$, politics, drug industry having too much control on gov't, lobbyists.....
yes, some are beneficial
yes, some were created to cure and prevent
but if anyone thinks all vaccines are made out of love and care, they are probably mistaken.
the fact that you can get a flu shot at any CVS is alarming.
the fact that there are, what, 16 more vaccines now than there were when I was a kid is scary.
i'm not anti-vaccine, but my child hasn't had all...and he is on a slower schedule.
it's ironic...we won't give them sugar at bedtime, but we are so quick to listen to docs to vaccine our kids with chemicals based on some "schedule." I see what one ice cream cone does to him based on his size..I dread thinking of his little body being vaccinated with foreign substances.
i'm all for everyone's own personal beliefs on this, but I wish people wouldn't always just assume that the guy in the white lab coat knows best.
I asked my son's doc (one of them, at least) at Mid Suffolk Ped Group about vaccines and which ones are "newer"...the woman doc (who is very popular) said she wasn't sure...she had only been in pediatrics since X amount of time. I was shocked. They don't know everything.
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ChrisDee
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by OrganicMama
Posted by Hofstra26
The benefits of being vaccinated FAR outweigh any possible side effects so I cannot imagine why anyone wouldn't vaccinate their kids. I think it's so irresponsible as a parent. Sorry but it's JMO..........you're putting your child at risk for illnesses and disease that are completely avoidable.
The reason we have virtually eradicated things like polio and small pox is because of vaccines and the reason we're seeing these diseases start to pop up again is because of parents who think they somehow know better than the medical community and therefore don't vaccinate their kids. I personally don't like the idea of my vaccinated child even being exposed to any possible illnesses because some parent didn't think it was important enough to vaccinate their kids.
Tell your DH he's not a doctor, he doesn't know better, and he's doing a complete disservice to his own son. I think you'd rather have a healthy child then a sick one. My DD is just over 2 and has had every single vaccines on schedule and she never had a single side effect or issue. Sorry but I don't see the argument, your DH is SOOOOOOOO wrong here.
First of all, if your child is vaccinated then what is the problem? Your DC is protected against the illness because they're vaccinated. And do I think I "know more than the medical community"? In some instances, yes. I know what's better for my child. Do I have a medical degree? No. But I HAVE talked to people that DO have medical degrees and they don't agree with the amount/timing of vaccines either. Speak to any naturopathic DOCTOR or chiropractor, and you will get the same answer. Do I think a large part of the increase in vaccines is due to money? Absolutely. Why do they keep getting the same vaccines when they can check and see if they are actually needed by checking titres? It's money in "the entire medical community's" pockets.
To say that her DH is SOOOOOO wrong is out of line, IMO. Who are you to tell a father that his beliefs are wrong?
I would just like to tell you that they believe my older daughter had Pertussis a year or two ago. It was awful and I thank God the baby did not get it. She was vaccinated but they have found that there needs to now be a booster when they are older. When I asked why she caught this when it has not been around for years. My Dr. said because of 2 reasons. #1 people coming into this country with out the proper vaccines and #2 people choosing to stop vaccinating their children. I love and trust my Dr and would never allow him near my child if I felt differently.
Your choice is just that, YOUR choice but it does affect others in the community in some cases. Like it or not.
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Dulcinea
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Like you and your DH, my DH and I also don't agree but agreed to compromise.
Don't brush off all your DH's research. He is doing so for your child's safety so give him abit of credit for trying to be a good dad and not just following the herd.
See if you can't follow a delayed (say vaccinate after 2) or a selective vac. schedule or both.
Good luck!
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mlny
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
I was never a fan of vaccines. I'm still not. My pediatrician pokes fun at me for it. I'm neurotic, but hey, it's my first child - I can be neurotic!
As far as they go - DS is vaccinated anyways and on schedule.
I'll never forget though - how RELIEVED I felt when I read about 6 infants just slightly younger than DS dying in California from whooping cough and I realized my son was already vaccinated for it. Not that I am in CA or anything but still - it was then when I realized the benefits outweigh the risks.
That piece of mind is priceless.
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ChrisDee
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by mlny
I was never a fan of vaccines. I'm still not. My pediatrician pokes fun at me for it. I'm neurotic, but hey, it's my first child - I can be neurotic!
As far as they go - DS is vaccinated anyways and on schedule.
I'll never forget though - how RELIEVED I felt when I read about 6 infants just slightly younger than DS dying in California from whooping cough and I realized my son was already vaccinated for it. Not that I am in CA or anything but still - it was then when I realized the benefits outweigh the risks.
That piece of mind is priceless.
My DD had it(whooping cough) right here in Port Jefferson.
