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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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"But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. "
AB.SO.LU.TELY.
I’ve definitely fallen into a hoarding space.
I’m not a crazy hoarder lol but it’s changed how I shop.
I agree that I think this whole thing has negatively affected me the most. Not my kids and not my husband. That is not to say that they did not nor have not experienced adverse affects.
Like Hofstra said later in this post - I am never alone and have not been alone since 2019 unless you consider my commute.
Your kids don't go to school? Your husband doesn't go to work?
What do those questions have to do with anything I posted about?
ETA: My kids go to school and my husband works.
"I am never alone and have not been alone since 2019 unless you consider my commute."
If you are working out of the house and then coming home to others, then this is totally different than what Hofstra has said. She had to deal with them all in her face for FOUR months out of school. Not years like most people. 7 hours a day while working parents don't have much "me" time. Yes, if you have a longer commute and maybe lunch.
We were both talking about losing time that we had to ourselves and how that has been a negative for us; not comparing the situation that caused it.
I don't know why you have such a hard @n for Hofstra and need to constantly criticize her for her situation instead of showing some empathy or just leaving it be.
My neighbor - a SAHM and I commiserate. She hasn't been alone because her husband has not been traveling for work. Her feelings are not any less then mine because I work out of the house and she does not. She may have had it even worse since she was dealing with the kids at home and I got a break from them by leaving for work.
I am not sure when you have lost time to yourself then if your schedule has stayed the same?
Where did I say that my schedule stayed the same?
Guess I just thought since you said you got to have a break by leaving for work and your only free time was commuting. 
Although I hate to continue quoting since I’m quoting so much and it’s really none of your business so I don’t know what is possessing me to answer you but I work a lot more in the pandemic than I did pre-pandemic. The only thing you can really gather from somebody saying their only free time is their commute is that they are commuting to someplace other than their house. Otherwise you’re just making assumptions. I’ve added to the derailment of this post enough so with this I am done
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How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
This pandemic has SUCKED. Why does ANYONE want to play the game of who had it worse? It's not productive and everyone's definition of a bad situation is different depending on their life experiences.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Naturalmama
This pandemic has SUCKED. Why does ANYONE want to play the game of who had it worse? It's not productive and everyone's definition of a bad situation is different depending on their life experiences.
 Exactly!! ITA.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Naturalmama
This pandemic has SUCKED. Why does ANYONE want to play the game of who had it worse? It's not productive and everyone's definition of a bad situation is different depending on their life experiences.
Who is saying that? I am simply stating that some people really don't know how good they have it and had it during a time which was really bad for many. They need to take a step back. Probably because many don't have a clue as even minor set backs can upset their lifestyle.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Naturalmama
This pandemic has SUCKED. Why does ANYONE want to play the game of who had it worse? It's not productive and everyone's definition of a bad situation is different depending on their life experiences.
This. Everyone had it bad in some form or another. I was alone for months with no actual human contact except for supermarket cashiers and walks with friends in the dead of winter. SO had to move to a different part of the state because IT in person was not needed at the company he was contracted out to here in Munich and he had to move to school systems two hours away.
EVERYONE had it bad.
Although, I do have to say I enjoyed the solitude and cleaned out and threw out half of my possessions.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Naturalmama
This pandemic has SUCKED. Why does ANYONE want to play the game of who had it worse? It's not productive and everyone's definition of a bad situation is different depending on their life experiences.
It’s dumb but I do feel it’s the opposite. People trying to dismiss the fact that many many children are suffering from this pandemic. It’s not only the poor as well. The majority of children have been effected.
I feel like people want to ignore this fact.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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Posted by Naturalmama
This pandemic has SUCKED. Why does ANYONE want to play the game of who had it worse? It's not productive and everyone's definition of a bad situation is different depending on their life experiences.
It’s dumb but I do feel it’s the opposite. People trying to dismiss the fact that many many children are suffering from this pandemic. It’s not only the poor as well. The majority of children have been effected.
I feel like people want to ignore this fact.
I wouldn't say people are dismissing it per se. I think it is more of a cyclical thing. There is a really interesting generational theory by Neil Howe and William Strass that talks about how there are "turnings" about every 80 years. Some people say it's a little hokey, but it's still interesting.
Here's the link if you want to go down a rabbit hole: Link
The last turning was World War 2 and the one before that was the Civil War.
It sucks for the kids now, but something always defines a generation and hopefully they will go on to do their own greatness.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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Posted by Naturalmama
This pandemic has SUCKED. Why does ANYONE want to play the game of who had it worse? It's not productive and everyone's definition of a bad situation is different depending on their life experiences.
