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Mrs213
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Anyone else sick of the parties?
Why cant we just vote for people and their polices?
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Posted 11/4/21 9:22 PM  |
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Raging2020
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Re: Anyone else sick of the parties?
Me. I’m disgusted by all of them. Majority of politicians are puppets for them.
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| Posted 11/5/21 5:36 AM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Anyone else sick of the parties?
Many of the Founding Fathers didn't want parties...
https://www.history.com/news/founding-fathers-political-parties-opinion
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The framers of the new Constitution desperately wanted to avoid the divisions that had ripped England apart in the bloody civil wars of the 17th century. Many of them saw parties—or “factions,” as they called them—as corrupt relics of the monarchical British system that they wanted to discard in favor of a truly democratic government.
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Alexander Hamilton once called political parties “the most fatal disease” of popular governments. James Madison, who worked with Hamilton to defend the new Constitution to the public in the Federalist Papers, wrote in Federalist 10 that one of the functions of a “well-constructed Union” should be “its tendency to break and control the violence of faction.”
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When Washington stepped aside as president in 1796, he memorably warned in his farewell address of the divisive influence of factions on the workings of democracy: “The common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.”
“He had stayed on for a second term only to keep these two parties from warring with each other,” Randall says of Washington. “He was afraid of what he called ‘disunion.’ That if the parties flourished, and they kept fighting each other, that the Union would break up.”
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While the Federalists would never win another presidential election, and disappeared for good after the War of 1812, the two-party system revived itself with the rise of Andrew Jackson’s Democratic Party by the 1830s and firmly solidified in the 1850s, after the founding of the Republican Party. Though the parties’ identities and regional identifications would shift greatly over time, the two-party system we know today had fallen into place by 1860—even as the nation stood poised on the brink of the very civil war that Washington and the other Founding Fathers had desperately wanted to avoid.
I've never been a fan of the two party system. Representatives aren't "allowed" to vote how they or their constituents want them to vote. They pretty much have to follow party lines.
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| Posted 11/5/21 6:49 AM |
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Naturalmama
Love my boys!!
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Christine
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Anyone else sick of the parties?
Done with both parties. We need a complete overhaul of the election process in this country.
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| Posted 11/5/21 6:53 AM |
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| Posted 11/5/21 8:19 AM |
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CookiePuss
Cake from Outer Space!
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Re: Anyone else sick of the parties?
I would love to see the abolishment of lobbies, PACs, the fundraisings, multimillion dollar campaign budgets.
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| Posted 11/5/21 8:34 AM |
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klingklang77
kraftwerk!
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Re: Anyone else sick of the parties?
I would like to see the two party system end and more of a parliamentary system.
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| Posted 11/5/21 8:47 AM |
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LSP2005
Bunny kisses are so cute!
Member since 5/05 19453 total posts
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Re: Anyone else sick of the parties?
Yeah, I am really disillusioned with politics.
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| Posted 11/5/21 2:25 PM |
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KarenK122
The Journey is the Destination
Member since 5/05 4430 total posts
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Karen
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Anyone else sick of the parties?
Me!!!
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| Posted 11/5/21 3:00 PM |
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blu6385
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Re: Anyone else sick of the parties?
Me I say it all the time!!!
100% Believe political parties is what’s so wrong with this country right now.
Most people can’t just look at a topic and not judge it by what political party brought it up and what their party sides for. It’s beyond ridiculous.
Then on top of parties you have all these other terms that I never follow nor understand lol leftist right conservative etc. WTF do we need all those for also??!!!!
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| Posted 11/6/21 12:06 AM |
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