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OrganicMama
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by mlny
I was never a fan of vaccines. I'm still not. My pediatrician pokes fun at me for it. I'm neurotic, but hey, it's my first child - I can be neurotic!
As far as they go - DS is vaccinated anyways and on schedule.
I'll never forget though - how RELIEVED I felt when I read about 6 infants just slightly younger than DS dying in California from whooping cough and I realized my son was already vaccinated for it. Not that I am in CA or anything but still - it was then when I realized the benefits outweigh the risks.
That piece of mind is priceless.
Now if the pharmaceutical companies would split the vaccine up so it would be possible to get a Pertussis vaccine without the Diptheria & Tetanus, I'm sure a LOT more parents would vaccinate their kids against Pertussis, or do it much sooner. The same with MMR.
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ChrisDee
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by OrganicMama
Posted by mlny
I was never a fan of vaccines. I'm still not. My pediatrician pokes fun at me for it. I'm neurotic, but hey, it's my first child - I can be neurotic!
As far as they go - DS is vaccinated anyways and on schedule.
I'll never forget though - how RELIEVED I felt when I read about 6 infants just slightly younger than DS dying in California from whooping cough and I realized my son was already vaccinated for it. Not that I am in CA or anything but still - it was then when I realized the benefits outweigh the risks.
That piece of mind is priceless.
Now if the pharmaceutical companies would split the vaccine up so it would be possible to get a Pertussis vaccine without the Diptheria & Tetanus, I'm sure a LOT more parents would vaccinate their kids against Pertussis, or do it much sooner. The same with MMR.
If you split the shots into 2 or 3 then isn't your child is getting 2 or 3 times the amount of the preservative they use to give it a longer shelf life. Isn't that bad?
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OrganicMama
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by ChrisDee
Posted by OrganicMama
Posted by mlny
I was never a fan of vaccines. I'm still not. My pediatrician pokes fun at me for it. I'm neurotic, but hey, it's my first child - I can be neurotic!
As far as they go - DS is vaccinated anyways and on schedule.
I'll never forget though - how RELIEVED I felt when I read about 6 infants just slightly younger than DS dying in California from whooping cough and I realized my son was already vaccinated for it. Not that I am in CA or anything but still - it was then when I realized the benefits outweigh the risks.
That piece of mind is priceless.
Now if the pharmaceutical companies would split the vaccine up so it would be possible to get a Pertussis vaccine without the Diptheria & Tetanus, I'm sure a LOT more parents would vaccinate their kids against Pertussis, or do it much sooner. The same with MMR.
If you split the shots into 2 or 3 then isn't your child is getting 2 or 3 times the amount of the preservative they use to give it a longer shelf life. Isn't that bad?
I'm not sure what you mean about the longer shelf life, but the amount of the preservatives & ingredients depends on the vaccine. If the Pertussis was available by itself (and NY gave me the option to choose, which it doesn't), I would vaccinate with just the pertussis and not do diptheria and tetanus until DS was much older because those aren't needed when he's a baby IMO. If the MMR were separate I'm assuming he would be getting more chemical/preservatives because it would be broken down into 3 different shot, but it would only be one live vaccine at a time as opposed to 3. I'm not sure what I would do in that instance, I would have to research it further and weight the pros and cons.
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ktcmblondie
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by OrganicMama
Posted by mlny
I was never a fan of vaccines. I'm still not. My pediatrician pokes fun at me for it. I'm neurotic, but hey, it's my first child - I can be neurotic!
As far as they go - DS is vaccinated anyways and on schedule.
I'll never forget though - how RELIEVED I felt when I read about 6 infants just slightly younger than DS dying in California from whooping cough and I realized my son was already vaccinated for it. Not that I am in CA or anything but still - it was then when I realized the benefits outweigh the risks.
That piece of mind is priceless.
Now if the pharmaceutical companies would split the vaccine up so it would be possible to get a Pertussis vaccine without the Diptheria & Tetanus, I'm sure a LOT more parents would vaccinate their kids against Pertussis, or do it much sooner. The same with MMR.
I did ALOT of research on the pertussis vaccine...and most deaths due to pertussis occur in infants under 3 months of age which means the best protection you can give your child is too limit who they come in contact with at such a young age...However in my research I also found out that several cases of pertussis are actually what is called Para-pertussis which looks exactly like pertussis but is resistant to the actual vaccine and just as contagious...the research also states alot of cases of para-pertussis go UNreported because doctors falsely assume it could not be some form of pertussis because the patient has been vaccinated and its much more common than you think....and you can't blame another unvaccinated party for spreading a disease that has no vaccination available
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Hofstra26
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by OrganicMama
Posted by Hofstra26
The benefits of being vaccinated FAR outweigh any possible side effects so I cannot imagine why anyone wouldn't vaccinate their kids. I think it's so irresponsible as a parent. Sorry but it's JMO..........you're putting your child at risk for illnesses and disease that are completely avoidable.