It’s dumb but I do feel it’s the opposite. People trying to dismiss the fact that many many children are suffering from this pandemic. It’s not only the poor as well. The majority of children have been effected.
I feel like people want to ignore this fact.
I don't think most on here are being dismissive at all. I do feel that it's important to acknowledge that everyone felt the effects of the pandemic differently. Some adults and children dealt with short term effects, some are dealing with longer term effects and I'm sure there are some who might argue they have been fine throughout. Obviously this was something that 99% of us have never experienced and we all had to find our own way of fumbling through it.
Again, it's certainly not a competition of "who did the pandemic better" and I think to argue over anyone else's experience simply because it's not as bad as someone else's is ridiculous. Pandemic aside, we ALL go through our own cr@p in life, just because someone might have it worse doesn't mitigate whatever trauma or issues a person is dealing with.
I do think most of us understand this, the one(s) that doesn't just enjoys stirring up an argument.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by Naturalmama
This pandemic has SUCKED. Why does ANYONE want to play the game of who had it worse? It's not productive and everyone's definition of a bad situation is different depending on their life experiences.
It’s dumb but I do feel it’s the opposite. People trying to dismiss the fact that many many children are suffering from this pandemic. It’s not only the poor as well. The majority of children have been effected.
I feel like people want to ignore this fact.
I don't think most on here are being dismissive at all. I do feel that it's important to acknowledge that everyone felt the effects of the pandemic differently. Some adults and children dealt with short term effects, some are dealing with longer term effects and I'm sure there are some who might argue they have been fine throughout. Obviously this was something that 99% of us have never experienced and we all had to find our own way of fumbling through it.
Again, it's certainly not a competition of "who did the pandemic better" and I think to argue over anyone else's experience simply because it's not as bad as someone else's is ridiculous. Pandemic aside, we ALL go through our own cr@p in life, just because someone might have it worse doesn't mitigate whatever trauma or issues a person is dealing with.
I do think most of us understand this, the one(s) that doesn't just enjoys stirring up an argument.
No one, at least IMO is trying to stir up an argument. We all have had different experiences, for sure. I guess maybe more eye rolling and less posting (as many do on the side) would be better.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Oh my gosh, I think this thread itself is evidence that we are all not ok 
Seriously though, it's completely impossible for anyone to say that any kid or adult has gone through the past two years without having been impacted in some way negatively. It doesn't mean we won't all bounce back at some point but I think it's foolish to think that living through a pandemic in this day and age can leave anyone unscathed. Last year my kids were fully in school, remote, hybrid - all at different periods of time. The last two months of school were fully, every day back in school. I was so happy and relieved that my kids seemed fine! They ended the school year having really done fantastic - academically and thriving in all they did. Then this year when things were so much more normal and THAT's actually when I started to see cracks. My elementary age child is mostly fine in all ways honestly but ofcourse there are "cracks." That said... Not looking to start any more drama but I do think it's way easier for elementary kids to bounce back and even if they don't they have YEARS before it will impact their future or even be a significant memory. My other child is where I see the most cracks in HS having missed out on the developmental years of MS almost entirely - academically, socially, etc. Doing Algebra 2 after missing 1/3 of Algebra 1, taking an AP science in a class you never took regents level... going from the hand holding of the remote environment/MS to full blown HS with NO CONCESSIONS as if none of the pandemic ever happened. No developmental progression or foundational progression and yet the expectations are still the same. I think our district did a super ****** job of helping these kids rebound and go back to being successful. We had to be super cautious last year because of a family reason and so we didn't do any indoor sports well, when it's time to try out for JV/V without having really played in over a year...it doesn't always go so well. And then think about going right from 12 to 14 socially...At the end of the day, my child is doing remarkably well considering and will be OK but I definitely see the impact now and was foolish to think there could possibly be none. Even those who say there are none because your child is homeschooled - how could that be? Would they have been in school if not for the pandemic? If yes, then of course they are impacted! If no, then I'm sure whatever socialization you do is impacted somehow. I myself have been impacted SO much. The anxiety is terrible. Also, I think the pandemic brought out the true colors of many which has led me to see people in an entirely different way...I think we probably won't fully know the impact on our kids or ourselves for years to come...
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Naturalmama
This pandemic has SUCKED. Why does ANYONE want to play the game of who had it worse? It's not productive and everyone's definition of a bad situation is different depending on their life experiences.
I will never understand why people have pissing contests to figure out who has had things worse. Seems extremely counterproductive. What kind of prize do you get if you win? Acknowledgement that your life sucks?
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Sash
Posted by Naturalmama
This pandemic has SUCKED. Why does ANYONE want to play the game of who had it worse? It's not productive and everyone's definition of a bad situation is different depending on their life experiences.
It’s dumb but I do feel it’s the opposite. People trying to dismiss the fact that many many children are suffering from this pandemic. It’s not only the poor as well. The majority of children have been effected.
I feel like people want to ignore this fact.
I don't think what you are saying is dumb. I'm sorry if I made you feel like that. I should have been more clear that I was only speaking for my children. And to be honest- covid may not have affected them but they may have issues due to other things. My kids certainly don't lead perfect lives, I just know for them specifically, they seem to not be afraid of COVID, and are back to enjoying school and activities. Doesn't mean everyone's child is experiencing that and I'm truly sorry if I gave off that impression. 
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by itsbabytime
Oh my gosh, I think this thread itself is evidence that we are all not ok
Seriously though, it's completely impossible for anyone to say that any kid or adult has gone through the past two years without having been impacted in some way negatively. It doesn't mean we won't all bounce back at some point but I think it's foolish to think that living through a pandemic in this day and age can leave anyone unscathed. Last year my kids were fully in school, remote, hybrid - all at different periods of time. The last two months of school were fully, every day back in school. I was so happy and relieved that my kids seemed fine! They ended the school year having really done fantastic - academically and thriving in all they did. Then this year when things were so much more normal and THAT's actually when I started to see cracks. My elementary age child is mostly fine in all ways honestly but ofcourse there are "cracks." That said... Not looking to start any more drama but I do think it's way easier for elementary kids to bounce back and even if they don't they have YEARS before it will impact their future or even be a significant memory. My other child is where I see the most cracks in HS having missed out on the developmental years of MS almost entirely - academically, socially, etc. Doing Algebra 2 after missing 1/3 of Algebra 1, taking an AP science in a class you never took regents level... going from the hand holding of the remote environment/MS to full blown HS with NO CONCESSIONS as if none of the pandemic ever happened. No developmental progression or foundational progression and yet the expectations are still the same. I think our district did a super ****** job of helping these kids rebound and go back to being successful. We had to be super cautious last year because of a family reason and so we didn't do any indoor sports well, when it's time to try out for JV/V without having really played in over a year...it doesn't always go so well. And then think about going right from 12 to 14 socially...At the end of the day, my child is doing remarkably well considering and will be OK but I definitely see the impact now and was foolish to think there could possibly be none. Even those who say there are none because your child is homeschooled - how could that be? Would they have been in school if not for the pandemic? If yes, then of course they are impacted! If no, then I'm sure whatever socialization you do is impacted somehow. I myself have been impacted SO much. The anxiety is terrible. Also, I think the pandemic brought out the true colors of many which has led me to see people in an entirely different way...I think we probably won't fully know the impact on our kids or ourselves for years to come...
100% agree
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Naturalmama
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Posted by Naturalmama
This pandemic has SUCKED. Why does ANYONE want to play the game of who had it worse? It's not productive and everyone's definition of a bad situation is different depending on their life experiences.
It’s dumb but I do feel it’s the opposite. People trying to dismiss the fact that many many children are suffering from this pandemic. It’s not only the poor as well. The majority of children have been effected.
I feel like people want to ignore this fact.
I don't think what you are saying is dumb. I'm sorry if I made you feel like that. I should have been more clear that I was only speaking for my children. And to be honest- covid may not have affected them but they may have issues due to other things. My kids certainly don't lead perfect lives, I just know for them specifically, they seem to not be afraid of COVID, and are back to enjoying school and activities. Doesn't mean everyone's child is experiencing that and I'm truly sorry if I gave off that impression.
Thank you for this! However, let me clarify as I type too fast and hit the post button too soon. I meant to agree with you and feel the pissing contest is dumb. I quoted you because I agreed with you but felt that there was a a second contest of how less effected peoples kids were. Either way, it’s odd to me. Lol. I don’t think in anyway you did this. My comments were not directed at you specifically. No need for apologies, I appreciate you.
I do feel there were several comments on here that were dismissing the fact that the majority of kids are going through or did go through a rough time or have been impacted psychologically. I won’t got into specific comments because it will not go anywhere.
I can easily say my son was great, never scared, 2020 wasn’t a bad year for him. I thought he was fine, fast fwd a year and half later and he’s not. There is a residual effect and a long term impact. And it has nothing to do with a fear of the virus, or wearing masks or not being able to travel. To me that’s actually surface factors. There is a deeper level that I didn’t even notice till these past few months. So just keep an eye out on your kids. Everything may seem fine till it’s not.