The reason we have virtually eradicated things like polio and small pox is because of vaccines and the reason we're seeing these diseases start to pop up again is because of parents who think they somehow know better than the medical community and therefore don't vaccinate their kids. I personally don't like the idea of my vaccinated child even being exposed to any possible illnesses because some parent didn't think it was important enough to vaccinate their kids.
Tell your DH he's not a doctor, he doesn't know better, and he's doing a complete disservice to his own son. I think you'd rather have a healthy child then a sick one. My DD is just over 2 and has had every single vaccines on schedule and she never had a single side effect or issue. Sorry but I don't see the argument, your DH is SOOOOOOOO wrong here.
First of all, if your child is vaccinated then what is the problem? Your DC is protected against the illness because they're vaccinated. And do I think I "know more than the medical community"? In some instances, yes. I know what's better for my child. Do I have a medical degree? No. But I HAVE talked to people that DO have medical degrees and they don't agree with the amount/timing of vaccines either. Speak to any naturopathic DOCTOR or chiropractor, and you will get the same answer. Do I think a large part of the increase in vaccines is due to money? Absolutely. Why do they keep getting the same vaccines when they can check and see if they are actually needed by checking titres? It's money in "the entire medical community's" pockets.
To say that her DH is SOOOOOO wrong is out of line, IMO. Who are you to tell a father that his beliefs are wrong?
Nothing is 100% in this world so although she's vaccinated I still wouldn't want her sitting next to some kid yacking his head off with whooping cough because they parents "know their kid better" and didn't properly vaccinate them.
You can believe what you want but I'm sorry, at the end of the day that father and mother are sitting there fully vaccinated and protected against illness while their child is on his own and vulnerable so yeah, I think he's wrong.
To each his own but I don't agree and I'm not going back and forth on this topic because it never gets anyone anywhere. It's an age old debate and a waste of time. My position plain and simple is, vaccinate your kid. That's all I have to say.
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by Hofstra26
Nothing is 100% in this world so although she's vaccinated I still wouldn't want her sitting next to some kid yacking his head off with whooping cough because they parents "know their kid better" and didn't properly vaccinate them.
You can believe what you want but I'm sorry, at the end of the day that father and mother are sitting there fully vaccinated and protected against illness while their child is on his own and vulnerable so yeah, I think he's wrong.
To each his own but I don't agree and I'm not going back and forth on this topic because it never gets anyone anywhere. It's an age old debate and a waste of time. My position plain and simple is, vaccinate your kid. That's all I have to say.
I love how the "I know my child" argument is thrown around on very serious issues.
Yes "I know my child" makes sense when transitioning to a sippy or if poop is a strange color... but I don't think anyone knows the intricacies of their child's immune system well enough to disregard decades of medical research.
I trust the CDC and AAP when they publish a schedule on vaccinations. Is there a chance that there is some kind of warped corruption going on where the drug companies are paying off these two organizations to put more money in their pockets at the expense of babies.. maybe. But I'd like to think that this would be too big of a scandal to keep hush-hush for years.
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by speakthetruth
Vaccines = mostly profit $$$, politics, drug industry having too much control on gov't, lobbyists.....
yes, some are beneficial
yes, some were created to cure and prevent
but if anyone thinks all vaccines are made out of love and care, they are probably mistaken.
the fact that you can get a flu shot at any CVS is alarming.
the fact that there are, what, 16 more vaccines now than there were when I was a kid is scary.
i'm not anti-vaccine, but my child hasn't had all...and he is on a slower schedule.
it's ironic...we won't give them sugar at bedtime, but we are so quick to listen to docs to vaccine our kids with chemicals based on some "schedule." I see what one ice cream cone does to him based on his size..I dread thinking of his little body being vaccinated with foreign substances.
i'm all for everyone's own personal beliefs on this, but I wish people wouldn't always just assume that the guy in the white lab coat knows best.
In 1980, when I was born, there were 15 required vaccines.
Now there are 36. THIRTY-SIX!! Have we eradicated so many more diseases in the past thirty years that we need to TRIPLE the number of shots children get? Yes, I believe that children should be immunized, but IMO I think the current shot schedule is a little absurd.
To the OP - you and your DH need to do some research before making a call about vaccines. A PP said that it's irresponsible not to immunize. I think it's irresponsible not to be an educated consumer.
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maymama
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
I don't know  it scares me sometimes but the benefits 100% outweigh the risks...