His social studies teacher who was awesome even left teaching this year to work in a restaurant. My DH saw him at the supermarket. The teacher said the remote learning and cancelling activities was horrible for the kids. He said teaching wasn’t the same and it was a struggle. It wasn’t what he signed up for and felt to bad. He told my DH that the kids suffered greatly and it wasn’t right. He couldn’t do it anymore. Sad because not only are kids suffering but now they lose good teachers. I’m sure there are more stories where great teachers are leaving/left. My cousin also left teaching this year as well for similar reasons. It’s sad.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by itsbabytime
Oh my gosh, I think this thread itself is evidence that we are all not ok
Seriously though, it's completely impossible for anyone to say that any kid or adult has gone through the past two years without having been impacted in some way negatively. It doesn't mean we won't all bounce back at some point but I think it's foolish to think that living through a pandemic in this day and age can leave anyone unscathed. Last year my kids were fully in school, remote, hybrid - all at different periods of time. The last two months of school were fully, every day back in school. I was so happy and relieved that my kids seemed fine! They ended the school year having really done fantastic - academically and thriving in all they did. Then this year when things were so much more normal and THAT's actually when I started to see cracks. My elementary age child is mostly fine in all ways honestly but ofcourse there are "cracks." That said... Not looking to start any more drama but I do think it's way easier for elementary kids to bounce back and even if they don't they have YEARS before it will impact their future or even be a significant memory. My other child is where I see the most cracks in HS having missed out on the developmental years of MS almost entirely - academically, socially, etc. Doing Algebra 2 after missing 1/3 of Algebra 1, taking an AP science in a class you never took regents level... going from the hand holding of the remote environment/MS to full blown HS with NO CONCESSIONS as if none of the pandemic ever happened. No developmental progression or foundational progression and yet the expectations are still the same. I think our district did a super ****** job of helping these kids rebound and go back to being successful. We had to be super cautious last year because of a family reason and so we didn't do any indoor sports well, when it's time to try out for JV/V without having really played in over a year...it doesn't always go so well. And then think about going right from 12 to 14 socially...At the end of the day, my child is doing remarkably well considering and will be OK but I definitely see the impact now and was foolish to think there could possibly be none. Even those who say there are none because your child is homeschooled - how could that be? Would they have been in school if not for the pandemic? If yes, then of course they are impacted! If no, then I'm sure whatever socialization you do is impacted somehow. I myself have been impacted SO much. The anxiety is terrible. Also, I think the pandemic brought out the true colors of many which has led me to see people in an entirely different way...I think we probably won't fully know the impact on our kids or ourselves for years to come...
I just posted a similar but shorter version of my son. My niece is also having issues and is in HS.
Agree with this 1000%
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
We moved to FL in March, the older kids (middle school) were remote for a year while my youngest was home. The older kids had to bust their asses w tutors (and me!) to catch up to these kids. Sports , these FL kids are made of steel. They play all year long outside, we are veal cutlets compared to these people. More catching up. Socially my older 2 are good now, My youngest is in K and I’m thinking of holding him back. Socially and with reading he is behind. Math he’s ahead. Sports he’s just now beginning to catch up. We had Covid 2 weeks ago (from school) and we got through it. FL has its negatives too but fir now everything is working out . When we moved here, I enrolled the kids and the person HUFFED when I told her the kids have been remote. It’s an issue . No masks in the schools this year . NY kids are sharp I think academically they will all catch up.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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I think the kids are more affected by their parents reaction to the pandemic, mask mandates and virtual learning.
The more parents rant and rave about the situation, the more kids get stressed out.
Funny I find the kids who parents run around double masking, not socializing and fearful are the ones who are stressed out and afraid.
DD has a friend who lives in an apartment complex and who to THIS day won't go to the playground area there Because she says it's "full of covid"
Who do you think put that nonsense in her head at the beginning of the pandemic?
My daughter isn't stressed out at all, isn't afraid, because we aren't
She hates wearing a mask because she knows it's useless, like we do. Not because we "rant about it".
She hates virtual learning because it sucks ass and she learns nothing and it's NOT normal.
Any kid who thinks it is....well THEY are the issue and I feel bad that they were never taught this is NOT ok.
I agree with all of this
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Everything is pretty much normal yet children of Paterson, Nj just returned to school. Basically they were remote for 3 weeks.I’m sure the kids are fine with remote, 2 years after the pandemic started. It won’t impact them at all.
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