The likelihood that a vaccination would cause the disease being vaccinated against is miniscule in comparison to the risk you put your child at if you do not vaccinate and they are exposed to another child with say measles, whooping cough, hepatitis etc.
and can your child even attend public school if they are not vaccinated?
just curious, was your husband given all childhood vaccines? does he get vaccines now? (flu, tetanus etc?) just curious on his school of thought.
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Sassyz75
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
And in the 1950s there were 4 or 5 vaccines. So does that mean science and medical research has improved or that the medical establishment is money hungry and needlessly vaccinating our children?
This distrust of the medical community is nothing new. It has been around since the polio vaccine was created.
I think it is a fine line we walk as parents. It is very scary.
As i said i delay vaccinations and only do 1 per month. However, to not vaccinate at all or very limited where you are relying on the "heard" to protect your child while not participating in it. Well, that raises my hackles.
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Lucky
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by carolyns4cupcakes
Posted by Lucky
I have a friend who does not vaccinate her children. I worry for them.
II have a cousin who doesn't vaccinate her children either. They are 9 and 7. They go to Waldorf school. They are healthy kids and extremely bright.
It was nuts to us at first but we are so used to it now.
They live a totally different lifestyle (vegans, no tv, etc) and she is doing an excellent job!
Similar situation only her children are younger (3.5 years old and 21 months old). Her kids are very healthy. They are pretty much 100% green (as best that the family can be) and eat a raw food diet. Her children have never had dairy or meat. The children were raise on Brazil nut milk that they made themselves.
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maymama
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by speakthetruth
the fact that you can get a flu shot at any CVS is alarming.
the fact that there are, what, 16 more vaccines now than there were when I was a kid is scary.
i do not agree with this. i cannot even count 16 vaccines that i was given or that my son will receive?
and as far as CVS, this is more for people who perhaps cannot afford copays or cannot get to their doctors office on a 9-5 schedule or who might want to "drop in" for the vaccine without an appointment. i dont think there is anything wrong with a pharmacist giving flu vaccines. doesnt take much training. heck, i injected myself 1-3 times a day my entire pregnancy and I recieved NO training.
i think that making vaccines more accessible is for the better. preventing less people from getting sick will prevent less people from being exposed which will drastically lessen the scope of the illness. the flu can kill!
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GioiaMia
Let's Go Rangers!
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
You and DH should make an appointment with a pediatrician and discuss this as well as do your own research from reputable sources, not LIF or Google 
I know my child will be full vaccinated AND I also know that she will NOT be permitted to be around any children who are NOT fully vaccinated as long as I have control over that! God help me if she gets sick b/c someone else chose not to vaccinate.
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| Posted 1/24/11 8:44 AM |
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maymama
my little loves
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by Sassyz75
And in the 1950s there were 4 or 5 vaccines. So does that mean science and medical research has improved or that the medical establishment is money hungry and needlessly vaccinating our children?
in the 1950's, what did we know of cancer and the dangers of cigarette smoke? how long was the human life expectancy? i think its safe to say that medicine has vastly evolved since then
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| Posted 1/24/11 8:44 AM |
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labonnevie
sometimes 1+1= 4 <3
Member since 8/09 3869 total posts
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the lucky one
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by Sassyz75
And in the 1950s there were 4 or 5 vaccines. So does that mean science and medical research has improved or that the medical establishment is money hungry and needlessly vaccinating our children?
This distrust of the medical community is nothing new. It has been around since the polio vaccine was created.
I think it is a fine line we walk as parents. It is very scary.
As i said i delay vaccinations and only do 1 per month. However, to not vaccinate at all or very limited where you are relying on the "heard" to protect your child while not participating in it. Well, that raises my hackles.
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| Posted 1/24/11 8:47 AM |
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melbalalala
Little Lady
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Re: No vaccinations at all???
Posted by maymama
Posted by speakthetruth
the fact that you can get a flu shot at any CVS is alarming.
the fact that there are, what, 16 more vaccines now than there were when I was a kid is scary.
i do not agree with this. i cannot even count 16 vaccines that i was given or that my son will receive?
and as far as CVS, this is more for people who perhaps cannot afford copays or cannot get to their doctors office on a 9-5 schedule or who might want to "drop in" for the vaccine without an appointment. i dont think there is anything wrong with a pharmacist giving flu vaccines. doesnt take much training. heck, i injected myself 1-3 times a day my entire pregnancy and I recieved NO training.
i think that making vaccines more accessible is for the better. preventing less people from getting sick will prevent less people from being exposed which will drastically lessen the scope of the illness. the flu can kill!
I missed the CVS comment the first time around  I'm not sure what's so alarming? I think it proves that the flu vaccine is so benign and so beneficial that it is offered to the masses easily and cheaply and can be administered by someone without a medical degree.
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